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28th Mar 2009 - 1:50pm
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ive set all mine to private, so i dont think they can be tagged by anyone, including myself. although im not sure once i send a invite if that person can then tag? but then if they do id know it was them? how can you see what tag a photo has?

there is already a 18+ tag, well its in the place where you load your pics, but i think that admin who tag it as that not you?

safe bet shove them all into private, if someones interested enough they will message me to ask what i look like. or i expect we will get a more detailed description section soon?

im waitig on the vote to remove free memberships from before the takeover. icon_confused.gif

xx fem xx

 

29th Mar 2009 - 12:35pm
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I don't in any shape or form for my pictures to be tagged by anybody apart from myself. In the past I have had comments about me being a BBW, and although I am proud of being one, It's my choice to tag myself, and not for other people to do it.

The majority of people on here are very nice, but there are a few "twats" who ruin in for the rest.

So all my pics are now private, and will stay like it until the "tagging" is taken off, or until my sub runs out, which ever first.

Not happy with this at all. icon_evil.gif

 

29th Mar 2009 - 2:26pm
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fem_4_taboo wrote:

ive set all mine to private, so i dont think they can be tagged by anyone, including myself. although im not sure once i send a invite if that person can then tag? but then if they do id know it was them? how can you see what tag a photo has?

there is already a 18+ tag, well its in the place where you load your pics, but i think that admin who tag it as that not you?

safe bet shove them all into private, if someones interested enough they will message me to ask what i look like. or i expect we will get a more detailed description section soon?

im waitig on the vote to remove free memberships from before the takeover. icon_confused.gif

xx fem xx


Thanks for that fem, and yes as you say admin / mods tag the pics as 18+ if needed but we have put pics up before and they have not been tagged as 18+ when we feel they should have. I am all for the protection of the young.

Tagging the pics as 18+ also stops non paying members from viewing the pics as well, and it would be good to have that option when we upload pics.


Ste

 

29th Mar 2009 - 2:35pm
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yes i totally agree, face pics are not 18 +, i dont mind members knowing what i look like,but i dont want minors ( not because i think im horror ugly to be rated 18 lol)or non members to see me. the only option is to keep it private.

i dont want to sound discriminatory, but then any tagging /labeling could be seen as that, but there are so many black/white rooms etc why isnt that a option in the search or tag facility?

ok before im jumped on, i know some dont want to be known for being black or white, but maybe i dont wann be tagged as bi or bbw?

xx fem xx

 

29th Mar 2009 - 3:11pm
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heu..are you saying there are minors on this website?

I believe the +18 tag is there mainly to indicate a mature content..intercourse or the like, as opposed to bodyshots or facepics of whatever nature

 

29th Mar 2009 - 3:15pm
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noo, they wouldnt let minor join, but some probally do lol,but minors can view the site the threads etc without having to log in.

xx fem xx

 

29th Mar 2009 - 3:29pm
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I see

 

29th Mar 2009 - 5:15pm
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Martin_M wrote:

So what is your thoughts on how the forum vote will turn out?.

New software

VB
IPB
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Keep it as it is?

I have no idea what way that will go giveup.gif


After getting over a Heart attack this thread has brought a smile to my face.

Can I add one more to your list above icon_question.gif >>>>

DDBD:- It's a management thing.

And you managed in a very subtle way to change the main subject :- Well Done.

medic_1

 

29th Mar 2009 - 10:07pm
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fem_4_taboo wrote:

noo, they wouldnt let minor join, but some probally do lol,but minors can view the site the threads etc without having to log in.

xx fem xx


Then how would having a 18+ tag stop them seeing it? It's a label on the pic, it has no way of seeing the age of the person looking at it.

I'm an old member from pre-pay-time. Does that mean I can't see 18+ tagged pictures?

 

29th Mar 2009 - 10:43pm
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no if its got 18 + tag then it wont be in the gallery for non members to see, or viewable on my profile.

but from what i gather non members can no longer view all the gallery, just a tease front page.

xx fem xx

 

29th Mar 2009 - 10:57pm
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fem_4_taboo wrote:

ive set all mine to private, so i dont think they can be tagged by anyone, including myself. although im not sure once i send a invite if that person can then tag? but then if they do id know it was them? how can you see what tag a photo has?

there is already a 18+ tag, well its in the place where you load your pics, but i think that admin who tag it as that not you?

safe bet shove them all into private, if someones interested enough they will message me to ask what i look like. or i expect we will get a more detailed description section soon?

im waitig on the vote to remove free memberships from before the takeover. icon_confused.gif

xx fem xx


I've moved all my pictures to private as well what is the point of us doing the work for the site, if you want to have a select people rate them like mods then fine, but I aint having everyone else do it.

