I think that whilst sex is likely to manifest itself in the lives of children, it tends to be an occasional thing which passes by and comes around as if by chance. It retains its 'innocence', which I think is appropriate for children. So it doesn't linger.
But to establish it at 5, might produce sensible kids, but they may well suffer from sexual frustration from an early age. This has never been necessary for any child.
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little gem wrote:
Post response times!
Just check the response times of both & compare!
Kaz,
FB... well, how very dare you make your fifth spelling mistake on-line in, oooh, about five years! Tut! 
Anyway. Back to the matter in hand. Sex Ed is being taught whether anyone likes it or not.
Has one not seen music videos? Or magazines with a 'position of the fortnight' or problem pages? Mates with older siblings. The internet. Get real. Kids are taught about sex/sexuality all the time from the things/people around them, subliminally or directly. A lot of that information is partial, incorrect, fleeting or glamorised.
Short of putting them in an isolated cardboard box until they are 21 the information will get in there regardless of whether you want it to or not.
So, in that case, seeing as our kids are going to get information anyway, might as well make sure that information is accurate, balanced and complete.
Make sure the information is correct so then our young people aren't done a disservice by allowing them to think they can't get pregnant standing up, they can't get pregnant in the shower, they can't get pregnant the first time, they can't get pregnant by being poked in the belly button, that babies come from storks on doorsteps.
LG. x
Post response times!
Just check the response times of both & compare!
Kaz,
FB... well, how very dare you make your fifth spelling mistake on-line in, oooh, about five years! Tut!
Anyway. Back to the matter in hand. Sex Ed is being taught whether anyone likes it or not.
Has one not seen music videos? Or magazines with a 'position of the fortnight' or problem pages? Mates with older siblings. The internet. Get real. Kids are taught about sex/sexuality all the time from the things/people around them, subliminally or directly. A lot of that information is partial, incorrect, fleeting or glamorised.
Short of putting them in an isolated cardboard box until they are 21 the information will get in there regardless of whether you want it to or not.
So, in that case, seeing as our kids are going to get information anyway, might as well make sure that information is accurate, balanced and complete.
Make sure the information is correct so then our young people aren't done a disservice by allowing them to think they can't get pregnant standing up, they can't get pregnant in the shower, they can't get pregnant the first time, they can't get pregnant by being poked in the belly button, that babies come from storks on doorsteps.
LG. xUnlike your good self...FB will have understood the humour in my comment.
kentswingers777 wrote:
Unlike your good self...FB will have understood the humour in my comment.
little gem wrote:
Post response times! Just check the response times of both & compare!
Kaz, FB... well, how very dare you make your fifth spelling mistake on-line in, oooh, about five years! Tut!
Anyway. Back to the matter in hand. Sex Ed is being taught whether anyone likes it or not.
Has one not seen music videos? Or magazines with a 'position of the fortnight' or problem pages? Mates with older siblings. The internet. Get real. Kids are taught about sex/sexuality all the time from the things/people around them, subliminally or directly. A lot of that information is partial, incorrect, fleeting or glamorised.
Short of putting them in an isolated cardboard box until they are 21 the information will get in there regardless of whether you want it to or not.
So, in that case, seeing as our kids are going to get information anyway, might as well make sure that information is accurate, balanced and complete.
Make sure the information is correct so then our young people aren't done a disservice by allowing them to think they can't get pregnant standing up, they can't get pregnant in the shower, they can't get pregnant the first time, they can't get pregnant by being poked in the belly button, that babies come from storks on doorsteps.
LG. x
Post response times!
Just check the response times of both & compare!
Kaz,
FB... well, how very dare you make your fifth spelling mistake on-line in, oooh, about five years! Tut!
Anyway. Back to the matter in hand. Sex Ed is being taught whether anyone likes it or not.
Has one not seen music videos? Or magazines with a 'position of the fortnight' or problem pages? Mates with older siblings. The internet. Get real. Kids are taught about sex/sexuality all the time from the things/people around them, subliminally or directly. A lot of that information is partial, incorrect, fleeting or glamorised.
Short of putting them in an isolated cardboard box until they are 21 the information will get in there regardless of whether you want it to or not.
