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16th Jul 2009 - 11:19pm
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Not the first time swine flu has done the rounds and a vaccine was available back in the last 70's. Mind you - the vaccine killed more people than swine flu - I think...


The thing is I have no faith at all in the Government, and as always we are usually kept in the dark.

Remember the MMR jabs? All that scandal, yes Blair fuelled the flames by keeping quite as to if his kids were vacinated. By doing that a lot of people thought he had not had their kids done, so just added more fuel to the fires.

Swine flu is another thing that the Government choose to only let us know what they think we should know.
 

 

17th Jul 2009 - 12:15am
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I'm sure what I'm talking about is the US vaccine that killed people (I read a few of the US forums). Also I don't think they would be so daft to use the same one as the late 70's vaccine...

My sons friend has swine flu (quite a few round here have it) her baby was due today and she's taking tamiflu (sp?). Surely it wouldn't have been given it to a pregnant mother if they thought it may harm her or her unborn baby?

The government gives little information - perhaps because it panics people? I'm one of those who likes to have info so I can make an informed choice.

I heard on the radio today that 1 in 3 people will have it within the next 6months. Wonder if you can catch it twice?

I know what ya mean tho Kent - I ain't got much faith in government any more either - for a number of reasons!
 

 

17th Jul 2009 - 9:10am
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anais wrote:



My sons friend has swine flu (quite a few round here have it) her baby was due today and she's taking tamiflu (sp?). Surely it wouldn't have been given it to a pregnant mother if they thought it may harm her or her unborn baby?





Listening to a Doctor on GMTV this morning Tamiflu should not be given to pregnant women icon_eek.gif
There is another vacine (the name escapes me at present) that is taken via an inhaler that is safe for pregnant women to use...
 

 

17th Jul 2009 - 9:23am
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Steve wrote:

anais wrote:



My sons friend has swine flu (quite a few round here have it) her baby was due today and she's taking tamiflu (sp?). Surely it wouldn't have been given it to a pregnant mother if they thought it may harm her or her unborn baby?





Listening to a Doctor on GMTV this morning Tamiflu should not be given to pregnant women icon_eek.gif
There is another vacine (the name escapes me at present) that is taken via an inhaler that is safe for pregnant women to use...
Nether are vaccines. Tamiflu is a drug and works only while present in the body. It does not create anti-bodies as a vaccine does. It works well against flu viruses, if given early enough.

Like all drugs it has side effects!
 

 

17th Jul 2009 - 10:46am
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t.mann wrote:

Steve wrote:

anais wrote:



My sons friend has swine flu (quite a few round here have it) her baby was due today and she's taking tamiflu (sp?). Surely it wouldn't have been given it to a pregnant mother if they thought it may harm her or her unborn baby?





Listening to a Doctor on GMTV this morning Tamiflu should not be given to pregnant women icon_eek.gif
There is another vacine (the name escapes me at present) that is taken via an inhaler that is safe for pregnant women to use...
Nether are vaccines. Tamiflu is a drug and works only while present in the body. It does not create anti-bodies as a vaccine does. It works well against flu viruses, if given early enough.

Like all drugs it has side effects!





I'll call them medication then if it suits icon_rolleyes.gif

The fact still remains that Tamiflu it was said should not be given to expectant mothers....
 

 

20th Jul 2009 - 9:13pm
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If ladies get it is it sow flu?
 

 

20th Jul 2009 - 9:25pm
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Steve wrote:

Listening to a Doctor on GMTV this morning Tamiflu should not be given to pregnant women icon_eek.gif
There is another vacine (the name escapes me at present) that is taken via an inhaler that is safe for pregnant women to use...

That'll be Relenza then! thumbup.gif

To be honest, after what I saw tonight I doubt if they'll be able to stop H1N1 spreading to everyone. I decided to treat the family to a takeaway burger for tea. When my order arrived I asked them to replace the drinks and chips. They gave me a really weird look, until I explained to the manager that the person who packed them was the same person who was working the till and handling the cash! Money is one of the worst germ carriers, and how many people think of washing their hands every time they handle it? Not the little toe rag in my local burger bar! icon_mad.gif
 

 

20th Jul 2009 - 9:27pm
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Steve wrote:

t.mann wrote:

Steve wrote:

anais wrote:



My sons friend has swine flu (quite a few round here have it) her baby was due today and she's taking tamiflu (sp?). Surely it wouldn't have been given it to a pregnant mother if they thought it may harm her or her unborn baby?





