I think we have all heard or seen the footage of a respectable lady picking a cat up, and discarding it into a rubbish bin.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1306234/What-Mary-Bale-dump-cat-Lola-wheelie-bin.html
Had it of been near April 1st I would have thought it was a practical joke but......... it sadly was not.
When first approached she just dismissed it all by saying people were over reacting and that it was " just a cat ".
What she did was cruel and pretty nasty, and as this has now been seen around the world thanks to You Tube, she is certainly paying a heavy price for her moment of madness.
The question now is should she be prosecuted for her actions, or her being caught and now saying how sorry she is, enough of a punishment?
I am unsure myself to be honest. I saw the video clip and there was malice there for sure. There was also a deliberate attempt to cause harm to that cat...for what reason I do not know.
So should the RSPCA prosecute her, or is she currently getting enough of a punishment from the media?
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Cat in the bin
26th Aug 2010 - 11:33am
I saw this clip a few days ago and I was really shocked by it. I did question how it happened to be right under a camera though. I'm still not convinced it wasn't a hoax.
But even so, she absolutely should be prosecuted for it. How can she have put a cat in a bin and not intended to cause harm? Animal cruelty is animal cruelty and thats prosecutable regardless of the type of animal.
And punishment by media? No no no! Punishment by law not by media.
But even so, she absolutely should be prosecuted for it. How can she have put a cat in a bin and not intended to cause harm? Animal cruelty is animal cruelty and thats prosecutable regardless of the type of animal.
And punishment by media? No no no! Punishment by law not by media.
vampanya wrote:
I saw this clip a few days ago and I was really shocked by it. I did question how it happened to be right under a camera though. I'm still not convinced it wasn't a hoax.
But even so, she absolutely should be prosecuted for it. How can she have put a cat in a bin and not intended to cause harm? Animal cruelty is animal cruelty and thats prosecutable regardless of the type of animal.
I saw this clip a few days ago and I was really shocked by it. I did question how it happened to be right under a camera though. I'm still not convinced it wasn't a hoax.
But even so, she absolutely should be prosecuted for it. How can she have put a cat in a bin and not intended to cause harm? Animal cruelty is animal cruelty and thats prosecutable regardless of the type of animal.
Apparently Vamps one of the neighbours whose cat it was, had put up cctv outside their house, as they had problems in the past in some way.
It was pure luck if that is the right word, to have caught this woman doing this.
This was also reported on French TV.
There are those that say the French respect animal rights less than elsewhere in the world but this was viewed here with some incredulity!
Drown the little beggars at birth perhaps, leave them to their own devices in the open countryside by all means but leave it to suffer in a wheelie bin when it has done no harm beggars belief!
Yes, she should be prosecuted.
Did I understand it correctly, she is a bank worker - yes?
There are those that say the French respect animal rights less than elsewhere in the world but this was viewed here with some incredulity!
Drown the little beggars at birth perhaps, leave them to their own devices in the open countryside by all means but leave it to suffer in a wheelie bin when it has done no harm beggars belief!
Yes, she should be prosecuted.
Did I understand it correctly, she is a bank worker - yes?
I would just love to know why she did this? Even if there was some sort of word from her regarding hating cats because they sh*t in her garden and ruined her Azaleas or something but no, she claims to love cats - odd mind set. Though i'm sure she is going through hell at the moment I think that the law should take due course.
GnV wrote:
This was also reported on French TV.
There are those that say the French respect animal rights less than elsewhere in the world but this was viewed here with some incredulity!
Drown the little beggars at birth perhaps, leave them to their own devices in the open countryside by all means but leave it to suffer in a wheelie bin when it has done no harm beggars belief!
Yes, she should be prosecuted.
Did I understand it correctly, she is a bank worker - yes?
This was also reported on French TV.
There are those that say the French respect animal rights less than elsewhere in the world but this was viewed here with some incredulity!
Drown the little beggars at birth perhaps, leave them to their own devices in the open countryside by all means but leave it to suffer in a wheelie bin when it has done no harm beggars belief!
Yes, she should be prosecuted.
Did I understand it correctly, she is a bank worker - yes?
Oh and your right GnV the French I know are bloody vile to their animals in general.
The apology seemed a half hearted attempt to stop the attacks on her.
It is irrelevant anyway,the law has been broken,she acted in a cruel manner to an anilmal,there is evidence.i see no reason why the RSPCA should not prosecute.Remorse is good,but it does not mean we are not subject to the law.
Reguarding the filming,apparently the people had trouble with vandalism of their car,so had installed cctv,it seems quite commen in cities, i see no reason to doubt their word.
The Daily Mash had an excellent article on this!
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/cat-bin-lady-signed-by-cowell-201008253035/
i love "Bale has been offered protection by Coventry police after a local vigilante group threatened to torch her house for being a paedophile on the basis the cat was only two years old."
It is irrelevant anyway,the law has been broken,she acted in a cruel manner to an anilmal,there is evidence.i see no reason why the RSPCA should not prosecute.Remorse is good,but it does not mean we are not subject to the law.
