I can see no reason why the cheeper option of a tunnel could not have been used
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1283953/Going-underground-Clever-animals-cross-road-hidden-tunnel-avoid-flattened-traffic.html
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/wildlifecrossings/badger.htm
http://www.gizmag.com/tunnel-improves-reptile-safety/9538/
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tunnels can not be used as dormice rarely venture to the ground there natural habitat is trees and hedgrows 
Lizaleanrob wrote:
tunnels can not be used as dormice rarely venture to the ground there natural habitat is trees and hedgrows
tunnels can not be used as dormice rarely venture to the ground there natural habitat is trees and hedgrows
I will bow to your Superior knowledge on this one then
Bluefish2009 wrote:
I will bow to your Superior knowledge on this one then
Lizaleanrob wrote:
tunnels can not be used as dormice rarely venture to the ground there natural habitat is trees and hedgrows
tunnels can not be used as dormice rarely venture to the ground there natural habitat is trees and hedgrows
I will bow to your Superior knowledge on this one then
na it was on bbc news the other night
its nice to see that councilors treat all tax paying customers with the greatest respect
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-11167289
he might be more at home at another council ........somewhere like barking
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-11167289
he might be more at home at another council ........somewhere like barking
Lizaleanrob wrote:
its nice to see that councilors treat all tax paying customers with the greatest respect
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-11167289
he might be more at home at another council ........somewhere like barking
its nice to see that councilors treat all tax paying customers with the greatest respect
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-11167289
he might be more at home at another council ........somewhere like barking
" An investigation by Mendip District Council said he failed to treat her with respect ".
Maybe councils should have that as part of their training schemes, as usually they treat the tax payer with contempt, and certainly not respect.
Lizaleanrob wrote:
its nice to see that councilors treat all tax paying customers with the greatest respect
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-11167289
he might be more at home at another council ........somewhere like barking
its nice to see that councilors treat all tax paying customers with the greatest respect
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-11167289
he might be more at home at another council ........somewhere like barking
He stepped over the mark and was dealt with by the police (no charges brought) and an internal investigation that suspended him for two months.
Seems fair, open and proportional to me.............or should he be hung from the nearest lamp post?
Dave_Notts
In the private sector he would have been sacked.
But not in the job for life councils...........perish the thought, what about his pension?
But not in the job for life councils...........perish the thought, what about his pension?
kentswingers777 wrote:
In the private sector he would have been sacked.
But not in the job for life councils...........perish the thought, what about his pension?
In the private sector he would have been sacked.
But not in the job for life councils...........perish the thought, what about his pension?
He is a councillor
. It is not a job but politics.
Do keep up Kenny and try to read the links that you are getting irked about
Dave_Notts
Dave__Notts wrote:
He stepped over the mark and was dealt with by the police (no charges brought) and an internal investigation that suspended him for two months.
Seems fair, open and proportional to me.............or should he be hung from the nearest lamp post?
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
its nice to see that councilors treat all tax paying customers with the greatest respect
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-11167289
he might be more at home at another council ........somewhere like barking
its nice to see that councilors treat all tax paying customers with the greatest respect
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-11167289
he might be more at home at another council ........somewhere like barking
He stepped over the mark and was dealt with by the police (no charges brought) and an internal investigation that suspended him for two months.
Seems fair, open and proportional to me.............or should he be hung from the nearest lamp post?
Dave_Notts
only for waving a Canadian flag
Lizaleanrob wrote:
only for waving a Canadian flag
only for waving a Canadian flag
That was a strange thing. If foreign nationals cannot vote........how can a Canadian become a Councillor?
Dave_Notts
Dave__Notts wrote:
That was a strange thing. If foreign nationals cannot vote........how can a Canadian become a Councillor?
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
only for waving a Canadian flag
only for waving a Canadian flag
That was a strange thing. If foreign nationals cannot vote........how can a Canadian become a Councillor?
Dave_Notts
so you didn't read the link either................................ tuts
he had duel nationality
Do keep up Davey fgs.
Dave__Notts wrote:
He is a councillor . It is not a job but politics.
Do keep up Kenny and try to read the links that you are getting irked about
Dave_Notts
kentswingers777 wrote:
In the private sector he would have been sacked.
But not in the job for life councils...........perish the thought, what about his pension?
In the private sector he would have been sacked.
But not in the job for life councils...........perish the thought, what about his pension?
He is a councillor
. It is not a job but politics.
Do keep up Kenny and try to read the links that you are getting irked about
Dave_Notts
If he gets any money whatsoever for it - it's a job. Even expenses - cos if he wasn't doing the 'job' he wouldn't be incurring the expenses.
foxylady2209 wrote:
If he gets any money whatsoever for it - it's a job. Even expenses - cos if he wasn't doing the 'job' he wouldn't be incurring the expenses.
Dave__Notts wrote:
He is a councillor . It is not a job but politics.
Do keep up Kenny and try to read the links that you are getting irked about
Dave_Notts
kentswingers777 wrote:
In the private sector he would have been sacked.
