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Re: fat tax/smokers tax etc

28th Jul 2010 - 5:12pm
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brucie wrote:

should doctors/hospitals have the discretion of applying charges for treating people who smoke, are overweight or in any other way neglect their health? (feel free to include bikers etc.


Well this woman must have cost an absolute fortune for all the care she recieved...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3069973/Britains-fattest-woman-said-gastric-band-stopped-gorging.html
 

 

28th Jul 2010 - 5:59pm
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I reckon brucie's a closet fattie really
 

 

28th Jul 2010 - 7:42pm
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brucie will love this one then

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10789553
 

 

28th Jul 2010 - 9:25pm
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Fat or obese is all the same in most peoples book.

The obesity is becoming a huge problem, and now we have M and S offering clothes for kids starting school up to a 23 inch waist ffs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297465/23-inch-trousers-4-year-olds-M-S-super-size-uniforms.html

A four year old with a 23 inch waist? Shocking.
 

 

29th Jul 2010 - 8:26am
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kentswingers777 wrote:

Fat or obese is all the same in most peoples book.

The obesity is becoming a huge problem, and now we have M and S offering clothes for kids starting school up to a 23 inch waist ffs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297465/23-inch-trousers-4-year-olds-M-S-super-size-uniforms.html

A four year old with a 23 inch waist? Shocking.


i spend a few months of the year in rural france and must admit i see very little if any problems with obesity maybe gnv might see more evidence than me

i do believe its our culture of fast food and places like iceland where nutritional value food is of no importance

i`m glad to say all our children eat proper meals and rarely eat takeaways or fast food
 

 

29th Jul 2010 - 9:34am
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So many overweight people are just unable to accept that losing weight is not about dieting but changing their lifestyle. Diets dont work because they suggest a temporary state of events. Waking up one morning and being committed to make a change for the rest of your life is something completely different to going on a diet.

I was 76Kgs average in my 20's in the Army and fighting weight was 74kgs. In my 30's and 40's the weight crept on and I was in denial that I ate too much. By 45 I was 110kgs and suffering from excessive snoring, back and kneee problems and permanent heartburn. I had tried diets on and off in my 40's but nothing seemed to work and I "accepted" that it was my age, or my working life, or anything other than the fact that I needed to do something about it. A reality check from the doctor resulted in a total change of lifestyle and I achieved the appropriate result.
 

 

29th Jul 2010 - 10:15am
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Lizaleanrob wrote:

snip...

i spend a few months of the year in rural france and must admit i see very little if any problems with obesity maybe gnv might see more evidence than me

i do believe its our culture of fast food and places like iceland where nutritional value food is of no importance

i`m glad to say all our children eat proper meals and rarely eat takeaways or fast food


The only fat people we see mainly here are those ex-pats who insist on continuing to eat English food (full of sugar) they arrange to be shipped over from Tescos!

In the main, in rural France, the French work hard, play hard, walk a lot and drink to excess in moderation!

We have both changed our lifestyle to a more French influenced one. Over 12 months, I've managed to graduate my weight down by over 10 kilos. We rarely eat heavy meals after 8pm and never have takeaways. Even the patisserie seems less sweet than the English counterpart.

Interestingly, the French are MacDonalds biggest customers apparently. However, the recipes seem to be very un-american and much lighter in substance.
 

 

29th Jul 2010 - 10:19pm
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GnV wrote:


The only fat people we see mainly here are those ex-pats who insist on continuing to eat English food (full of sugar) they arrange to be shipped over from Tescos!


You must walk around with your eyes shut as ten percent of the French are obese. The UK are twice as much but it is still one in every French person is obese. Unless the Brits have an ex-pat community of ten percent of the French population dunno.gif

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30th Jul 2010 - 8:36am
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Dave__Notts wrote:

GnV wrote:


The only fat people we see mainly here are those ex-pats who insist on continuing to eat English food (full of sugar) they arrange to be shipped over from Tescos!


You must walk around with your eyes shut as ten percent of the French are obese. The UK are twice as much but it is still one in every French person is obese. Unless the Brits have an ex-pat community of ten percent of the French population dunno.gif

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This is a small farming community

Kinda reinforces my point, wouldn't you say?

In some parts of Dordogneshire, the ex-pat community is higher than 10% of the French community.
 

 

1st Aug 2010 - 10:58am
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GnV wrote:



Kinda reinforces my point, wouldn't you say?

In some parts of Dordogneshire, the ex-pat community is higher than 10% of the French community.


This where I scratch my head at the figures that are bandied about to prove a point. 10% and 20% are low figures in peoples minds but they equate to 6 & 12 million people. These are not low numbers and each is a national problem. If Frances was running at below 1%, and definately if it was near zero, then that would be something to be proud about. Both countries have a problem and need to deal with it. I can see nothing to be proud about in either figure.

Yep ex-pats do congragate around certain areas in the UK and abroad. It gives them a home from home feel. Thats why it seems that migrants are taking over certain parts of different countries. Across the the whole of the country they are still a small number though. Perhaps something that governments should look at to ease assimilation is to have migrants spread around instead of clumped together........but that is just human nature and has been going on for years. There was always the Jewish Quarter in medieval towns and then China Town in American cities etc.

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