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It is in my view this sentiment of all for one and one for all that is eroding the standard of living.

Just because another business/country under cuts you, does not mean, in my view, that you have to under cut them. You do what BMW did, you make a better product, you make it more desirable and put your price up

Well it has not worked has it Stags, in the vain attempts to keep everybody job, in so many industry's here in the UK, we lost all the jobs in those industry's

I have my opinions, not that of any Government/s

Industry's need to look forward, not backwards.

Improve what you do or be left behind

I look at thing like this, Instead of looking for people to blame, I am looking at how I can improve mine and my family's lot, and my hope is, that will help improve other peoples circumstances

I worked for some time with a man who had worked for British Leyland, he did my head in. The constant quietening of what was required of him, we cant do this because we should not do this because. Forever trying to disrupt. And that, IMO, is why BL is no more.

Clap clap clap..............

Carry on Staggs, you are almost believing the drivel you write.

" .the 80's were our Gallipoli or Dunkirk...battles are sometimes lost...the answer isn't to surrender ".

That kind of attitude and you wonder why Thatcher wanted the unions smashed.

If I heard one of my employees utter such nonsense I would tell them to fuck right off out of my business.

The trouble is you make it seem like some kind of war.........employees versus employer.

Anybody who wants a lesson in union history and the demise of British industry, look no further than your complete distorted views, and most certainly your statement above!

I have seen people saying things like that just before the whole company went out on strike. British Leyland had hundreds of people like you there....no wonder it went down the toilet.

You my old Son are living in the past, this is not the 80's now........do you really understand how pathetic some of your comments sound?

Can anyone imagine for a second what it must be like to run a business and have people like yourself stirring the shit on a daily basis?

You and your attitudes would not last five minutes in most companies today........this is just so for YOU....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsCyC1dZiN8

You really need to bring yourself up to date, the 80's are gone now, and thank fuck for that.

Any employer who is not a member or who even is on here , must have their faces in their hands reading this thread, and thanking their lucky stars that attitudes like yours are mainly confined to the dustbin of union history.

Oh and btw ......Jethro fucking Tull ?????!!!!! and I'm supposed to be living in the past....looks once more for the 'more in sorrow than anger' emote :facepalm:

I am sure somewhere it was mentioned someone was pushed out from their job.........maybe that's why the attitude.

Will have to have more of a gander.

Ah right so you was obviously going to be pushed then?

See that is the fantastic thing about the internet....you just do not know when people are telling fibs or actually telling the truth old boy.





Yes of course you did.....before you was pushed of course.


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No I have heard enough for one day ta.

I certainly want the thread to stay open, as it may well beat the record of 19 pages, cannot remember who the thread was by now.

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No prefer IE to be honest.