But not in the job for life councils...........perish the thought, what about his pension?
In the private sector he would have been sacked.
But not in the job for life councils...........perish the thought, what about his pension?
He is a councillor
. It is not a job but politics.
Do keep up Kenny and try to read the links that you are getting irked about
Dave_Notts
If he gets any money whatsoever for it - it's a job. Even expenses - cos if he wasn't doing the 'job' he wouldn't be incurring the expenses.
Councillors get paid an allowance plus expenses but it is not a job, it is an office, and as such is not subject to normal employment law.
However, all councillors are required to treat people with respect - it's part of the standards regime introduced by the last government, which this government wants to abolish. Wonder why that is?
Hmmmmm..........it is a job no matter what anyone says.
" Each Councillor receives an annual basic Allowance of £7,610 [2010-11], which is paid in monthly instalments and is subject to tax and National Insurance deductions ".
http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/council/democracy/represents/allowances.htm
If you pay tax and National Insurance contributions, it is a job.
Mind you that figure above is only a BASIC allowance.... " The Council pays an additional allowance to Councillors who are office holders and who have special responsibilities ".
Additional eh? That is obviously more money to add to the figure above, including deductions of course.
It is playing with words to say it is not a job....of course it is. They get paid for it ffs.
" Each Councillor receives an annual basic Allowance of £7,610 [2010-11], which is paid in monthly instalments and is subject to tax and National Insurance deductions ".
http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/council/democracy/represents/allowances.htm
If you pay tax and National Insurance contributions, it is a job.
Mind you that figure above is only a BASIC allowance.... " The Council pays an additional allowance to Councillors who are office holders and who have special responsibilities ".
Additional eh? That is obviously more money to add to the figure above, including deductions of course.
It is playing with words to say it is not a job....of course it is. They get paid for it ffs.
Councils may well have to show respect, but as I stated already they show contempt in large bucket loads....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308447/Town-hall-bosses-riding-gravy-train-pocket-6-figure-salaries.html
Are these numpties really worth these kind of obscene ammounts? Even though councils are having to make cut backs and lay off staff?
Maybe there should be another commandment added but this time for high flying council officials...
Look after oneself and fuck all the little men and women, as I am alright Jack.
Sort of has a ring to it.
This paragraph sums it up....
" 'In the last ten years council tax has more than doubled, but instead of this money going on better services for households, it's being paid out to senior officers in over-generous salaries ".
And lovely high gold plated pensions too let us not forget.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308447/Town-hall-bosses-riding-gravy-train-pocket-6-figure-salaries.html
Are these numpties really worth these kind of obscene ammounts? Even though councils are having to make cut backs and lay off staff?
Maybe there should be another commandment added but this time for high flying council officials...
Look after oneself and fuck all the little men and women, as I am alright Jack.
Sort of has a ring to it.
This paragraph sums it up....
" 'In the last ten years council tax has more than doubled, but instead of this money going on better services for households, it's being paid out to senior officers in over-generous salaries ".
And lovely high gold plated pensions too let us not forget.
awayman wrote:
However, all councillors are required to treat people with respect - it's part of the standards regime introduced by the last government, which this government wants to abolish. Wonder why that is?
However, all councillors are required to treat people with respect - it's part of the standards regime introduced by the last government, which this government wants to abolish. Wonder why that is?
Because it quite simply oppresses the freedom of individuals who wish to serve their communities. It created a whole new layer of unaccountable faceless individuals hell bent on Councillor bashing putting them in fear of having to go on a course to learn respect when engaged in heated debate with fellow councillors trying to negotiate the best deal for the community.
It also meant signing your life away; Local Councillors had a much more rigid regime than MP's did and there was little if any right to appeal.
Many Councillors I knew, including myself, resigned on the introduction of these draconian measures. It was a typical knee jerk reaction sledge hammer to crack a very tiny nut. The majority of local Councillors were dedicated people, never claimed a penny in expenses and did it simply for the love of the their community, as I did.
Guess who paid for these draconian measures?
The local tax payer, every time and it did no more than encourage many of those Councillors who remained (and those elected since) to bleed the system for every penny they can get to compensate them for the imposition.
Fill ones boots.
Lizaleanrob wrote:
so you didn't read the link either................................ tuts
he had duel nationality
Dave__Notts wrote:
That was a strange thing. If foreign nationals cannot vote........how can a Canadian become a Councillor?
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
only for waving a Canadian flag
only for waving a Canadian flag
That was a strange thing. If foreign nationals cannot vote........how can a Canadian become a Councillor?
Dave_Notts
so you didn't read the link either................................ tuts
he had duel nationality
I didn't realise that dual nationality allowed you to run for MP or Councillor. I thought you had to be British. Well you live and learn..........and yes I read that bit, thats why I asked the question
A bit like Arnie in America where he had to have full USA nationalization to be Govenor.......even though he was barred from running for president as he was not first generation American
Dave_Notts