 

29th Mar 2009 - 11:04pm
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admin wrote:

The idea behind the system is so you can browse the photos that you want to.

The 1-10 scale isn't a rating, it's the quality of the image not the content. The data will be used to display the clearer better quality of images first, with the blurry ones at the back of the search query after we get the new search implemented.

The categories that the images are tagged into will be used to filter the images that you want to see e.g. if you are a couple looking for another couple, living 30 miles away, and not wanting to see cock shots, the new search will be able to meet that criteria. Currently the gallery has nil functionality or use for any thing other than looking at pictures, Russian Roulette style.

Currently there are nearly half a million photos that need to be categorised before any new relevant search can be implemented. We are actively encouraging users to tag their own photos that are uploaded and there will be an announcement on your homepage in the next few days.

Swinging Heaven is looking for ways to make all areas of the site more relevant and usable for the members. Our goal is continual improvement and listening to our member feedback. In the recent site surveys, a relevant image search was one of the top three points that our member base was asking for. As you are aware there are a large number of site improvements being worked on at the moment that will be rolled out over the next 18 months.


So I understand its so you can search on photos by distance from you as well as various other things, wouldnt it be better to improve the search engine on here first as I wouldnt want to search someone just by pictures, I can see them when I look on profiles.

 

29th Mar 2009 - 11:13pm
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soul_girl wrote:

fem_4_taboo wrote:

ive set all mine to private, so i dont think they can be tagged by anyone, including myself. although im not sure once i send a invite if that person can then tag? but then if they do id know it was them? how can you see what tag a photo has?

there is already a 18+ tag, well its in the place where you load your pics, but i think that admin who tag it as that not you?

safe bet shove them all into private, if someones interested enough they will message me to ask what i look like. or i expect we will get a more detailed description section soon?

im waitig on the vote to remove free memberships from before the takeover. icon_confused.gif

xx fem xx


I've moved all my pictures to private as well what is the point of us doing the work for the site, if you want to have a select people rate them like mods then fine, but I aint having everyone else do it.


This point has already been answered previously and is on your home page

"If you tag your own then your classification will be the ones used NOT any public tags."

So no-one else will be tagging yours if you have already done it!
They are only asking you to help out with the pics of members who rarely log in and to help the site, you know, like give a little back? If you don't wish to do anyone elses, that's fine, just leave them and carry on using the site as you have been previously and let those who are prepared to help, help.

The search engine is being improved, but it wont be launched until later in the year. It will only be as accurate as the information it can search on, hence the request (not an order) for people to help gather this information.

I hope that helps you understand their request.

Mal

 

29th Mar 2009 - 11:25pm
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admin wrote:

The idea behind the system is so you can browse the photos that you want to.

The 1-10 scale isn't a rating, it's the quality of the image not the content. The data will be used to display the clearer better quality of images first, with the blurry ones at the back of the search query after we get the new search implemented.

Swinging Heaven is looking for ways to make all areas of the site more relevant and usable for the members. Our goal is continual improvement and listening to our member feedback. In the recent site surveys, a relevant image search was one of the top three points that our member base was asking for.


I've snipped a fair bit for space - not to skew the argument.

I'm sorry, but does ANYONE actually believe this - - - "The 1-10 scale isn't a rating, it's the quality of the image not the content." is what will happen? I certainly don't.

I agree a relevant search that includes or is based on what images are available is needed - but a subjective judgment on quality (be it subject or image quality) is wholly inappropriate. The people making these value judgments are not monitored, guided or even asked to justify their judgments and - as far as I have understood - their input is entirely anonymous. Validation is bad enough - anonymous validation (by any other name) is unacceptable.

If admin want to have everyone put their images in private galleries so no-one gets to see them without an invite, they have done exactly the right thing.

I have never cared who looked at my pictures - I have none in private galleries, but I will be spending the night working out how to put them in a private gallery. I also wish to be informed how to remove the tags that are already on them. Or is being the public subject of other people's anonymous judgments mandatory now?

