Heard this one on the radio today
So the war on motorist's continue as councils across the country consider plans to charge us for going to work. Equally this could be seen as a tax on business.
Some times it feels like the more one does the right thing, the more we get punished, would we be better of staying at home.
Your thoughts please
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23869779-drivers-face-pound-250-a-year-charge-to-park-at-work.do
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Drivers face £250 a year charge to park at work
23rd Aug 2010 - 6:34pm
Re: Drivers face £250 a year charge to park at work
23rd Aug 2010 - 6:39pm
Bluefish2009 wrote:
Heard this one on the radio today
So the war on motorist's continue as councils across the country consider plans to charge us for going to work. Equally this could be seen as a tax on business.
Some times it feels like the more one does the right thing, the more we get punished, would we be better of staying at home.
Your thoughts please
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23869779-drivers-face-pound-250-a-year-charge-to-park-at-work.do
Heard this one on the radio today
So the war on motorist's continue as councils across the country consider plans to charge us for going to work. Equally this could be seen as a tax on business.
Some times it feels like the more one does the right thing, the more we get punished, would we be better of staying at home.
Your thoughts please
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23869779-drivers-face-pound-250-a-year-charge-to-park-at-work.do
They'll charge you business rates... and then for parking your own car in your own drive
As I have said before Blue, it does not take a clever person to work out that councils will now try and find a manner of ways, to claw money back from the cuts they will have to make.
The motorist is just such an easy target but this will be only the beginning.
Many councils are greedy to such a point that it is bordering on criminal.
They are not answerable to anyone but themselves,and there will be many more stories of councils spying techniques to rob Joe public of their money....watch this space.
The motorist is just such an easy target but this will be only the beginning.
Many councils are greedy to such a point that it is bordering on criminal.
They are not answerable to anyone but themselves,and there will be many more stories of councils spying techniques to rob Joe public of their money....watch this space.
*Quotes*
Under proposals being considered by York City Council, the charge would be paid 'by the employer or charged to the employee'. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305362/Drivers-facing-250-tax-park-work-despite-end-war-motorists-pledge.html#ixzz0xSDT7mVX
A spokesman for the council said the charge would be levied on employers who would be free to pass it on to their staff.
How the scheme will be enforced has still to be agreed. "We are still trying to work that out. We are not planning batteries of CCTV cameras," a spokesman said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/5941352/Motorists-in-Nottingham-to-face-Britains-first-workplace-parking-levy.html
Under proposals being considered by York City Council, the charge would be paid 'by the employer or charged to the employee'. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305362/Drivers-facing-250-tax-park-work-despite-end-war-motorists-pledge.html#ixzz0xSDT7mVX
A spokesman for the council said the charge would be levied on employers who would be free to pass it on to their staff.
How the scheme will be enforced has still to be agreed. "We are still trying to work that out. We are not planning batteries of CCTV cameras," a spokesman said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/5941352/Motorists-in-Nottingham-to-face-Britains-first-workplace-parking-levy.html
Kaznkev wrote:
i am confused blue,if the company owns the land how can they be made to pay this.Do you have any more details?
i am confused blue,if the company owns the land how can they be made to pay this.Do you have any more details?
This was being discussed by our LA when we ran a business and owned our own premises with car parking facilities.
To be frank, we asked the same question but the reply was basically "up yours! as a Council, we can charge what we want". Its all under the guise of climate change, can you believe. They were also going to enforce the installation of covered bicycle storage, I recall so that employees would be "encouraged" to travel to work by bike, thereby saving the planet.
The fact that our business premises were a considerable distance into the countryside on dangerous single track country roads seemed to escape them.
Save the planet by all means, but don't worry about employees cycling home on dark wintry nights when it's pissing down with rain or icy and the bus only travels through the village once a week (in the opposite direction to that required)!
i believe my business rates are part based on how many parking spaces my business premises has
so this might end up a no brainer or a spectacular own goal by the local council
so this might end up a no brainer or a spectacular own goal by the local council
I always thought the business rates included an element that reflected parking facilities. Use of specific charges simply provides transparency and therefore choice does it not. I agree that local councils are having to think of a multitude of ways to raise revenue. I have long been an advocate of voluntary taxation in certain circumstances.
in my case bengy i would just purchase the derelict adjoining land and open a free car park of my staff and other users on the estate
Lizaleanrob wrote:
i believe my business rates are part based on how many parking spaces my business premises has
so this might end up a no brainer or a spectacular own goal by the local council
i believe my business rates are part based on how many parking spaces my business premises has
so this might end up a no brainer or a spectacular own goal by the local council
You may find that your business rates are directly related to what the Rating Officer has set down as a notional "rent" for your premises translated into an RV which in turn is used as the multiplier for the amount you actually end up paying.
