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Blue, inner London has a dynamic all of its own. Nowhere else in the country do you have such a concentrated mass of people so diverse in socio-economic status so tightly pressed cheek by jowl over so large an area. London has truly vast, almost beyond imagining extremes of wealth and poverty living good as side by side. You've got The City proper and Westminster a 5 minute tube ride from some of the most deprived areas of the country. It's kinda unique IMO. Soon as you get out of the inner cities and satellite boroughs it's a different story altogether in the South and South East.
neilinleeds wrote:
Blue, inner London has a dynamic all of its own. Nowhere else in the country do you have such a concentrated mass of people so diverse in socio-economic status so tightly pressed cheek by jowl over so large an area. London has truly vast, almost beyond imagining extremes of wealth and poverty living good as side by side. You've got The City proper and Westminster a 5 minute tube ride from some of the most deprived areas of the country. It's kinda unique IMO.
Blue, inner London has a dynamic all of its own. Nowhere else in the country do you have such a concentrated mass of people so diverse in socio-economic status so tightly pressed cheek by jowl over so large an area. London has truly vast, almost beyond imagining extremes of wealth and poverty living good as side by side. You've got The City proper and Westminster a 5 minute tube ride from some of the most deprived areas of the country. It's kinda unique IMO.
I would imagine every town/city is unique in one way or another.
Yes you are quite right, London is unique Neil, Inner London is by far the most unequal of all regions in England.
its so funny this thread i think it needs sticky status
north south divide really!!!! funny how most of the work we carry out is coming from the so so called poor north, with most customers spending over 2 grand a time on products things really arn't that bad op north , maybe we should move all the call centres back from deli to Bradford
funny this always crops up when we have a change in government
all i can say is get real and let go of the past its gone and your not bringing it back
and if its that bad im sure some refugee camps have some spare places just south of watford
north south divide really!!!! funny how most of the work we carry out is coming from the so so called poor north, with most customers spending over 2 grand a time on products things really arn't that bad op north , maybe we should move all the call centres back from deli to Bradford
funny this always crops up when we have a change in government
all i can say is get real and let go of the past its gone and your not bringing it back
and if its that bad im sure some refugee camps have some spare places just south of watford
Alright Rob, I'll play.
What sort of products do you sell, and to what sort of customers? We need more information you see if we're gonna work out if the general stats are shite just cos you seem to be doing well out of people in the North who also happen to be doing well?
I doubt that makes the stats shite at all, but knock yaself out. If you think you know better, we're all waiting?
I refer you to Foxy's eloquent post. By way of what most people in the science trade would no doubt call 'anecdotal evidence' the Leeds based company I work for is doing well too, but then it's in the security industry, and first thing businesses and people think of in a recession is their security cos they've all seen metal thefts on the news so hardly surprising.
What's your angle, and how does that disprove the general stats? I'll give you a clue. It doesn't.
What sort of products do you sell, and to what sort of customers? We need more information you see if we're gonna work out if the general stats are shite just cos you seem to be doing well out of people in the North who also happen to be doing well?
I doubt that makes the stats shite at all, but knock yaself out. If you think you know better, we're all waiting?
I refer you to Foxy's eloquent post. By way of what most people in the science trade would no doubt call 'anecdotal evidence' the Leeds based company I work for is doing well too, but then it's in the security industry, and first thing businesses and people think of in a recession is their security cos they've all seen metal thefts on the news so hardly surprising.
What's your angle, and how does that disprove the general stats? I'll give you a clue. It doesn't.
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think
because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
Lizaleanrob wrote:
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think
because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/corporate/statistics/indices2010
Knock yourself out with them
Dave_Notts
" We will decentralise power from Whitehall and build the Big Society ".
sounds like a manifesto promise from the anti government think tank department
do these peeple only hate the tories or all political parties?
" highest proportion of Lower Layer Super Output Areas "
WTF 
only hackney and tower hamlets from london boroughs in the top 5? what reely? are they the only ones they visited?
i can think of one or two worse than those two they have mentioned. still cant argue with stats now, can you
sounds like a manifesto promise from the anti government think tank department
do these peeple only hate the tories or all political parties?
