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£30,000 a year?

10th Mar 2010 - 9:41pm
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i'm watching the jobless celeb program where there is a couple with five kids, one on the way and living in a six bedroomed house. they get just short of £30,000 a year!

although the dad is saying that he wished he could get a job, why the hell would he with that coming in? he's not had a job for 7 years and then not a job that would pay that sort of money.

£30,000 a year ffs!! i doubt that there is any job he could get that would bring in that sort of money.

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10th Mar 2010 - 9:45pm
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I sense some lefty bashing coming this way...





EDIT: Is that £30,000 take home?

 

10th Mar 2010 - 9:53pm
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How much would he have to earn for tax credits or other benefits to make up the shortfall ?

 

10th Mar 2010 - 10:06pm
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i really don't know flower, i suppose it depends on what you get for each child. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that he doesn't want to work but i know from experience that working can bring in less money. he may well be one of the ones who does want to work but at that sort of money it's easy to see why so many don't. why get up every morning and slog your guts out for a pittence when you can sit on your arse and get over £500 a week. i just find it a little amazing.

mum was walking round in a skimp top and the kids were in t-shirts in a six bedroomed house. i wish i could afford to heat my house like that so i don't have to wrap up or snuggle under a blanket to keep warm.

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10th Mar 2010 - 10:19pm
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I watched both nights (last night and tonight) and on the whole found it a very good programme...

The mother in question said she blamed her husband for them having so many kids icon_rolleyes.gif
Perhaps she should have kept her legs closed boink.gif

The reformed criminal living in Wolverhampton said he gets £114 per week out of which he pays £20 rent....

How the hell does he get that much ??......All I can get is £64 per week out of which I am expected to hand enough over to placate my mortgage lender....Then set about paying all the normal household bills and perhaps if there is any left feed myself AND keep enough back to get me to and from the countless interviews I am expected to attend to prove I'm not a career benefit recipient ....

 

10th Mar 2010 - 10:21pm
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The warmest houses I`ve ever been in have always been the ones where the occupants weren`t paying the bills ....

I don`t know the answers ....but I know for an absolute fact that society will not continue to fund the freeloaders ....whoever they may be ....

 

10th Mar 2010 - 10:53pm
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This is no isolated incident...there are loads out there getting the same and in many circumstances more.

It is never a case of can't work, but won't work.

It is obscene where as Steve says he gets a pitiful ammount and because they never turn the telly on ( 52in plasma btw no doubt )they shag and make more babies!

More babies that the taxpayer has to fund.

Kick the lazy fecker out to work and make him see what the rest of us mugs have to do. But they won't...bad back no doubt.

Until there is a MASSIVE overhaul of the benefit system, these kinds of scroungers...that is what they are, will continue to take the piss out of us all. But you know the real sad thing about all this is that what they are doing has been made possible by Governments.

Makes me wonder why I bother to get up in the morning...oh yes I know now, as a taxpayer all my life I will get £64 a week just like Steve does.

 

10th Mar 2010 - 11:05pm
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Steve wrote:

I watched both nights (last night and tonight) and on the whole found it a very good programme...

The mother in question said she blamed her husband for them having so many kids icon_rolleyes.gif
Perhaps she should have kept her legs closed
boink.gif

The reformed criminal living in Wolverhampton said he gets £114 per week out of which he pays £20 rent....

How the hell does he get that much ??......All I can get is £64 per week out of which I am expected to hand enough over to placate my mortgage lender....Then set about paying all the normal household bills and perhaps if there is any left feed myself AND keep enough back to get me to and from the countless interviews I am expected to attend to prove I'm not a career benefit recipient ....


completely agree steve, this is just what i was thinking. go on the pill, use a condom, get your tubes tied, send him for the snip, but don't blame him for the fact that you let him screw you knowing what would happen.

my gas and electric is £30 a week used as a minium. ok so i would get more coz i have the boy, but £64 for an adult compaired to what they are getting just coz she can churn out the kids is an insult.

