Disabled parking bays

A difficult one this. Most of the time in most places the spaces are wasted. However:-

Firstly, there may still be more disabled people than spaces in some locations on a 6% rule.

Secondly, if a few of these spaces were made available to others including those with young children they would soon fill up and you might still be driving round looking yourself.

As I say, a difficult one.

Plim

PS. Lot of help, am I not

I cannot for the life of me understand why people will object to bays being made easily available to those with disabilities.
What type of selfish c**t must you be to complain that you need to walk a few hundred yards to get to the shops

Yes the bay might be empty , but that presumably means that should someone who turns up need it they can use it,my mind boggles at how this can be anything but a good thing.

Quite frankly i think some people would prefer it if all people with disabilities were kept in large institutions with keep out signs on the gates so they didnt have to acknowledge there existance

What a silly childish comment to make. Sorry but do you have any clue as to how much money has been spent ( by law btw ) to accommodate disabled people?

They....quite rightly, should be given preferential treatment over able bodied people at shopping centres, and I think you will find they are.

My Father is disabled and people and shops, go out of their way to help him.

All the article was saying is about the pro rata ammount of spaces available. It has nothing to do with anyone wanting disabled people " kept in large institutions ", that is not true and you know it.

I know that is not true possibly more than you do, with a disabled Father!

People go out of their way to help disabled people, and not the other way around as you would have us believe.

because it makes me a bit of a cunt, and I like that.
What was the article? I daren't read it.

Parking spaces for the disabled?
Of course. What kind of selfish and heartless person would think otherwise?
Please don't take the above as a constructive comment. Just a statement.
lp

Where did I say I was offended by it?

I merely pointed out the artical and ASKED ya know that word ASKED If we needed as many as we do?

When I take my Father out I obviously would like to park as close to the entrance as possible BUT, if that is not possible then I place him in his wheelchair and push him an extra few yards...simples.

The word " dragged in " is also a tad childish as that was NOT my intention. Jeeze how touchy are you fgs?

No flame thrower here, GNV.
The number of times you see people get out of cars in disabled bays (legitimately, when they have the blue badge), then run/trot to the shop, is appalling. One time that happened and there was a policeman nearby; he waited for the man to come out of the shop he'd gone into. I think now, the person who the badge is for, has to be in the vehicle.

My dad is registered disabled but very occasionally, he has a relatively good day, when he feels like a fraud for using a disabled space. So he doesn't. Someone once pulled him up about it though, saying he was using an able-bodied space when there were disabled ones available!

My dad has a Fiesta which he struggles to get into/out of sometimes - you see some 'disabled' drivers in bloody sporty little cars; I think there should be a limited range of cars that motability money can be used for. Maybe that's now the case though?

GNV, I like your idea of siting disabled bays near to where modified trolleys are parked. That would perhaps stop people abusing the spaces. After all, if they're in a wheelchair or have walking aids, isn't that to make them (almost) as mobile as able-bodied people?

Park in the disabled bay and limp until out of sight.......I think my work here is completed

I can't see what the problem is here at all.

Tottenham Tesco has disabled bays full everyday. Very large cars, with well dressed; disabled young black men, limping between the vehicles. They seem to be a friendly lot and they hand out medicine to any one who needs it.

I have to say the police can work miracle cures. As soon as they appear the young black fellows cease limping and indeed appear to be able to run into their cars and drive off very effectively.

So I think they are being used very well don't you?

My work has a decent sized car-park. They also provide disabled bays in the section at the front of the building. Only 8. The carpark itself takes at least 300 (can't be bothered to do the maths for the percentage). We are a staff training site with a conference facility so we can get a lot of people from elsewhere on any one day. This will generally include more than one disabled person - and there's no sensible way to predict how many on any one day. As well as the 2-3 disabled badge holders who work there daily.

We also have a loading area, just at the side of the building with a flat route to the door making it easy for people pushing trolleys to get to the building.

It is rare for all the disabled bays to be used, but as has been mentioned earlier - a full disabled bay is no use to anyone. So you do need to allow for there to be always some available.

And yet almost every day I arrive at work and find a van or car parked in there often unloading something. And I've tackled security about it loads of times but they just act like they can't do anythign about it.

It's lazy (of the drivers), selfish and rude. And I know that if I parked there I would be hauled over the coals for it. I wouldn't do it, except to annoy the bosses anyway.

We also have a disabled toilet on each floor, and spacious male and female toilets on separate floors. Ladies on my floor and gents upstairs. And yet perfectly fit people think they can just 'nip in' cos they are too busy to walk one flight of stairs (which are right next to the toilets).

The point of having disabled toilets on each floor is because (even using the lift) it is slow for a disabled person to get to a different floor. Disabled folk often have to juggle urgency with slow travel. So why do these lazy, healthy people think the same disabled person will be fine hanging around outside the one and only designated toilet on that floor waiting for them to finish?

OK I get that someone may have the trots, but if it's that many there must be a constant flaming epidemic in my building.