" highest proportion of Lower Layer Super Output Areas "
WTF
only hackney and tower hamlets from london boroughs in the top 5? what reely? are they the only ones they visited?
i can think of one or two worse than those two they have mentioned. still cant argue with stats now, can you
starlightcouple wrote:
" We will decentralise power from Whitehall and build the Big Society ".
sounds like a manifesto promise from the anti government think tank department
do these peeple only hate the tories or all political parties?
" highest proportion of Lower Layer Super Output Areas " WTF
only hackney and tower hamlets from london boroughs in the top 5? what reely? are they the only ones they visited?
i can think of one or two worse than those two they have mentioned. still cant argue with stats now, can you
" We will decentralise power from Whitehall and build the Big Society ".
sounds like a manifesto promise from the anti government think tank department
do these peeple only hate the tories or all political parties?
" highest proportion of Lower Layer Super Output Areas "
WTF
only hackney and tower hamlets from london boroughs in the top 5? what reely? are they the only ones they visited?
i can think of one or two worse than those two they have mentioned. still cant argue with stats now, can you
Since decentralisation is always to the fore of Tory policy why would the statement be anti-tory
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think
because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
Please present stats to back up your argument. I'm only asking cos I would like to think the ONS employ people who know what stats are, and how they work, so as to help Govt make informed decisions. If you're telling me they're all idiots and you know better I think I need to be having a word with 'em. Perhaps we could pay you millions of pounds a year to collect all the data for us instead, on the understanding it better be accurate cos otherwise it's gonna get ripped to bits, assuming you put it up into the public domain in the first place?
So Rob . . . . these stats you've got for us?
IS IT
8th Feb 2012 - 2:04am
Dave__Notts wrote:
http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/corporate/statistics/indices2010
Knock yourself out with them
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think
because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/corporate/statistics/indices2010
Knock yourself out with them
Dave_Notts
So you believe that the North/South divide is singly based on the effects of London, I would a agree it is a big city, but is it as big as the combined cities further north, take the Cities of Coventry, Birmingham, Wolverhampton, I don't know but would guess that the three cities are located in an area within the size of the one City of London, nearby there are the Cities of Leicester and Derby, Nottingham, Stoke on Trent, further North we have Liverpool, Manchester and Leeds, so how much of the remaining 80% of the UKs GDP do you think they contribute ?
I think we do need refuge camps preparing though, I honestly believe that the crazy price hikes in London and the South in general will backfire in peoples faces and they will need our Northern help.
I once worked for Magnet Kitchens, based in Telford our average order value was around £4-5000, at the same time the branches down South had average order values of £16,000. A rep who worked in the Kensington branch said his showroom was located only doors away from a poggenpohl showroom, when they priced a kitchen they trebled or quadroopled the price othewise people believed the product was rubbish compared to the poggenpohl product and quote (it probably was) thier average order value at the time was £20,000
He also told me that people in the inner London elite areas people expected to pay more, they didn't even care that they could buy the product in the midlands at a fraction of the cost, because if the neighbours found out they only paid a small amount they would consider them "skinflints".
Look at house prices in London, even the non-fashionable outskirts, you couldn't buy a garage in London for the price of a large family home in this area. The crash will come and it will hit those inflated housing areas hardest.
Dave__Notts wrote:
http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/corporate/statistics/indices2010
Knock yourself out with them
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think
because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/corporate/statistics/indices2010
Knock yourself out with them
Dave_Notts
does that mean hackney and tower hamlets are considered northerners
and in 2007 too good old blair and brown its great to see the truth come out
Re: IS IT
8th Feb 2012 - 8:44am
MidsCouple24 wrote:
So you believe that the North/South divide is singly based on the effects of London, I would a agree it is a big city, but is it as big as the combined cities further north, take the Cities of Coventry, Birmingham, Wolverhampton, I don't know but would guess that the three cities are located in an area within the size of the one City of London, nearby there are the Cities of Leicester and Derby, Nottingham, Stoke on Trent, further North we have Liverpool, Manchester and Leeds, so how much of the remaining 80% of the UKs GDP do you think they contribute ?
