Now, I'm not a big fan of football and don't really know the politics, but I do have a vague interest when England are in the world cup. What I don't understand is why we have an Italian manager. Does a manager make that much of a difference to how the team plays? If so, then if England win, in my opinion it's more of a victory for an Italian bloke and his team of English employees than a victory for England. If the manager isn't that important, then why the hell have we not got an English man or woman that can do the job?
Unfortunately the lack of good English managers can be attributed to the fact that the Premier league is now on a world stage.
This man made the difference at whatever club he was at. The manager is the sometimes the final piece of the jigsaw and no different to the National team. Whether the current manager can deliver we shall see, but there are not any great English managers out there. That is why the FA decided to go for a foreign coach as all the English ones had been rubbish. Yes the manager can make a big difference.
I'm a bit like you on the footie front, but take more interest in Rugby Union - I have no interest in the Andrex premiership (very soft, but ludicrously over priced), but watch a few internationals. But I'd agree with Kenty, the manager makes a huge difference and some people are good at it, others aren't. It is a shame that we can't find en Englishman to do the job, but there you go. Soccer, increasingly is less about teams and nations now, more about corporates branding and TV rights - just in the nature of things really given the increased globalisation in all things.
I think that we should have an English manager for the National Team - and I even think that all non-UK players should be banned from the English league too, but that will not make me popular! Plim :sad:
Quote by Plimboy I think that we should have an English manager for the National Team - and I even think that all non-UK players should be banned from the English league too, but that will not make me popular! Plim :sad:
The other problem is that the people who run the game have never appointed the best English managers just the ones that fall into what they think is best. There are some very good English managers in the game but would not want the job because of the Old Farts in charge,
The other problem is that the people who run the game have never appointed the best English managers just the ones that fall into what they think is best. There are some very good English managers in the game but would not want the job because of the Old Farts in charge,
Quote by croydoncouple38 The other problem is that the people who run the game have never appointed the best English managers just the ones that fall into what they think is best. There are some very good English managers in the game but would not want the job because of the Old Farts in charge,
Can't disagree with that - if Capello does as well as Sir Bobby did in 1990 no doubt the buffoons will hail him as some continental mastermind.
Quote by easyrider_xxx I'm a bit like you on the footie front, but take more interest in Rugby Union - I have no interest in the Andrex premiership (very soft, but ludicrously over priced), but watch a few internationals. But I'd agree with Kenty, the manager makes a huge difference and some people are good at it, others aren't. It is a shame that we can't find en Englishman to do the job, but there you go. Soccer, increasingly is less about teams and nations now, more about corporates branding and TV rights - just in the nature of things really given the increased globalisation in all things.
It's FOOTBALL. There is American Football, Rugby Football and probably others. What is being played in South Africa is FOOTBALL. That fact the US can't cope with that idea is neither here nor there. And don't get me started on what the f*** is British English!!!!!!!
Quote by foxylady2209 I'm a bit like you on the footie front, but take more interest in Rugby Union - I have no interest in the Andrex premiership (very soft, but ludicrously over priced), but watch a few internationals. But I'd agree with Kenty, the manager makes a huge difference and some people are good at it, others aren't. It is a shame that we can't find en Englishman to do the job, but there you go. Soccer, increasingly is less about teams and nations now, more about corporates branding and TV rights - just in the nature of things really given the increased globalisation in all things.
It's FOOTBALL. There is American Football, Rugby Football and probably others. What is being played in South Africa is FOOTBALL. That fact the US can't cope with that idea is neither here nor there. And don't get me started on what the f*** is British English!!!!!!! It's actually Association Football - when I was a lad this was always abbreviated to Soccer, as opposed to Rugger (for Rugby Union Football). So as far as I'm concerned, soccer is a valid english abbreviation, which I use constantly to differentiate the softy namby pamby stuff from proper football, or rugger. The fact that the US has also adopted the abbreviation soccer, to differentiate it from their version of proper football (a lot like rugger, but with loads of protective equipment and a good rest every time they advance 10 yards), bothers me not one jot. Get your etymology straight ! :P
Quote by easyrider_xxx I'm a bit like you on the footie front, but take more interest in Rugby Union - I have no interest in the Andrex premiership (very soft, but ludicrously over priced), but watch a few internationals. But I'd agree with Kenty, the manager makes a huge difference and some people are good at it, others aren't. It is a shame that we can't find en Englishman to do the job, but there you go. Soccer, increasingly is less about teams and nations now, more about corporates branding and TV rights - just in the nature of things really given the increased globalisation in all things.