Whether the number of car parking spaces contributes to that notional rent is anyone's guess but I suppose rating specialists have some sort of idea how it all strings together.
GnV wrote:
You may find that your business rates are directly related to what the Rating Officer has set down as a notional "rent" for your premises translated into an RV which in turn is used as the multiplier for the amount you actually end up paying.
Whether the number of car parking spaces contributes to that notional rent is anyone's guess but I suppose rating specialists have some sort of idea how it all strings together.
Lizaleanrob wrote:
i believe my business rates are part based on how many parking spaces my business premises has
so this might end up a no brainer or a spectacular own goal by the local council
i believe my business rates are part based on how many parking spaces my business premises has
so this might end up a no brainer or a spectacular own goal by the local council
You may find that your business rates are directly related to what the Rating Officer has set down as a notional "rent" for your premises translated into an RV which in turn is used as the multiplier for the amount you actually end up paying.
Whether the number of car parking spaces contributes to that notional rent is anyone's guess but I suppose rating specialists have some sort of idea how it all strings together.
when we purchased our current building it was the case size as the building we rented but the rates where more
when questioned we was informed we had parking for 30 cars although it was the same as the previous building
which only had parking for 10 cars
I'm convinced they make it up as they go along!
If you were to question them more deeply, they undoubtedly would argue that they only thought you had access to 10 when you were renting but now you own the whole site, it's the whole 30 now.
If you press them even harder saying the number hasn't changed since you were renting, they'll probably send you a supplementary bill for the other 20 spaces they undercharged for, for however many years they actually undercharged you.
If you were to question them more deeply, they undoubtedly would argue that they only thought you had access to 10 when you were renting but now you own the whole site, it's the whole 30 now.
If you press them even harder saying the number hasn't changed since you were renting, they'll probably send you a supplementary bill for the other 20 spaces they undercharged for, for however many years they actually undercharged you.
Ben_welshminx wrote:
Would the land not then be subject to rates?
Lizaleanrob wrote:
in my case bengy i would just purchase the derelict adjoining land and open a free car park of my staff and other users on the estate
in my case bengy i would just purchase the derelict adjoining land and open a free car park of my staff and other users on the estate
Would the land not then be subject to rates?
depends what purpose you list it for bengy
Lizaleanrob wrote:
depends what purpose you list it for bengy
Ben_welshminx wrote:
Would the land not then be subject to rates?
Lizaleanrob wrote:
in my case bengy i would just purchase the derelict adjoining land and open a free car park of my staff and other users on the estate
in my case bengy i would just purchase the derelict adjoining land and open a free car park of my staff and other users on the estate
Would the land not then be subject to rates?
depends what purpose you list it for bengy
It seams wrong that one should have to go to such lengths and jump through hoops to run a business, the country is in dire straights and desperate for small businesses to do well yet some times it feels like at every turn you get knocked back
GnV wrote:
I'm convinced they make it up as they go along!
If you were to question them more deeply, they undoubtedly would argue that they only thought you had access to 10 when you were renting but now you own the whole site, it's the whole 30 now.
If you press them even harder saying the number hasn't changed since you were renting, they'll probably send you a supplementary bill for the other 20 spaces they undercharged for, for however many years they actually undercharged you.
I'm convinced they make it up as they go along!
If you were to question them more deeply, they undoubtedly would argue that they only thought you had access to 10 when you were renting but now you own the whole site, it's the whole 30 now.
If you press them even harder saying the number hasn't changed since you were renting, they'll probably send you a supplementary bill for the other 20 spaces they undercharged for, for however many years they actually undercharged you.
nope we did get a reduction gnv
not without a fight though
What do I do? There is no publc transport that goes from my village to my work and at over 10 miles it's too far to cycle.
foxylady2209 wrote:
What do I do? There is no publc transport that goes from my village to my work and at over 10 miles it's too far to cycle.
What do I do? There is no publc transport that goes from my village to my work and at over 10 miles it's too far to cycle.
sue the council failing to supply adequate public transport
your sure to win as they don't even turn up
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Let the weeds grow for a couple of years and then invite Defra and the Valuation officer round at the same time ......tell em you`re trying to introduce hedgerows on a brownfield site ....maybe invite the Green party representative at the same time ...
They`ll all be arguing for years ....
Won`t achieve much but it`d be a laugh
They`ll all be arguing for years ....
Won`t achieve much but it`d be a laugh
