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28th Sep 2010 - 10:24am
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Islandcpl1 wrote:

GnV wrote:

Islandcpl1 wrote:

Thank you for the correction, and the link to the EHRC web site as useful as it is, is only guidance and not a court of law, which is where the new legislation will be interpreted and enforced.

Are you actually able to read? In the first few pages of the "guidance" it mentions its status quite clearly in this respect - not unlike to the status accorded to the Highway Code. I just can't be arsed to cut and paste the relevant reference because you clearly have no intention of pursuing anything other than your own petty agenda.

I'm even more surprised that your posting wasn't punctuated with the usual "idiot" references; perhaps you may be learning a little (albeit slowly) after all!



Yes I read as should you

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/footer/terms-of-use/

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28th Sep 2010 - 10:42am
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Kaznkev wrote:

Do people actually believe that human beings deserve to be treated with dignity ,that your colour ,creed ,age ,sexuality,is no excuse for worse treatment.Yes a lot of us do.



Human rights have to be earned not given as a right, also equality laws?

The only way equality laws work is when EVERYONE is treated the same, and NOT treated differently just because of your religion or the colour of ones skin, or any other reason.

If people want to treat minorities in a completely different way to the majority, is it any wonder we have bad feeling out there.

Treat everyone the same and maybe just maybe the word " equality " will not be bounded about as though it is a chocolate sweet.

A friends Daughter is doing a course on social care at the moment, where she has to learn about diversity and equality.....it is like a social workers manual.

Equality does not exist, and for many, having human rights is a joke as there are plenty out there who not only do not deserve any rights, but certainly not human rights ones.

Sorry not really a lefty here at this keyboard.
 

 

28th Sep 2010 - 10:42pm
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vampanya wrote:

I hate to be a bore but you're wrong there. Pole dancing for entertainment does not automatically mean that it falls into the sex establishment criteria. Far from it. Only the fact that its in a swingers club (for the purpose of this debate) would make it anything to do with adult entertainment and thats because of the venue not the activity. Pole dancing in a pub needs no licence specific to adult entertainment. But that's going off the point even further.

Dancing is dancing and as bizarre as it may seem, establishments have to have a licence for it whether its performance or girls having dance round handbags. All establishments. Pubs included.


This is the quirkiness in the licensing laws. Automatically require one is not an absolute under this piece of legislation. It depends on what you are doing, where and for how long.

Pole dancing does not automatically need one, as you rightly said, as it is dependant on what they are doing. If it is sexual gratification then this can be classed as entertainment and one is required under the sex establishment criteria. If it is for people to use as an exercise regime/limbering up then it isn't required.

Dancing is not dancing I am afraid. It is what the premise is hosting depends if it requires a license. An example here is a village hall that hosts a disco for kids could require a license. The same village hall that has a youth club with a jukebox in the corner and kids dance around their handbags does not require one. It is incidental to the use which is primarily as a youth club.

Now private/domestic houses being used by 10-20 couples for a shag who pay £20 for the pleasure and have a stereo in the corner where one or two couples may get up and dance does not require one for dancing as it is also incidental to the activity i.e. shagging, that is the main activity that is on-going there.

Now to really throw the cats among the pigeons. Even if the private house wants to hold a full blown disco, they do not have to apply for the full license as they are not having it all the time. They can just give the council a Temporary Events Notice. This is just a notice to tell them that they are having it, they are not asking for permission just telling them, as the only people who can object is the police authority. A private person can apply for 5 of these a year or if the person holds a personal license then they can apply for 12 a year.

The licensing legislation is so screwed up, even the councils do not apply it consistantly. Cross border differences are not uncommon. This is one piece of legislation that was brought in with so many loopholes that it is nearly unenforceable........and thankfully it is under review to be changed.

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29th Sep 2010 - 12:24pm
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just a thought i suppose the powers that be thought this act was fair and just to everyone so why do they allow the "postcode lottery" of nhs medicines being dispensed to some people but not all people who may need it, that don't seem fair and equal to everyone.
 
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