So, in that case, seeing as our kids are going to get information anyway, might as well make sure that information is accurate, balanced and complete.
Make sure the information is correct so then our young people aren't done a disservice by allowing them to think they can't get pregnant standing up, they can't get pregnant in the shower, they can't get pregnant the first time, they can't get pregnant by being poked in the belly button, that babies come from storks on doorsteps.
LG. xUnlike your good self...FB will have understood the humour in my comment.
Kent, Gem will have seen the humour.
I think it's actually about 20 mistakes now, if we include the spelling challenge thingy from years ago
Give yourself a 100 lines FB...
Must try harder.
Can you try harder FB?
Must try harder.
Can you try harder FB?
Ok I really hate this subject on sex education. I am a youth worker and just as teachers, when we do sex ed sessions we have to follow a 'script' for want of a better word and I hate it because what we are teaching our children and young people is so wrong !!!
As the appropriate adults we are to tell our children and young people that we should only have sex when we are in a safe, loving and secure relationship. Yeah tell that to a 15 yr old girl who truly believes they are in love with an 18 yr old boy who we all know only wants his 15yr old girlfriend to have a quick grope on a park bench somewhere. I once had a fantastic guy come and do a sex ed session in my youth club once and he totally changed my outlook on the whole issue. Basically the way we should be teaching our younger generation is yes of course being in a safe, secure and loving relationship before having sex is fantastic, but with the pregnancy rates so high and the higher rates of STI's. shouldnt we be more proactive in encouraging safe sex. Too many teenagers are having '1 night stands' in today's society and unfortunately I really dont think we can stop that, but lets work to prevent the consequences and be open and honest with the kids.
As to what age we shhould be discussing sex with our children I'm sitting on the fence. As a mother of 4 (3 boys 12, 7 and 5 and a daughter, 10), I'll discuss it with them when they are ready and none of them are yet...ok maybe my 12 year old but there a birds fly and bees sting issue there so he has to talk to his dad or my ex boyfriend coz we always burst out laughing with each other (long story lol)
As the appropriate adults we are to tell our children and young people that we should only have sex when we are in a safe, loving and secure relationship. Yeah tell that to a 15 yr old girl who truly believes they are in love with an 18 yr old boy who we all know only wants his 15yr old girlfriend to have a quick grope on a park bench somewhere. I once had a fantastic guy come and do a sex ed session in my youth club once and he totally changed my outlook on the whole issue. Basically the way we should be teaching our younger generation is yes of course being in a safe, secure and loving relationship before having sex is fantastic, but with the pregnancy rates so high and the higher rates of STI's. shouldnt we be more proactive in encouraging safe sex. Too many teenagers are having '1 night stands' in today's society and unfortunately I really dont think we can stop that, but lets work to prevent the consequences and be open and honest with the kids.
As to what age we shhould be discussing sex with our children I'm sitting on the fence. As a mother of 4 (3 boys 12, 7 and 5 and a daughter, 10), I'll discuss it with them when they are ready and none of them are yet...ok maybe my 12 year old but there a birds fly and bees sting issue there so he has to talk to his dad or my ex boyfriend coz we always burst out laughing with each other (long story lol)
Plimboy wrote:
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Kaznkev wrote:
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Plimboy wrote:
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Ah, things are better then than in my days as a parent of young people.
Plim
Plimboy wrote:
Ah, things are better then than in my days as a parent of young people.
Plim
Kaznkev wrote:
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Plimboy wrote:
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Ah, things are better then than in my days as a parent of young people.
Plim
indeed,a gd example was my lads recent psrs homework,girl goes to disco with one lad,but leaves with a different one,he had to consider how each party would feel,and how the girls parents would feel about her having boyfriends.
We discovered he is a budding romantic as he said the girl should follow her heart as you cant help who u love.
personally i think we missed the ideal opportunity to bring up poly relationships
Plimboy wrote:
Ah, things are better then than in my days as a parent of young people.
Plim
Kaznkev wrote:
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Plimboy wrote:
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Ah, things are better then than in my days as a parent of young people.