Reguarding the filming,apparently the people had trouble with vandalism of their car,so had installed cctv,it seems quite commen in cities, i see no reason to doubt their word.
The Daily Mash had an excellent article on this!
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/cat-bin-lady-signed-by-cowell-201008253035/
i love "Bale has been offered protection by Coventry police after a local vigilante group threatened to torch her house for being a paedophile on the basis the cat was only two years old."
I would be very cross if I opened my wheelie bin to discover it full of dead cat and cat shit.
She should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law including a local authority fine for putting potential waste in anothers bin.
Or maybe she was a bit off her head, you get people who do odd things when they aint quite themselves. My mother in law stole 4 slices of ham from the co-op when she was and ended up with a criminal record which menat that she lost her job and her future prospects were severely limited.
We shall never know of course, but god bless our media for helping to make her life hell. All in the public interest of course.
No cats have been harmed in the composition of this post.
She should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law including a local authority fine for putting potential waste in anothers bin.
Or maybe she was a bit off her head, you get people who do odd things when they aint quite themselves. My mother in law stole 4 slices of ham from the co-op when she was and ended up with a criminal record which menat that she lost her job and her future prospects were severely limited.
We shall never know of course, but god bless our media for helping to make her life hell. All in the public interest of course.
No cats have been harmed in the composition of this post.
I pissed myself laughing at this appalling act of publicity hunting by the R.S.P.C.A......The woman was overtaken by a moment of childish lunacy...she probably didn't think of either what she was doing or the consequences...the cat was unharmed...get over it FFS!
There are far more serious cases of animal cruelty that the police and R.S.P.C.A. ignore or refuse to act on daily....this is just good for their image, both organisations should be given steely dan and told to go and fuck themselves
There are far more serious cases of animal cruelty that the police and R.S.P.C.A. ignore or refuse to act on daily....this is just good for their image, both organisations should be given steely dan and told to go and fuck themselves
Ben_welshminx wrote:
I would be very cross if I opened my wheelie bin to discover it full of dead cat and cat shit.
She should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law including a local authority fine for putting potential waste in anothers bin.
Or maybe she was a bit off her head, you get people who do odd things when they aint quite themselves. My mother in law stole 4 slices of ham from the co-op when she was and ended up with a criminal record which menat that she lost her job and her future prospects were severely limited.
We shall never know of course, but god bless our media for helping to make her life hell. All in the public interest of course.
No cats have been harmed in the composition of this post.
I would be very cross if I opened my wheelie bin to discover it full of dead cat and cat shit.
She should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law including a local authority fine for putting potential waste in anothers bin.
Or maybe she was a bit off her head, you get people who do odd things when they aint quite themselves. My mother in law stole 4 slices of ham from the co-op when she was and ended up with a criminal record which menat that she lost her job and her future prospects were severely limited.
We shall never know of course, but god bless our media for helping to make her life hell. All in the public interest of course.
No cats have been harmed in the composition of this post.
Good to see you back on form Ben
Ben_welshminx wrote:
I would be very cross if I opened my wheelie bin to discover it full of dead cat and cat shit.
She should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law including a local authority fine for putting potential waste in anothers bin.
Or maybe she was a bit off her head, you get people who do odd things when they aint quite themselves. My mother in law stole 4 slices of ham from the co-op when she was and ended up with a criminal record which menat that she lost her job and her future prospects were severely limited.
We shall never know of course, but god bless our media for helping to make her life hell. All in the public interest of course.
No cats have been harmed in the composition of this post.
I would be very cross if I opened my wheelie bin to discover it full of dead cat and cat shit.
She should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law including a local authority fine for putting potential waste in anothers bin.
Or maybe she was a bit off her head, you get people who do odd things when they aint quite themselves. My mother in law stole 4 slices of ham from the co-op when she was and ended up with a criminal record which menat that she lost her job and her future prospects were severely limited.
We shall never know of course, but god bless our media for helping to make her life hell. All in the public interest of course.
No cats have been harmed in the composition of this post.
This is the state of things these days. It's pretty shamless of the cats owners to post the video on the internet probably guessing it would go viral.
Do you belive they have done it and then thought, 'oh hang on, we dont want her lynching, we didnt know you would do that ... be nice please'?
Trial by media again.
The evidence should have been presented to the right people, not all the people.
That is the beauty of the media Vamps, and long may it continue.
For had there been no publicity at all the powers that be would probably just have cautioned her, and in all tense and purposes, she would have got away with it.
But because of the media surrounding it and bringing it to peoples attention, she will hopefully get a punishment that fits the crime.
For had there been no publicity at all the powers that be would probably just have cautioned her, and in all tense and purposes, she would have got away with it.
But because of the media surrounding it and bringing it to peoples attention, she will hopefully get a punishment that fits the crime.
kentswingers777 wrote:
That is the beauty of the media Vamps, and long may it continue.
For had there been no publicity at all the powers that be would probably just have cautioned her, and in all tense and purposes, she would have got away with it.
But because of the media surrounding it and bringing it to peoples attention, she will hopefully get a punishment that fits the crime.
That is the beauty of the media Vamps, and long may it continue.
