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Who says crime does not pay?

1st Sep 2010 - 7:28pm
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Well it seems that crime obviously does pay.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308039/Beggar-boasts-27-560-income.html


That is one of the reasons I never ever give to beggars, and my advice is never give to anyone begging in the street.

A poxy 100 quid fine?

Where is the nearest tube station? icon_lol.gif
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kentswingers777 wrote:

Well it seems that crime obviously does pay.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308039/Beggar-boasts-27-560-income.html


That is one of the reasons I never ever give to beggars, and my advice is never give to anyone begging in the street.

A poxy 100 quid fine?

Where is the nearest tube station? icon_lol.gif


A homeless man said upon occasion he made 40 to 50 pounds a day,that in no way justifies the headline.

 

1st Sep 2010 - 9:57pm
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If people want to help then why not give to the charities that help on the ground instead. Giving to the individual will put the money in the drug pushers pocket.

Dave_Notts

 

1st Sep 2010 - 10:01pm
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Dave__Notts wrote:

If people want to help then why not give to the charities that help on the ground instead. Giving to the individual will put the money in the drug pushers pocket.

Dave_Notts


Good suggestion, or buy the Big Issue. If you get to know the sellers you would spot any new ones just picking up spares to sell for drugs. The genuine sellers are clean and sober - they have ot be or they don't get to be sellers.

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 8:44am
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Dave__Notts wrote:

If people want to help then why not give to the charities that help on the ground instead. Giving to the individual will put the money in the drug pushers pocket.

Dave_Notts


Yes Davey have to agree.

I never give to scroungers and beggars on the street.

Whenever I see people doing that my first thought is...." go and get a fucking job ".

But why should they when they can scrounge off of decent people more money than they would earn working?

Plus it is relevant if the scrounger is also claiming benefits, or can he scrounge now as long as he does not scrounge for more than 16 hours a week? icon_twisted.gif

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 9:11am
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kentswingers777 wrote:

Dave__Notts wrote:

If people want to help then why not give to the charities that help on the ground instead. Giving to the individual will put the money in the drug pushers pocket.

Dave_Notts


Yes Davey have to agree.

I never give to scroungers and beggars on the street.

Whenever I see people doing that my first thought is...." go and get a fucking job ".

But why should they when they can scrounge off of decent people more money than they would earn working?

Plus it is relevant if the scrounger is also claiming benefits, or can he scrounge now as long as he does not scrounge for more than 16 hours a week? icon_twisted.gif


Is that inclusive of Statutory Holidays and pro-rate annual leave payments in lieu?

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 1:04pm
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Fuck that was funny GNV. icon_lol.gif

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 1:07pm
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kentswingers777 wrote:

Fuck that was funny GNV. icon_lol.gif


A true European now eh? icon_wink.gif

Only go on strike on the Monday and Tuesday after a Friday BH as it extends your holiday!

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 3:44pm
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Another hate figure in the popular press huh. No benefit scroungers this week then or politicians who like man lust. Ah well there is always tomorrow.

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 4:12pm
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La le la le la le la....... icon_lol.gif


Just for you then Benny......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308334/Funeral-director-sick-walk-fined-filmed-leading-corteges.html

Why wait for tomorrow when today is good enough. icon_lol.gif

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 4:51pm
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kentswingers777 wrote:

La le la le la le la....... icon_lol.gif


Just for you then Benny......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308334/Funeral-director-sick-walk-fined-filmed-leading-corteges.html

Why wait for tomorrow when today is good enough. icon_lol.gif


Oh look......a scrounging small businessman.....would you adam and eve it. Perhaps all small businessmen are scrounging, no-good for nothings.

Thanks for linking that Kenny. Now using your broad sweep, then that means all small businessmen are scroungers? dunno.gif

Dave_Notts

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 5:06pm
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Dave__Notts wrote:

kentswingers777 wrote:

La le la le la le la....... icon_lol.gif


Just for you then Benny......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308334/Funeral-director-sick-walk-fined-filmed-leading-corteges.html

Why wait for tomorrow when today is good enough. icon_lol.gif


Oh look......a scrounging small businessman.....would you adam and eve it. Perhaps all small businessmen are scrounging, no-good for nothings.

Thanks for linking that Kenny. Now using your broad sweep, then that means all small businessmen are scroungers? dunno.gif

Dave_Notts


Not sure about the business man, but the one in the carriage aint looking so good icon_wink.gif Got me doubts he will ever walk again dunno.gif

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 5:40pm
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Bluefish2009 wrote:


Not sure about the business man, but the one in the carriage aint looking so good icon_wink.gif Got me doubts he will ever walk again dunno.gif


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Dave_Notts

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 6:38pm
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I wouldn't be so sure about that if I were you

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 6:41pm
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Staggerlee_BB wrote:

I wouldn't be so sure about that if I were you


Ah Dorset girls, I love em!

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 7:14pm
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Staggerlee_BB wrote:

I wouldn't be so sure about that if I were you


She has a fantastic manicurist! Those nails would look much better in a rich red though icon_lol.gif

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 9:17pm
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I haven't read the article and won't - media always pick up on the negative no matter what or whom its about.

As for street people - I have to say I haven't met a nicer bunch of polite people. Take the time to get to know them and your rewarded with a smile/good morning/help if needed etc You get the odd ones who aren't very nice but you get them in all walks of life.

Some are begging for money that is used for drugs yes, I won't depute that. Many aren't tho!

Some of these guys/women's life stories are horrendous, they die young and usually alone, its rare for anyone to attend their funerals, nobody picks up their ashes - they aren't missed! The funeral service is a few minutes and first on the list at 9am - if nobody turns up its a few words and the button pressed, forgotten forever. If they are in a hostel - not even a staff member attends. Most of the time any family they have don't know they have died. We have had 12 deaths in the local hostel this year - if it was a care home it would be investigated. Because they are street drinkers/users/big issue sellers etc its ignored!

We have a number that work voluntary with us doing odd jobs etc in return for being treated with respect, tea on tap, lunch, and to feel accepted and a part of society. They are a few rules, don't turn up drunk, stoned or with a can/bottle of drink etc. It keeps them off the streets doing something worthwhile and they turn up on time, normally before I'm in icon_confused.gif icon_confused.gif

Some truly want to turn their lives around and aren't always given the opportunity because they are seen as the dregs of society.

Don't write them all off because of one headline, they are some good people out there! Next time you see someone begging - smile and say good morning instead of walking by!

 

2nd Sep 2010 - 9:52pm
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Food for thought Anais. Its good to be reminded.

 

3rd Sep 2010 - 8:40am
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Anais,

Hi Kev here,I read this thread with a growing sinking feeling,the usual knee jerk reactions to those who have already hit rock bottom.Your post was a beacon of humanity .
To those who could never imagine themselves in this situation,neither could most rough sleepers.No one starts as a child thinking i want to be a drug user,prostitute ,rough sleeper,victim of assault.
Whether people give money is a personal decision,i do, but giving respect costs nothing.

I will now return to keyboard to its usual owner!
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