Frankly the more I think about this, the angrier I get.

 

29th Mar 2009 - 11:28pm
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Mal wrote:






"If you tag your own then your classification will be the ones used NOT any public tags."

So no-one else will be tagging yours if you have already done it!


Mal


this is why I'm not bothered in the slightest.

 

29th Mar 2009 - 11:29pm
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But hang on I dont mind my photos being in the public gallery and I know people can view them all and it might take hours to find ours on there, and I dont mind them being viewed by my profile, but I dont want people then being able to search for people by my photos on how far away they are from me.

For one I would like the system to be sorted so the pictures collectors can not download any pictures from the site for a start.

And I have tagged some of the pictures on our soul_girl accounts, then went onto our soul_boy account and viewed the pictures on soul_girl account and I could tag them again through soul_boy account.

I think our pictures will be staying in private for now.

 

29th Mar 2009 - 11:48pm
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Ok, having trawled through some of the hundreds of posts on this I found a comment about tagging yourself stops anyone else doing it? I may have interpreted that wrongly.

Well I did that.

Is there a place where the tagging this is explained? Not just how to do it, but the implications of it all?

It seems the only information about it is scattered through this thread. And a lot of the comments (including my own) are based on speculation and rumour for lack of specific information.

 

29th Mar 2009 - 11:58pm
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The thing i dont understand is this, why are admin encouraging picture collectors and timewasters on the site?

The reason i say this is because i always thought this was a swinging site, a site were people could find like minded people to enjoy consenting adult fun. Not a site where you come to browse amature porn.
Like someone on here has already commented pics are far to easily taken from the site, making it a picture collectors paradise, and now we want to catagorise each and every picture so that they can search and find what they want even more easily!

If anything we need a better profile search not a photo search. Firstly adding a logged in this week/fortnight/month so that we only bring up active members when searching. Also improving the search so it only gives the searcher results that they are compatable to...

E.G.

Single male searches for couples in a 30 mile radius... the search would only bring up couples who are looking for single men who live within that distance. Therefor helping to cut down unwanted messages from those who dont bother reading profiles or just chance their hands...

If you really wanted to go whole hog you could go into more detail such as personal preferences - age range, race, size, full/soft swap etc

I dont see how catagorising pictures helps in any way, the information people need to know about whoever is in the pictures should be in the profile... if anything admin should restrict access to the site to all those who have not filled in their profile that would be far more benificial.

 

30th Mar 2009 - 12:26am
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two-4-more wrote:

The thing i dont understand is this, why are admin encouraging picture collectors and timewasters on the site?

The reason i say this is because i always thought this was a swinging site, a site were people could find like minded people to enjoy consenting adult fun. Not a site where you come to browse amature porn.
Like someone on here has already commented pics are far to easily taken from the site, making it a picture collectors paradise, and now we want to catagorise each and every picture so that they can search and find what they want even more easily!

If anything we need a better profile search not a photo search. Firstly adding a logged in this week/fortnight/month so that we only bring up active members when searching. Also improving the search so it only gives the searcher results that they are compatable to...

E.G.

Single male searches for couples in a 30 mile radius... the search would only bring up couples who are looking for single men who live within that distance. Therefor helping to cut down unwanted messages from those who dont bother reading profiles or just chance their hands...

If you really wanted to go whole hog you could go into more detail such as personal preferences - age range, race, size, full/soft swap etc

I dont see how catagorising pictures helps in any way, the information people need to know about whoever is in the pictures should be in the profile... if anything admin should restrict access to the site to all those who have not filled in their profile that would be far more benificial.


Totally agree with your comments my friend icon_biggrin.gif

 

30th Mar 2009 - 8:13am
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I have tagged all my pictures, but it still says "help tag these pictures..." grr.

Please take this feature off!!!!!!


soul_girl wrote:

But hang on I dont mind my photos being in the public gallery and I know people can view them all and it might take hours to find ours on there, and I dont mind them being viewed by my profile, but I dont want people then being able to search for people by my photos on how far away they are from me.

For one I would like the system to be sorted so the pictures collectors can not download any pictures from the site for a start.

And I have tagged some of the pictures on our soul_girl accounts, then went onto our soul_boy account and viewed the pictures on soul_girl account and I could tag them again through soul_boy account.

I think our pictures will be staying in private for now.