Plim
Sex education at my (grammar school for gels) school consisted entrirely of drawing the reproductive organs of a rabbit. Of course, the fact that one of the girls studying it was already pregnant was studiously ignored by the staff. It was utterly pathetic and it was in the 80's ffs! My son's was far better, but we were discussing it at home too.
foxylady2209 wrote:
Sex education at my (grammar school for gels) school consisted entrirely of drawing the reproductive organs of a rabbit. Of course, the fact that one of the girls studying it was already pregnant was studiously ignored by the staff. It was utterly pathetic and it was in the 80's ffs! My son's was far better, but we were discussing it at home too.
Plimboy wrote:
Ah, things are better then than in my days as a parent of young people.
Plim
Kaznkev wrote:
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Plimboy wrote:
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Ah, things are better then than in my days as a parent of young people.
Plim
Sex education at my (grammar school for gels) school consisted entrirely of drawing the reproductive organs of a rabbit. Of course, the fact that one of the girls studying it was already pregnant was studiously ignored by the staff. It was utterly pathetic and it was in the 80's ffs! My son's was far better, but we were discussing it at home too.
That may well be the case but............were the pregnancy rates not lower then?
I think suprisingly enough they were, which begs the question can too much information be a good thing?
Not into todays Britain where we have the highest teenage pregnancy rates in the Western world.................sorry but a fact.
kentswingers777 wrote:
That may well be the case but............were the pregnancy rates not lower then?
I think suprisingly enough they were, which begs the question can too much information be a good thing?
Not into todays Britain where we have the highest teenage pregnancy rates in the Western world.................sorry but a fact.
foxylady2209 wrote:
Sex education at my (grammar school for gels) school consisted entrirely of drawing the reproductive organs of a rabbit. Of course, the fact that one of the girls studying it was already pregnant was studiously ignored by the staff. It was utterly pathetic and it was in the 80's ffs! My son's was far better, but we were discussing it at home too.
Plimboy wrote:
Ah, things are better then than in my days as a parent of young people.
Plim
Kaznkev wrote:
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Plimboy wrote:
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
There is another dimension to this one. I believe that sex education in schools deals with the "Science" of the matter - but there's also the social skills that's needed to get to that situation!
Plim
plim , the science is only one aspect,and there is equal emphasis on developing the maturity and awareness kids need
Ah, things are better then than in my days as a parent of young people.
Plim
Sex education at my (grammar school for gels) school consisted entrirely of drawing the reproductive organs of a rabbit. Of course, the fact that one of the girls studying it was already pregnant was studiously ignored by the staff. It was utterly pathetic and it was in the 80's ffs! My son's was far better, but we were discussing it at home too.
That may well be the case but............were the pregnancy rates not lower then?
I think suprisingly enough they were, which begs the question can too much information be a good thing?
Not into todays Britain where we have the highest teenage pregnancy rates in the Western world.................sorry but a fact.
So is that fact that Denmark has MORE sex education and a LOWER pregnancy rate. So maybe it's the quality of information and not the amount. Or maybe it's something else - like an expectation that parents take responsiblity for their offspring's behaviour and that the youndgsters are encouraged to have self-respect. That's the real respect not the knuckle-touching, 'yo dude' respc' crap you see on TV.
Seriously you think that more information is a bad thing? Really?
Yes I do on occasion.
Are you denying our pregnancy rates in the uk?
Are you denying our pregnancy rates in the uk?
kentswingers777 wrote:
Yes I do on occasion.
Are you denying our pregnancy rates in the uk?
Yes I do on occasion.
Are you denying our pregnancy rates in the uk?
No. Are you denying them elsewhere?
foxylady2209 wrote:
No. Are you denying them elsewhere?
kentswingers777 wrote:
Yes I do on occasion.
Are you denying our pregnancy rates in the uk?
Yes I do on occasion.
Are you denying our pregnancy rates in the uk?
No. Are you denying them elsewhere?
they are foreign,and therefore cannot be trusted,the fact teen pregnancy rates are falling is obviously irrelevant to this thread
With all the money spent and all the sex education they are getting now, the Governments own figures will fall far short of what they were trying to accomplish.
Hardly a success story........... is it?
Hardly a success story........... is it?