Listening to a Doctor on GMTV this morning Tamiflu should not be given to pregnant women icon_eek.gif
There is another vacine (the name escapes me at present) that is taken via an inhaler that is safe for pregnant women to use...
Nether are vaccines. Tamiflu is a drug and works only while present in the body. It does not create anti-bodies as a vaccine does. It works well against flu viruses, if given early enough.

Like all drugs it has side effects!





I'll call them medication then if it suits icon_rolleyes.gif

The fact still remains that Tamiflu it was said should not be given to expectant mothers....


I do believe that once upon a time, the government said said Thalidomide was safe.
 

 

21st Jul 2009 - 8:37am
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people say the normal flu vac gives u flu .... it cannot.

I attended an official nhs lecture last week this is what was said


30 - 50 % of people in uk will contract swine flu before october

The fit and healthy population should cope well with a mild dose however the weak, ill, old and very young will have more trouble with it


a vaccine is available and should be rolled out from august. NHS staff will have the priority vaccine, then the ill, old and young then everyone else.

Things change rapidly because the virus mutates.

Much beyond that is guess work.
 

 

21st Jul 2009 - 8:46am
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people say the normal flu vac gives u flu .... it cannot.





For the last 3 yrs I have had the flu jab from my GP...

Every year without fail I get knocked off my feet and laid up in bed with flu.....

This year I didn't have the jab despite the surgery practically begging me to have it and guess what.....


Not so much as a sniffle icon_wink.gif
 

 

21st Jul 2009 - 9:53am
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I rarely get colds, but was laid out for over a week with the 'flu a few years back over chrimbo. It bought on a nasty chest infection, and rarely suffered from asthma...I almost ended up in hospital.

Next year, I was offered the 'jab, and took it. I was bloody unwell afterwards- milder symptoms, but definately 'flu like. I've not had the jab since, and not had a problem.

I understand the science, but the anecdotal evidence didn't half use a load of lemsip..
 

 

21st Jul 2009 - 1:03pm
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i think people can get mixed up with the common cold and a sever bout of flu.

What they say the flu vac prevents is a severe dose of flu which is very unpleasant and can kill weaker members of society.
 

 

21st Jul 2009 - 1:50pm
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midsprincess wrote:

i think people can get mixed up with the common cold and a sever bout of flu.

What they say the flu vac prevents is a severe dose of flu which is very unpleasant and can kill weaker members of society.




A common cold doesn't put me in bed for a week.....Flu does....
 

 

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Steve wrote:

midsprincess wrote:

people say the normal flu vac gives u flu .... it cannot.





For the last 3 yrs I have had the flu jab from my GP...

Every year without fail I get knocked off my feet and laid up in bed with flu.....

This year I didn't have the jab despite the surgery practically begging me to have it and guess what.....


Not so much as a sniffle icon_wink.gif

Maybe its because they get "Brownie" points (or a Brucie bonus) when they jab someone dunno.gif
 

 

21st Jul 2009 - 2:29pm
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Maybe its because they get "Brownie" points (or a Brucie bonus) when they jab someone dunno.gif




Without a doubt....
 

 

21st Jul 2009 - 8:34pm
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i am motivated to work for money

mr sainsbury didnt give away eggs he charged for them


ford motors charge u to have one of their cars

naomi campbell is paid for her pics

the bin men dont empty the bins for free

does your business run on fresh air

GP's have to earn a living too.
 

 

21st Jul 2009 - 9:38pm
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for those concerned about symptoms, here is a simple click-test.
lp
 

 

22nd Jul 2009 - 10:32am
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__random_orbit__ wrote:

for those concerned about symptoms, here is a simple click-test.
lp


rotflmao.gif rotflmao.gif rotflmao.gif rotflmao.gif
 

 

23rd Jul 2009 - 10:53am
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midsprincess wrote:

i am motivated to work for money

mr sainsbury didnt give away eggs he charged for them


ford motors charge u to have one of their cars

naomi campbell is paid for her pics

the bin men dont empty the bins for free

does your business run on fresh air

GP's have to earn a living too.




And I've yet to see a poor one icon_wink.gif
 

 

23rd Jul 2009 - 10:55am
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Steve wrote:

midsprincess wrote:

i am motivated to work for money

mr sainsbury didnt give away eggs he charged for them


ford motors charge u to have one of their cars

naomi campbell is paid for her pics

the bin men dont empty the bins for free

does your business run on fresh air

GP's have to earn a living too.




And I've yet to see a poor one icon_wink.gif


I thought a doctor classed him/herself as poor if they earned less than 125 grand a year. icon_wink.gif
 
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