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2nd Jul 2009 - 10:43pm
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There`s been some stuff said on here about equality and shit icon_rolleyes.gif


So .... I just want to ask ...

If you were in a situation where it was VERY important to be first ....and some guy says

"Women and children first"

Would you ....as a woman say ..."No... it`s ok ..that guy was in front of me"

Or ...as a man ...would you say ...

"Fuck that ! I`m a new man ...it`s everybody for themselves !! "

I`d probably act like a perfect gentleman and let the women go first !! icon_rolleyes.gif Fuckin schmuck !! icon_rolleyes.gif

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 10:45pm
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Women WITH children first... then an orderly queue. icon_wink.gif

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 10:46pm
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I'd say men with a cute ass before me!! icon_wink.gif

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 10:47pm
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Dirtygirly wrote:

Women WITH children first... then an orderly queue. icon_wink.gif


Oh yeah ... the men with children join the queue after you then !!! icon_rolleyes.gif

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 10:47pm
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While they were discussing it I'd already be in the life-boat. LOL

Seriously - it would be 'everyone grab a child' and get them safe. Then an orderly queue.

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 11:08pm
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foxylady2209 wrote:

While they were discussing it I'd already be in the life-boat. LOL

Seriously - it would be 'everyone grab a child' and get them safe. Then an orderly queue.


Yeah that's what I meant! icon_wink.gif

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 11:10pm
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Dirtygirly wrote:

foxylady2209 wrote:

While they were discussing it I'd already be in the life-boat. LOL

Seriously - it would be 'everyone grab a child' and get them safe. Then an orderly queue.


Yeah that's what I meant! icon_wink.gif


Not what ya said tho !!! icon_wink.gif

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2nd Jul 2009 - 11:32pm
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flower411 wrote:

There`s been some stuff said on here about equality and shit icon_rolleyes.gif


So .... I just want to ask ...

If you were in a situation where it was VERY important to be first ....and some guy says

"Women and children first"

Would you ....as a woman say ..."No... it`s ok ..that guy was in front of me"

Or ...as a man ...would you say ...

"Fuck that ! I`m a new man ...it`s everybody for themselves !! "

I`d probably act like a perfect gentleman and let the women go first !! icon_rolleyes.gif Fuckin schmuck !! icon_rolleyes.gif


Do you want the serious answer, as in you're on a plane that has crashed/gone up in flames?

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2nd Jul 2009 - 11:34pm
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meat2pleaseu wrote:

flower411 wrote:

There`s been some stuff said on here about equality and shit icon_rolleyes.gif


So .... I just want to ask ...

If you were in a situation where it was VERY important to be first ....and some guy says

"Women and children first"

Would you ....as a woman say ..."No... it`s ok ..that guy was in front of me"

Or ...as a man ...would you say ...

"Fuck that ! I`m a new man ...it`s everybody for themselves !! "

I`d probably act like a perfect gentleman and let the women go first !! icon_rolleyes.gif Fuckin schmuck !! icon_rolleyes.gif


Do you want the serious answer, as in you're on a plane that has crashed/gone up in flames?


Exactly !!! I`m hearing a lot of feminist talk in this forum and I want to know !!!

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 11:36pm
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It's not about feminism... well not for me. It's just about being decent. The children would go first with whichever parent they were with. I don't think it needs any more analysing than that. It's just about doing what's right. icon_wink.gif

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 11:41pm
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Dirtygirly wrote:

It's not about feminism... well not for me. It's just about being decent. The children would go first with whichever parent they were with. I don't think it needs any more analysing than that. It's just about doing what's right. icon_wink.gif


Ok ... the original post was intended to find perceptions and you made VERY clear that you expect children to be with women ....nothing to be ashamed of !!!

So the only analysing involved is why you assumed that children were automatically with women !!

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 11:43pm
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Which does beg the question ..... should the girl children go first ?

