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27th Feb 2010 - 11:03pm
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Lost wrote:

anais wrote:

Scary story lost....

If your having casual sex/one offs etc, its still the responsibility of each individual to ensure protection is being used for their own sexual health safety surely? If each person decides not to - who will be held responsible and accountable if something like the above happens in a swinging scenario? What if a person doesn't know they have HIV or another Sti? (yet)


If this is the case then why is the responsibility for "Unwanted" pregnancy shared equally between both partners?

Also the fact that there is the matter of cohersion into sex without protection. There are con men and women out there can talk people into doing things they shouldn't Yes OK in an equal world there is fairness but it aint an equal world. The woman in question had possibly been told that she was the only partner that it was safe that it was all OK and believed him. Why shouldn't she if she knew nothing but his supposed fidelity and honesty?

As for SH promoting sexual health? Well lets be honest it doesn't does it? Apart from a subtitle "Advice" under the information heading. In my mind that's not helping the people who are anti swinging understand that the swinging fraternity/sorority is sexually responsible and considerate is it? Why not a small banner saying this site promotes the idea of sexual well being and safety by advocating the use of condoms?



The idea that people who are 'anti swinging' will change their attitude because this site promotes sexual health is attractive, but unlikely. They'll still be anti swinging.

 

27th Feb 2010 - 11:08pm
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awayman wrote:

Lost wrote:

anais wrote:

Scary story lost....

If your having casual sex/one offs etc, its still the responsibility of each individual to ensure protection is being used for their own sexual health safety surely? If each person decides not to - who will be held responsible and accountable if something like the above happens in a swinging scenario? What if a person doesn't know they have HIV or another Sti? (yet)


If this is the case then why is the responsibility for "Unwanted" pregnancy shared equally between both partners?

Also the fact that there is the matter of cohersion into sex without protection. There are con men and women out there can talk people into doing things they shouldn't Yes OK in an equal world there is fairness but it aint an equal world. The woman in question had possibly been told that she was the only partner that it was safe that it was all OK and believed him. Why shouldn't she if she knew nothing but his supposed fidelity and honesty?

As for SH promoting sexual health? Well lets be honest it doesn't does it? Apart from a subtitle "Advice" under the information heading. In my mind that's not helping the people who are anti swinging understand that the swinging fraternity/sorority is sexually responsible and considerate is it? Why not a small banner saying this site promotes the idea of sexual well being and safety by advocating the use of condoms?



The idea that people who are 'anti swinging' will change their attitude because this site promotes sexual health is attractive, but unlikely. They'll still be anti swinging.



Simply gives them a little bit less ammunition .

 

27th Feb 2010 - 11:12pm
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As may be the case but i still cant see it as a wrong thing to do. Though Plim is possibly on the button with business decisions blah de bloody blah

 

27th Feb 2010 - 11:23pm
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anais wrote:

kentswingers777 wrote:

Horses for courses I suppose.

I just gave my opinion on the bareback/pregnancy chat room.

Of course it is difficult to select what is and what is not acceptable. from the owners prospective on this site, but I have seen much sillier things not allowed.

On that note I am off on me bike, to blow a few cobwebs away, and of course to " try " and keep within reasonable speed limits. icon_wink.gif



Safe journey and enjoy Mr K - I'm sure you'll be using protection?
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Always wear protection ...me helmet. icon_wink.gif

 

27th Feb 2010 - 11:47pm
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flower411 wrote:

awayman wrote:

Lost wrote:

anais wrote:

Scary story lost....

If your having casual sex/one offs etc, its still the responsibility of each individual to ensure protection is being used for their own sexual health safety surely? If each person decides not to - who will be held responsible and accountable if something like the above happens in a swinging scenario? What if a person doesn't know they have HIV or another Sti? (yet)


If this is the case then why is the responsibility for "Unwanted" pregnancy shared equally between both partners?

Also the fact that there is the matter of cohersion into sex without protection. There are con men and women out there can talk people into doing things they shouldn't Yes OK in an equal world there is fairness but it aint an equal world. The woman in question had possibly been told that she was the only partner that it was safe that it was all OK and believed him. Why shouldn't she if she knew nothing but his supposed fidelity and honesty?

As for SH promoting sexual health? Well lets be honest it doesn't does it? Apart from a subtitle "Advice" under the information heading. In my mind that's not helping the people who are anti swinging understand that the swinging fraternity/sorority is sexually responsible and considerate is it? Why not a small banner saying this site promotes the idea of sexual well being and safety by advocating the use of condoms?



The idea that people who are 'anti swinging' will change their attitude because this site promotes sexual health is attractive, but unlikely. They'll still be anti swinging.

Simply gives them a little bit less ammunition .



The forces of moral rectitude have never lacked for ammunition, and if they do they make it up.

 

28th Feb 2010 - 6:57am
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awayman wrote:

The forces of moral rectitude have never lacked for ammunition, and if they do they make it up.


It had never occured to me before where being anal about stuff had come from !!

That`s made me giggle this morning icon_lol.gif

 

28th Feb 2010 - 6:28pm
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i think that if a person knowingly has sex with others while they have have they should be prosecuted with manslaughter. i don't think murder would stick as it's such a strange acting virus that doesn't act the same in each person. but they are effectively dishing out a death sentence to the person they are having sex with.

i can't see how it's the responsibility of sh to say to others what they can and can't do if it's a legal act. it's up to individuals to work out what they want to do about it. if someone has unprotected sex and catches an sti or gets pregnant then they can not turn round and say sh was at fault for not saying that they couldn't bareback. there will always be those who want to bareback and take the risks.

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