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10th Mar 2010 - 11:08pm
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Ms_Whips wrote:

Steve wrote:

I watched both nights (last night and tonight) and on the whole found it a very good programme...

The mother in question said she blamed her husband for them having so many kids icon_rolleyes.gif
Perhaps she should have kept her legs closed
boink.gif

The reformed criminal living in Wolverhampton said he gets £114 per week out of which he pays £20 rent....

How the hell does he get that much ??......All I can get is £64 per week out of which I am expected to hand enough over to placate my mortgage lender....Then set about paying all the normal household bills and perhaps if there is any left feed myself AND keep enough back to get me to and from the countless interviews I am expected to attend to prove I'm not a career benefit recipient ....


completely agree steve, this is just what i was thinking. go on the pill, use a condom, get your tubes tied, send him for the snip, but don't blame him for the fact that you let him screw you knowing what would happen.

my gas and electric is £30 a week used as a minium. ok so i would get more coz i have the boy, but £64 for an adult compaired to what they are getting just coz she can churn out the kids is an insult.

whips


And the alternative?kid growing up in poverty without enough food,ok i accept some people play the system but as a rich country why cant we ensure children have a decent standard of living?

 

10th Mar 2010 - 11:09pm
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Kaznkev wrote:

Ms_Whips wrote:

Steve wrote:

I watched both nights (last night and tonight) and on the whole found it a very good programme...

The mother in question said she blamed her husband for them having so many kids icon_rolleyes.gif
Perhaps she should have kept her legs closed
boink.gif

The reformed criminal living in Wolverhampton said he gets £114 per week out of which he pays £20 rent....

How the hell does he get that much ??......All I can get is £64 per week out of which I am expected to hand enough over to placate my mortgage lender....Then set about paying all the normal household bills and perhaps if there is any left feed myself AND keep enough back to get me to and from the countless interviews I am expected to attend to prove I'm not a career benefit recipient ....


completely agree steve, this is just what i was thinking. go on the pill, use a condom, get your tubes tied, send him for the snip, but don't blame him for the fact that you let him screw you knowing what would happen.

my gas and electric is £30 a week used as a minium. ok so i would get more coz i have the boy, but £64 for an adult compaired to what they are getting just coz she can churn out the kids is an insult.

whips


And the alternative?kid growing up in poverty without enough food,ok i accept some people play the system but as a rich country why cant we ensure children have a decent standard of living?


You obviously never watch the news then?

Rich? Where the heck do you get that from?

 

10th Mar 2010 - 11:13pm
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Kaznkev wrote:

Ms_Whips wrote:

Steve wrote:

I watched both nights (last night and tonight) and on the whole found it a very good programme...

The mother in question said she blamed her husband for them having so many kids icon_rolleyes.gif
Perhaps she should have kept her legs closed
boink.gif

The reformed criminal living in Wolverhampton said he gets £114 per week out of which he pays £20 rent....

How the hell does he get that much ??......All I can get is £64 per week out of which I am expected to hand enough over to placate my mortgage lender....Then set about paying all the normal household bills and perhaps if there is any left feed myself AND keep enough back to get me to and from the countless interviews I am expected to attend to prove I'm not a career benefit recipient ....


completely agree steve, this is just what i was thinking. go on the pill, use a condom, get your tubes tied, send him for the snip, but don't blame him for the fact that you let him screw you knowing what would happen.

my gas and electric is £30 a week used as a minium. ok so i would get more coz i have the boy, but £64 for an adult compaired to what they are getting just coz she can churn out the kids is an insult.

whips


And the alternative?kid growing up in poverty without enough food,ok i accept some people play the system but as a rich country why cant we ensure children have a decent standard of living?


i'm not saying they should kaz, but what i do know is that it doesn't take an extra £20,000 a year to look after 4 more kids than the other family who only had one. having kids is all well and good if you can afford them, but why should the state pay for baby churners? ok if you already have a big family and things go wrong, but then that is something that can happen to any of us. alternatively, if you are already on benefits stop having the kids, get off your arse and work.