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 11:45pm
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Would be very interesting if a boat was sinking and a feminist was told to take the last place in the lifeboat, would she say yes? me thinks she would icon_wink.gif

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 11:47pm
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browning wrote:

Would be very interesting if a boat was sinking and a feminist was told to take the last place in the lifeboat, would she say yes? me thinks she would icon_wink.gif


Probably ...after all ...she`s got to spread the word icon_lol.gif

 

2nd Jul 2009 - 11:49pm
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flower411 wrote:

Dirtygirly wrote:

It's not about feminism... well not for me. It's just about being decent. The children would go first with whichever parent they were with. I don't think it needs any more analysing than that. It's just about doing what's right. icon_wink.gif


Ok ... the original post was intended to find perceptions and you made VERY clear that you expect children to be with women ....nothing to be ashamed of !!!

So the only analysing involved is why you assumed that children were automatically with women !!


No... the WITH was to make it clear that the children should go first. I hadn't really thought about who would take them. I was just repeating your "women and children" statement, only replacing the "and" with "with"!

Sorry for the misunderstanding. icon_wink.gif

Again... the lickle people should go first with whichever responsible adult is with them. Tis the right thing to do REGARDLESS of gender. icon_mrgreen.gif

That goes for the kids too. They're minors. Save them first.

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2nd Jul 2009 - 11:59pm
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flower411 wrote:

meat2pleaseu wrote:

flower411 wrote:

There`s been some stuff said on here about equality and shit icon_rolleyes.gif


So .... I just want to ask ...

If you were in a situation where it was VERY important to be first ....and some guy says

"Women and children first"

Would you ....as a woman say ..."No... it`s ok ..that guy was in front of me"

Or ...as a man ...would you say ...

"Fuck that ! I`m a new man ...it`s everybody for themselves !! "

I`d probably act like a perfect gentleman and let the women go first !! icon_rolleyes.gif Fuckin schmuck !! icon_rolleyes.gif


Do you want the serious answer, as in you're on a plane that has crashed/gone up in flames?


Exactly !!! I`m hearing a lot of feminist talk in this forum and I want to know !!!


OK, i'm a bit of a documentary geek and i have a special liking for things like the 911 attack and plane crashes/survivals. I watched a rather fascinating one on survival instinct studies and the relationship to animal instincts etc. One particular study looked at people who had survived and not survived plane crashes and their actions and reactions to the plane crash. It found that there were individuals who survived when others around them didn't which was discovered to be a combination of paying attention to where the exits were, how many seats away they were from it etc. The study also found that numerous people perished as they almost queued in an orderly fashion to get out or tried to retrieve their personal items, others just froze up completely. The survivors who'd paid attention had also ignored the 'waiting patiently to get off the burning plane' behaviour and had simply climbed over the seats.
While it's all lovely to say you stop and help X,Y & Z it's an action that could probably get you killed and may even result in the death of others by impeading their escape. without being in a particular situation it's impossible to say what you will/won't or should/shouldn't do, but one of the first things i learnt many years ago when i trained as a lifegurad is the first life you guard is your own as putting yourself in danger then leads to the situation of yourself needing to be rescued at the risk of someone elses wellbeing.
I guess i haven't really answered the question and i don't think it can be answered easily, people do all sorts of brave, selfish, stupid and heroicly viewed things in dangerous situations, until it's you there you can't say for sure icon_wink.gif

 

3rd Jul 2009 - 12:02am
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You're quite smart for a geek! icon_wink.gif

 

3rd Jul 2009 - 12:11am
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Dirtygirly wrote:

You're quite smart for a geek! icon_wink.gif

Errrr, most geeks are quite clever-it sort of helps really icon_rolleyes.gif

 

3rd Jul 2009 - 12:36am
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women first, for the view... children can form a nice carpet.
lp

 

3rd Jul 2009 - 1:46am
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__random_orbit__ wrote:

women first, for the view... children can form a nice carpet.
lp


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