It's FOOTBALL. There is American Football, Rugby Football and probably others. What is being played in South Africa is FOOTBALL. That fact the US can't cope with that idea is neither here nor there. And don't get me started on what the f*** is British English!!!!!!! It's actually Association Football - when I was a lad this was always abbreviated to Soccer, as opposed to Rugger (for Rugby Union Football). So as far as I'm concerned, soccer is a valid english abbreviation, which I use constantly to differentiate the softy namby pamby stuff from proper football, or rugger. The fact that the US has also adopted the abbreviation soccer, to differentiate it from their version of proper football (a lot like rugger, but with loads of protective equipment and a good rest every time they advance 10 yards), bothers me not one jot. Get your etymology straight ! :P Excellent etymology - thanks. :thumbup: (I still hate it being called anything but football and Rugger is a stupid word which betrays its public schoolboy origin horribly) But that's just me.
Quote by foxylady2209 I'm a bit like you on the footie front, but take more interest in Rugby Union - I have no interest in the Andrex premiership (very soft, but ludicrously over priced), but watch a few internationals. But I'd agree with Kenty, the manager makes a huge difference and some people are good at it, others aren't. It is a shame that we can't find en Englishman to do the job, but there you go. Soccer, increasingly is less about teams and nations now, more about corporates branding and TV rights - just in the nature of things really given the increased globalisation in all things.
It's FOOTBALL. There is American Football, Rugby Football and probably others. What is being played in South Africa is FOOTBALL. That fact the US can't cope with that idea is neither here nor there. And don't get me started on what the f*** is British English!!!!!!! It's soccer. Shouting doesn't chamge that.
Quote by easyrider_xxx It's actually Association Football - when I was a lad this was always abbreviated to Soccer, as opposed to Rugger (for Rugby Union Football).
If Rugby Union Football was shortened to Rugger, why was Association Football shortened to Soccer instead of Asser................:doh: Now I see why Dave_Notts
Quote by foxylady2209 I'm a bit like you on the footie front, but take more interest in Rugby Union - I have no interest in the Andrex premiership (very soft, but ludicrously over priced), but watch a few internationals. But I'd agree with Kenty, the manager makes a huge difference and some people are good at it, others aren't. It is a shame that we can't find en Englishman to do the job, but there you go. Soccer, increasingly is less about teams and nations now, more about corporates branding and TV rights - just in the nature of things really given the increased globalisation in all things.
It's FOOTBALL. There is American Football, Rugby Football and probably others. What is being played in South Africa is FOOTBALL. That fact the US can't cope with that idea is neither here nor there. And don't get me started on what the f*** is British English!!!!!!! It's association football. Or soccer. The difference between soccer and rugby, or gaelic, or Aussie Rules, is just which bunch of public schoolboys dreamed the rules up. The early laws of the game allowed all players to claim a mark by catching the ball. It looked a lot more like Aussie Rules than modern socer. It's called football because it's played on foot, not on horseback like polo.
thanks for the elaboration - I understand that the origins are in tribal contests concerning the possession and transportation by hand and on foot, of a partially inflated pigs bladder, from one place to another. plus ca change
Only just came back to not looking at the old days as who finished 4th in the premiership with a little fancied team .Now he should have been England manager years ago but the suits don`t like him.
Quote by Happy_Bunny Ball is kicked with foot hence the word " football"....simples.
Does that mean Thierry Henry calls it Handball ?? Oooh, don't get the Irish started again . . . I do not know what he would call it, but I know what I would call it...........cheating gits game. :lol:
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