Shame on you Liverpool FC

That does still not make the use of racial abuse any worse than any other verbal abuse in my mind.

But to answer your pacific point, I think those who are verbally abused feel just as unhappy as those racially abused, never mind the history.

Protect us from abuse, says woman beaten for being fat. Overweight people in London have launched a campaign to make the capital more fat-friendly.

It comes after one woman was beaten up on a train for being fat. A group of women want to persuade Boris Johnson to make London more like San Francisco, where discriminating against fat people is banned by law.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23758001-protect-us-from-abuse-says-woman-beaten-for-being-fat.do

I believe that the following terms and conditions of this Site have been breached in this thread:

"Refrain from all expressions of bigotry, racism, and homophobia."

The N word is not acceptable in this country and any attempt to justify its use is racist.

What started in this thread as a debate about the actions of a football Club has descended into people questioning the context and use of a word that is universally accepted as a racist and unacceptable to use in this country. I feel sickened and disgusted that anyone could even think that it is any way acceptable.

Starlight - your last post was the final straw for me. I ignored your comments about the black footballers and (the clues being there) but making up stories to justify the continued use of a word that will never again in history be acceptable is outrageous. Neil (who I don't normally agree with) posted a rational and factual reason why the word is universally agreed to be unacceptable.

Not sure where this thread can go now. Hopefully nowhere.

thank you Neil in that case Suarez was indeed correct in his terminology

i appologise if my coments offended anyone but no story was made up at all.

i may not be able to express myself sometimes in the way that i would like, so for that i appologise. it certainly was not my intention to offend, only to try and give another point of view on things.
i still beleeve that there are two laws in this country and i will not stop thinking that.
the n word is not a word that is illegal to say, it is i thought only wrong when it is aimed at somebody?
as my inability to express myself in the way that i would like, and obviusly have offended peeple here i will quit this thred.

When used as the name of the dog owned by Guy Gibson, and was the mascot of 617 Squadron, who gained the nickname 'Dambusters' after raids on various dams in Germany. The dog died the day before the raids, and it's name was used to confirm the breach of the Dam Guy Gibson had bombed.

So in that context, I feel the word is acceptable, it is a part of the history of the 617 Squadron.

However, when the word is used in a racially derogatory way, then there is no place for it, and I see no reason why a person shouldn't be punished for it.

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I disagree to some extent here neil. People may not get strung up for being fat ginger or even ugly by racists but they sure do by other narrow minded people. Have seen plenty of storys of school kids one of whom was kiled in back alley by other kids for being fat. A tragic case is it any more or less tragic than a racial one, no. I myself was picked on in primary school for having big ears At the time I found it most upsetting and I cant imagine that its any worse to be upset by being abused for you ear size than it is to be abused for your race? Being hurt or being offended is universal.



Very interesting what you say Blue. At work over about the last 18 months I have been involved in a few discussions about the kind of topic of this thread and also other political issues such as imigration and other more petty things. I have now heard three times a statement along the lines of "I think this and I cant change that if this makes me a racist than call me a racist, I dont care". That statement has then been almost unanimously agreed with by the small groups in the room normally 5-6 people. Its shows that people are getting annoyed with the silly things such as the original issue of this thread and other things such as haivng to watch every word you say just in case you say one out of place. Not being able to hang christmas decoartions in certain parts of the country (myth or legend I dont know but people belive it) or one I know to be true a car park owner who was banned from having a picture of a pig on his car park sign. Buthcer not being able to hang pigs in the window in certain areas? This is the kind of thing myth or not thats gets peoples backs up and it needs adressing. I dont think for one moment it will casue any immediate problem but things that boil under the surface for too long can one day have nasty overspill

I thought I had made that quite clear, sorry if I did not. See above in red. As stated above I would not aim these words at any one, any more than I would call them a cunt or bastard. However, they are just words, and used in context, say in a book from the time or writing about that time, then they could well be required and used. They are not taboo

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Yes.........if used in the correct context. India still has the Spastic Society that is a charity.

Now one I didn't know is that the derogatory term Spastic has grown out of fashion due to campaigning by Scope. Now spastic has been replaced by Scope or Scopey to mean the new insult in the 2000's. Have to admit that I have not heard it being used though...........but there again I do not hang around kids to listen to slang

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