vanilla alternatives 21st jan

Best club in the country bar none. Have fun

Counting down the days until we can go again--been 4 times and we're always first in the jacuzzi as i like to get a couple of lengths in....fnar fnar

We've been to Libs many a time, but VAs is now closer, although it's easily missed if you're not paying attention to the road...

Two things we found and these are our opinions:

1) once they started enforcing the closing of the upstairs rooms off at Libs we stopped going--we hate queuing and saw it as a bit selfish hogging an entire room--it would only take 4 couples to effectively close off half the venue! We know the reasons, whys and wherefores but if we wanted privacy we'd have gone back to the hotel....

2) conversely, on the times we've been, VA appears to have less of a quiet, touchy feely atmoshphere. By this we mean we don't necessarily like to socialise beforehand, but we do like wordless flesh on flesh action which because of the "upstairs orgy room" (as we called it at LIbs--basically two beds together), it felt more like a hedonistic roman orgy--something we always preferred. Unfortunately we've found that VA is a bit more segregated, and unless ypou actually talk to people before hand wordless invitations are a bit thin on the ground....

We like the accidental touching, the wandering hands, the strategic manouvering--that's just how we like it! However we 've found we end up playing a lot more by ourselves at VA than we ever did at Libs

But in saying that we can't wait to go back, just have to get stocktakes and training courses out the way first...

thanks for the info v informative, we have been to libertys twice, and i know what u meen about upstairs. never been vanillas so should be fun.xxx

The thought we had regarding the wordless intimacy would be very easy to implement.

Essentially they just do as that place down near Heathrow and have little wooden, reversible hanging signs in the smaller areas--one side says "please join us" the other side says "could you leave us alone for 5 minutes ". We'd love that

The larger open plan areas, particularly opposite the jacuzzi, can feel quite fenced off with couples not going anywhere near each other--perhaps we'll try a different area next time

right, back to work...

Just a quick update went to VA had a ball the club was clean, staff were wonderfull.
We stay over for the night in the hotel, room was clean and warm.
Defo be going again.
Sorry we did not get round to seeing the lady in blue maybe another time