For had there been no publicity at all the powers that be would probably just have cautioned her, and in all tense and purposes, she would have got away with it.
But because of the media surrounding it and bringing it to peoples attention, she will hopefully get a punishment that fits the crime.
I disagree. There was clear evidence of her act. Why would she get away with it? Perhaps if there had been no video she would have got away with it but there is. And that can be used to prosecute and fine or caution accordingly.
But as for the punishment fitting the crime; no, it doesnt. She has been terrorised, threatened, harrassed and probably frightenend out of her mind not to mention that she's quite likey to be attacked or have her property damaged. All whipped up by media frenzy on Facebook and the like.
Now I'm not doing down what the cat might have felt but that is an extreme punishment by any means. Karma some might say, but still its not right. Her punishment if any should be decided by the law, not the public who've taken exception to what they have seen. The media creat a vigilante society and thats dangerous.
I maintain that the evidence should have been presented to the right people NOT the internet.
Unfortunately Vamps that does not happen now.
People have a right to know about anything now, certainly with the freedom of information act.
Tell me would you have liked to have seen a system that did not let the public know about the MP's expenses fiddles?
If the media were to be gagged then things like that would never come to light, certainly not where politicians are concerned.
Unfortunately Vamps none of us can pick and choose what is reported.......some good and some not so good.
People have a right to know about anything now, certainly with the freedom of information act.
Tell me would you have liked to have seen a system that did not let the public know about the MP's expenses fiddles?
If the media were to be gagged then things like that would never come to light, certainly not where politicians are concerned.
Unfortunately Vamps none of us can pick and choose what is reported.......some good and some not so good.
Will the council collect bins with cats in then?
Bluefish2009 wrote:
Will the council collect bins with cats in then?
Will the council collect bins with cats in then?
i like to give people the benefit of the doubt,something i have been warned about doing by friends many many times.The people who posted the clip on facebook say they only did so in the hope of identifying the woman.
i would like to believe they were simply naieve and are now horrified that this woman has recieved death threats.
Whatever their motives i would be interested to know whether they contacted the RSPCA/police first,which is undoubtedly what they should have done.
Kaznkev wrote:
i like to give people the benefit of the doubt,something i have been warned about doing by friends many many times.The people who posted the clip on facebook say they only did so in the hope of identifying the woman.
i would like to believe they were simply naieve and are now horrified that this woman has recieved death threats.
Whatever their motives i would be interested to know whether they contacted the RSPCA/police first,which is undoubtedly what they should have done.
Bluefish2009 wrote:
Will the council collect bins with cats in then?
Will the council collect bins with cats in then?
i like to give people the benefit of the doubt,something i have been warned about doing by friends many many times.The people who posted the clip on facebook say they only did so in the hope of identifying the woman.
i would like to believe they were simply naieve and are now horrified that this woman has recieved death threats.
Whatever their motives i would be interested to know whether they contacted the RSPCA/police first,which is undoubtedly what they should have done.
I personally dislike the the RSPCA with a Passion
kentswingers777 wrote:
Unfortunately Vamps that does not happen now.
People have a right to know about anything now, certainly with the freedom of information act.
Tell me would you have liked to have seen a system that did not let the public know about the MP's expenses fiddles?
If the media were to be gagged then things like that would never come to light, certainly not where politicians are concerned.
Unfortunately Vamps none of us can pick and choose what is reported.......some good and some not so good.
Unfortunately Vamps that does not happen now.
People have a right to know about anything now, certainly with the freedom of information act.
Tell me would you have liked to have seen a system that did not let the public know about the MP's expenses fiddles?
If the media were to be gagged then things like that would never come to light, certainly not where politicians are concerned.
Unfortunately Vamps none of us can pick and choose what is reported.......some good and some not so good.
Okk, yeah I appreciate what you're saying BUT when a woman gets threatened to the extent that she has it shows how off balance things are. I dont believe in media gagging either.... I dont know quite what the answer is. I just think trial by press is never fair and usually dangerous.
Bluefish2009 wrote:
I personally dislike the the RSPCA with a Passion
Kaznkev wrote:
i like to give people the benefit of the doubt,something i have been warned about doing by friends many many times.The people who posted the clip on facebook say they only did so in the hope of identifying the woman.
i would like to believe they were simply naieve and are now horrified that this woman has recieved death threats.
Whatever their motives i would be interested to know whether they contacted the RSPCA/police first,which is undoubtedly what they should have done.
Bluefish2009 wrote:
Will the council collect bins with cats in then?
Will the council collect bins with cats in then?
i like to give people the benefit of the doubt,something i have been warned about doing by friends many many times.The people who posted the clip on facebook say they only did so in the hope of identifying the woman.
i would like to believe they were simply naieve and are now horrified that this woman has recieved death threats.
Whatever their motives i would be interested to know whether they contacted the RSPCA/police first,which is undoubtedly what they should have done.
I personally dislike the the RSPCA with a Passion
Private eye has been following their "antics" shall we say closely for a number of years.However in this case i think they are the relevent authority to bring a prosecution.