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10th Mar 2010 - 11:15pm
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Well is the cia a right wing enough source for you

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/uk.html

they dont put us as poor,and if you travel to a poor country you will see why

 

10th Mar 2010 - 11:17pm
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What is the breakdown of the £30,000? How is it made up? Is it really £30,000, I didn't see the programme but would be interested to see what benefits are actually being claimed.

 

10th Mar 2010 - 11:18pm
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northwest-cpl wrote:

What is the breakdown of the £30,000? How is it made up? Is it really £30,000, I didn't see the programme but would be interested to see what benefits are actually being claimed.



Including housing benefit of some £170 + per week they were in receipt of over £560 per week IIRC...

 

10th Mar 2010 - 11:20pm
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To receive £30,000 net, you have to earn around £42,000 gross! As Arthur Daly used to say "it's a nice little earner"

 

10th Mar 2010 - 11:29pm
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northwest-cpl wrote:

What is the breakdown of the £30,000? How is it made up? Is it really £30,000, I didn't see the programme but would be interested to see what benefits are actually being claimed.


exactly my thoughts, are they including housing benifit and council tax in that?

 

10th Mar 2010 - 11:36pm
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Kaznkev wrote:

northwest-cpl wrote:

What is the breakdown of the £30,000? How is it made up? Is it really £30,000, I didn't see the programme but would be interested to see what benefits are actually being claimed.


exactly my thoughts, are they including housing benifit and council tax in that?



Read 2 posts up.....

 

10th Mar 2010 - 11:36pm
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does it really matter whether they also get housing benefit and council tax reductions?

my friend has one child, works part time and gets some benefits, ie working tax credits and child tax credits. she gets the single persons allowance for council tax and £80 a month towards rent that is £450 a month. i know the hours she works and the money she gets, quite frankly i wonder how the hell she manages.

what ever way it's paid (and i'd like to know how the hell they get paid child tax credits when they don't work dunno.gif ) i still know that it doesn't cost an extra £20,000 a year to have four more kids.

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Steve wrote:

northwest-cpl wrote:

What is the breakdown of the £30,000? How is it made up? Is it really £30,000, I didn't see the programme but would be interested to see what benefits are actually being claimed.

Including housing benefit of some £170 + per week they were in receipt of over £560 per week IIRC...

£170 seems cheap for a 6 bed house, student houses in Preston are coming on for that price for 3 beds, I wonder where they live.

I did a little research, they will probably be getting £100 couple's income support and then £56 for each dependent child which with the £170 will get to the £560 more or less.

The £56 for each child seems a bit excessive, I can understand that for the first but after that I would have expected the rate to drop considerably since the kids will be sharing things and should be wearing hand me downs.

On the face of it it looks wrong and community work of some sort for long term unemployed would put something back into the kitty. Still, I'm sure it will all change in May.

 

11th Mar 2010 - 1:18am
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Ms_Whips wrote:

does it really matter whether they also get housing benefit and council tax reductions?

my friend has one child, works part time and gets some benefits, ie working tax credits and child tax credits. she gets the single persons allowance for council tax and £80 a month towards rent that is £450 a month. i know the hours she works and the money she gets, quite frankly i wonder how the hell she manages.

what ever way it's paid (and i'd like to know how the hell they get paid child tax credits when they don't work dunno.gif ) i still know that it doesn't cost an extra £20,000 a year to have four more kids.

whips


No it doesnt seem right,which is why i was questioning the figures, when kev lost his job last year we struggled massively to survive tho,membership of here was our only Christmas present to each other,luxaries went out the window and i don't see how that family was fairly claiming so much unless there were other issues we are not aware of.

Child tax credit are paid according to the children, working family tax credit is paid if you have a job, the idea is that you are not on benefits that getting a job will cause you to loose,but already part of the tax system
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