My local council

i dont think they need to trace every consignment but for the sake of a slip of paper then maybe dumping stuff abroad/or anywhere would be discouraged

as thing's stand recycling companies may well be taking the cream (papers etc)and dumping the rest in land fill .who would know

I'm sure the council would be fined and ultimately pass it onto the tax payer who did their part

Fuck I am confused as I must be missing something.

Councils make a massive fucking thing out of TELLING us to recycle, plus get paid a subsidy for the ammount they recycle from National Government.

They then provide more fecking bins that make gardens look horrific.

People carefully put their recyclables into the correct coloured bin.

Three big massive gas guzzling waste trucks appear each week, to take the recyclables to I presume somewhere where they get recycled?

Then after all that we find that some gets put into landfills along with all the other rubbish.

Have I got this right or is all this the blame of the right wing shit press, or are people being mugged?

Dave_Notts

Ah well, Nipper has heard his master's voice, gone looking and found what exactly?

He's found an article in the Scotsman that explains how some waste that is collected for recycling is contaminated, and therefore has to be landfilled because it can;t be recycled.

The same article has a reference tot he way a private contractor in Durham screwed up and couldn;t deliver high uality waste to the market. Well done, Nipper, you good and faithful servant.

For everyone else, the gist of the article, as opposed to the headline that got Nipper's tail wagging and his master applauding, is here;



So even in East Lothian, the worst performer in Scotland, 84% of recyclable waste is uncontaminated and doesn't go into landfill. Thank you Nipper for identifying that, and the fact that in the best performing authority in Scotland, Edinburgh, 99.5% of collected recyclable waste is indeed recycled.

It's another cartoon moment; Ken threw the stick of dynamite (the demand for some evidence) away from him, and Nipper, like a good dog, retrieved it and dropped it at Ken's feet just in time for it to explode. What a cracking start to my day.

Well, all this talk of ken and Scotland reminds me of this

With sincere apologies to kentswingers777 for poking fun at him...

Dya ken John Peel is the music Dave.. it's a Scottish ballad

I think its awayman who always refers to kentswingers777 as "ken" and there is a Scottish slant now to the thread...

Hope that helps

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Ooh this is an open goal, but I'll resist the urge!



Councils tell us to recycle because it's good for the environment and you'll have to pay more council tax unless they can reduce the amount that goes into landfill. Dead simple!



Unfortunately, people very often do no put the recyclables into the correct coloured bin. Hence why councils have staff encouraging people to make sure they get it right. If they persistently offend by not following the simple instructions, it can lead to them being prosecuted.



If you are on what is confusingly termed a "fortnightly collection" (even though you get a collection every week), you will not get three gas guzzling waste trucks. It will be one truck a week as it always has been - one week it's your non recyclable and the next it's your recycling. That's certainly the way it works in my area.



As has already been explained, when it gets to the recycling plant they do a search and weed out the small proportion that isn't suitable to be recycled because it is contaminated. This then goes into landfill or some other form of waste disposal plant. But the vast, vast, vast majority of what goes into your recycling bin is recycled. You seem to be arguing that because a small percentage goes into landfill because it's not suitable for recycling, it's all pointless. The clues are in the words: not suitable for recycling!



The right wing media highlight a relatively small number of cases because it suits their agenda, which is to campaign against the nanny state telling people what to do. You read this drip feed of stories, and are convinced it is happening everywhere and that the whole system must be flawed.

Where I live there was a real kick off when they changed the system to an alternate week collection. This was simply because people don't like change. But residents gradually got used to it and as a result the recycling rate has rocketed. This is because people are making sure they separate out their waste properly because they know each type of waste only gets collected every other week. As a result the council is meeting its recycling targets. Now, if the council had caved in following the initial complaints, we would have gone back to the old system, there would have been no incentive to separate out waste properly because you know each bin is being emptied weekly, and the recycling rate would have remained static.

Hang on a mo...........that wooden spoon is mine because I did not get what you were talking about at first.

You were talking about one thing and I was talking about another. People coming on to the forum for the first time must have looked at the posts, shook their heads and uttered "It is like a mad house. They are having a conversation and not about the same thing"

Dave_Notts

Two here. One does the green and one does the recycling. Thinking about it, in the alternative weeks the household is picked up by one but I have no idea who takes the food waste that is left. I suspect the fecking big dog next door jumps over the fence and eats it............but as long as it is empty I don't care

Dave_Notts