Too Hot wrote:
Hi Dean, don't know if you have noticed but there are masses of tweny and thirtysomethings all over western europe now who originated in Eastern Europe. They are the children of the generation that endured true socialism from 1945-1986 and their parents have encouraged and motivated them to work hard and achieve more. They "allegedly" stole the jobs from the indiginous work force in the UK and W. Europe because they were prepared to work harder for less money and accept that progressing in life meant starting at the bottom and fighting their way up.
This particular web site is a reflection of everything that is wrong with complacent Britain and your posting above encapsulates it perfectly. You sense and injustice, but rather than fight to raise yourself above it you would rather the State bring everyone else down to your level.
There is a true middle class of former Eastern Europeans in this country now and they have followed in the same footsteps as the Asians before them. They have worked hard, invested their money wisely and built their businesses and their lives whilst so many around them complained about everything and particularly how unlucky they were whilst the immigrants had such a good deal. Many of those immigrants are now high net worth individuals with big property potfolios and they have achieved this by working hard - an Asian Client of mine started working in his Uncles shop in 1991 and worked 90 hours a week saving like crazy and started buying houses in 1993 and currently has a portfolio of 106 UK buy to let properties which earn him £300,000 a year at the moment through rent/mortgage differentials.
It is not wrong to be aspirational, it is good. It is not wrong to aspire to own property to try to sort your own future pension arrangements out - because the government certainly ain't helping.
I think you are going through a bad time Dean having been made redundant and you want to blame someone, or something. This is understandable but you can get yourself out of the situation by rising above it and not hoping or trying to bring others down because they have aspirations for wealth and success and/or property ownership.
My original comments on the thread were about the Construction Industry and all associated trades having the ability to get the country out of recession. France is proving on an on going basis that with imaginative tax propositions such as Loi Scellier (Capital Allowances for individuals investing in new build, managed schemes) and a willing yet conservative banking system that construction can achieve a utopia:
1) Put pension planning in the hands of the individual
2) Keep the property market buoyant
3) Maintaining economic progress through construction
There is a fear in the country of greed through property speculation but this can easily be controlled by CGT and is really a non issue which in effect could be a significant revenue earner.
deancannock wrote:
Quote: Too Hot....."No problem at all that some people are non aspirational"
what a totally condesending comment. So just because someone does not want to own some bricks and mortar they are non aspirational people !!!!! People who choose to rent maybe can aspire to different values to you. You say you take advantage and increase your rents year on year !! Yea....well maybe as already stated if we built more affordable rented, council accommadation, ...private landlords would have to think again about their rent and would not be able to increase their income by more and more each year !!
Quote: Too Hot....."No problem at all that some people are non aspirational"
what a totally condesending comment. So just because someone does not want to own some bricks and mortar they are non aspirational people !!!!! People who choose to rent maybe can aspire to different values to you. You say you take advantage and increase your rents year on year !! Yea....well maybe as already stated if we built more affordable rented, council accommadation, ...private landlords would have to think again about their rent and would not be able to increase their income by more and more each year !!
Hi Dean, don't know if you have noticed but there are masses of tweny and thirtysomethings all over western europe now who originated in Eastern Europe. They are the children of the generation that endured true socialism from 1945-1986 and their parents have encouraged and motivated them to work hard and achieve more. They "allegedly" stole the jobs from the indiginous work force in the UK and W. Europe because they were prepared to work harder for less money and accept that progressing in life meant starting at the bottom and fighting their way up.
This particular web site is a reflection of everything that is wrong with complacent Britain and your posting above encapsulates it perfectly. You sense and injustice, but rather than fight to raise yourself above it you would rather the State bring everyone else down to your level.
There is a true middle class of former Eastern Europeans in this country now and they have followed in the same footsteps as the Asians before them. They have worked hard, invested their money wisely and built their businesses and their lives whilst so many around them complained about everything and particularly how unlucky they were whilst the immigrants had such a good deal. Many of those immigrants are now high net worth individuals with big property potfolios and they have achieved this by working hard - an Asian Client of mine started working in his Uncles shop in 1991 and worked 90 hours a week saving like crazy and started buying houses in 1993 and currently has a portfolio of 106 UK buy to let properties which earn him £300,000 a year at the moment through rent/mortgage differentials.
It is not wrong to be aspirational, it is good. It is not wrong to aspire to own property to try to sort your own future pension arrangements out - because the government certainly ain't helping.
I think you are going through a bad time Dean having been made redundant and you want to blame someone, or something. This is understandable but you can get yourself out of the situation by rising above it and not hoping or trying to bring others down because they have aspirations for wealth and success and/or property ownership.
My original comments on the thread were about the Construction Industry and all associated trades having the ability to get the country out of recession. France is proving on an on going basis that with imaginative tax propositions such as Loi Scellier (Capital Allowances for individuals investing in new build, managed schemes) and a willing yet conservative banking system that construction can achieve a utopia:
1) Put pension planning in the hands of the individual
2) Keep the property market buoyant
3) Maintaining economic progress through construction
There is a fear in the country of greed through property speculation but this can easily be controlled by CGT and is really a non issue which in effect could be a significant revenue earner.
ffs...how patronising can you get !! Actually to the point of being offensive !! You know nothing of me and my life. I have worked since the age of 18 leaving college, I have twice run my own company, and right now for the first time ( as stated by the company involved, as a direct result of geovernment policy) I have been made redundant. I have now started up my own company again, for the moment. I do own my own property. However I do not call people who do not wish to own there own houses non-aspirational. You obviousily think to ne aspirational you must have money and materialisitic things. Some of us aspire higher than that. Happiness and contentment has no price on its head.
