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15th Jun 2010 - 3:48pm
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Well is seems that common sense has prevailed here.

The Labour Government who tried to bring this in were too concerned with the namby pamby state controlled bollox.

Of course vetting should take priority where children are concerned, but at least be sensible about things.

The OLD yes OLD labour Government are in the shadows now and long may that remain.

What with their obsession with this and their obsession with the identity card crap, both are now going to be seriously looked at and hopefully scrapped.

What you doing now then Brown?

Certainly not making the majority of voters lives a misery. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

 

16th Jun 2010 - 12:56am
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Well, it's only going to be "looked at".
It was only ever part of the "dredge all the info about everyone and store it" idea about government.
Like the massive child database....which will also continue in another form.
The operative phrase here is that it was/is the state that started all the crap, and the state still runs the government (not the other way around).

 

16th Jun 2010 - 1:10am
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Anyone who has actually had to put in for a crb was looking forward to this scheme it made far more sense and cut red tape.

i need different crbs to help at school,cubs and teach sunday school,each costs.This now abandoned system would have done away with this duplication.

However the "draconian" scheme was attacked by journalists who have never done a days voluntary work in their lives.

 

16th Jun 2010 - 8:26am
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Kaznkev wrote:

Anyone who has actually had to put in for a crb was looking forward to this scheme it made far more sense and cut red tape.

i need different crbs to help at school,cubs and teach sunday school,each costs.This now abandoned system would have done away with this duplication.

However the "draconian" scheme was attacked by journalists who have never done a days voluntary work in their lives.


if you are a volunteer at these groups then a crb check is free.

on another note a crb check can bring up anything, a friend has been accused of something and as a result fails a crb check, there was no questioning by police no charges brought against them not even a caution as the person who accused them withdrew the complaint (due to them fibbing) yet they still fail the crb how is this fair when they come to apply for a new job or want to volunteer for something.

 

16th Jun 2010 - 8:31am
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Kaznkev wrote:

Anyone who has actually had to put in for a crb was looking forward to this scheme it made far more sense and cut red tape.

i need different crbs to help at school,cubs and teach sunday school,each costs.This now abandoned system would have done away with this duplication.

However the "draconian" scheme was attacked by journalists who have never done a days voluntary work in their lives.


What an extraordinary statement !!!!! icon_eek.gif

Care to back that up ?

 

16th Jun 2010 - 9:17am
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Sara,free, you mean they magically appear in my letter box,there is a cost whether you pay yourself or not.

Flower you show me the organisation Melanie philips or Richard littlejohn has volunteered for and i will gladly retract.

 

16th Jun 2010 - 10:46am
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I'm with KaznKev on this one.

I have a CRB for the Scout Association, one for Duke of Edinburgh Award and one for Church. However, when my daughters school wanted help I couldn't do anything until i had ANOTHER CRB form.

Explain how that made the kids safer.
True, I didn't pay for it, but someone did somewhere. And knowing the bureaucracy involved, I bet it wasn't cheap. (all that photo-copying . . .)

How is this for a radical suggestion, why you take the current CRB form and make it that each person only needs one regardless of how many different organisations they are involved with.

Ah sorry, talking sense there for a moment, I'll get my coat . . .

 

16th Jun 2010 - 3:41pm
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Because the gap between the first CRB check and the new job may mask a whole bag of dung...
Most CRB checks are done through "umbrella" organisation (councils/large companies) who keep the info to re-sell for another check.....with updates !
The enhanced CRB is for children and vulnerable adults. Enhanced attracts a whole load of info that is not revealed to the applicant.
The Vetting and Safeguarding thing is to do with volunteers mainly, not employment related directly.