I think we do need refuge camps preparing though, I honestly believe that the crazy price hikes in London and the South in general will backfire in peoples faces and they will need our Northern help.
I once worked for Magnet Kitchens, based in Telford our average order value was around £4-5000, at the same time the branches down South had average order values of £16,000. A rep who worked in the Kensington branch said his showroom was located only doors away from a poggenpohl showroom, when they priced a kitchen they trebled or quadroopled the price othewise people believed the product was rubbish compared to the poggenpohl product and quote (it probably was) thier average order value at the time was £20,000
He also told me that people in the inner London elite areas people expected to pay more, they didn't even care that they could buy the product in the midlands at a fraction of the cost, because if the neighbours found out they only paid a small amount they would consider them "skinflints".
Look at house prices in London, even the non-fashionable outskirts, you couldn't buy a garage in London for the price of a large family home in this area. The crash will come and it will hit those inflated housing areas hardest.
Dave__Notts wrote:
http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/corporate/statistics/indices2010
Knock yourself out with them
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
this great north south divide is based on a very big city that produces 20%+ of the uk's gdp and employs a large percentage of its workforce from surrounding counties
and that is the whole basis of your and the supporters of the north is poor argument ..............bit daft don't you think
because lets face it its not and never has been a north south divide its a London and surrounding counties North divide
should we set up some refugee camps dya recon
http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/corporate/statistics/indices2010
Knock yourself out with them
Dave_Notts
So you believe that the North/South divide is singly based on the effects of London, I would a agree it is a big city, but is it as big as the combined cities further north, take the Cities of Coventry, Birmingham, Wolverhampton, I don't know but would guess that the three cities are located in an area within the size of the one City of London, nearby there are the Cities of Leicester and Derby, Nottingham, Stoke on Trent, further North we have Liverpool, Manchester and Leeds, so how much of the remaining 80% of the UKs GDP do you think they contribute ?
I think we do need refuge camps preparing though, I honestly believe that the crazy price hikes in London and the South in general will backfire in peoples faces and they will need our Northern help.
I once worked for Magnet Kitchens, based in Telford our average order value was around £4-5000, at the same time the branches down South had average order values of £16,000. A rep who worked in the Kensington branch said his showroom was located only doors away from a poggenpohl showroom, when they priced a kitchen they trebled or quadroopled the price othewise people believed the product was rubbish compared to the poggenpohl product and quote (it probably was) thier average order value at the time was £20,000
He also told me that people in the inner London elite areas people expected to pay more, they didn't even care that they could buy the product in the midlands at a fraction of the cost, because if the neighbours found out they only paid a small amount they would consider them "skinflints".
Look at house prices in London, even the non-fashionable outskirts, you couldn't buy a garage in London for the price of a large family home in this area. The crash will come and it will hit those inflated housing areas hardest.
so you missed the point that one square mile is produces 20% + of the gdp and employs over 100.000 people where else in the uk is that figure repeated
yep your right some Muppet's pay more for a kitchen than is necessary but hey i brought a kitchen last year from magnets 20 grands worth
but ........................i didn't pay that as my sons best Friend works for magnets so i paid 2.500 wooooo hooooo me
house prices are relevant only when you sell a house or try to buy one always have and always will be
we have already had a house prices crash in the early nineties it didn't affect most, and the greatest rise in house prices ever was under the the champions of the north LABOUR
FYI the elite dont really live in the inner city kensington and chelsea are more west London
east London has always been a poor area and that's been fueled by high rise housing and loony councils
maybe we can organise a trip to some of the poorer areas of London to appease the hard done by northerners
and ill repeat my sentiments being poor is not a northern disease and not exclusive to the northern part of the british isles im sure
the whole north south divide is a nothing more than bullshite that helps fuel hate
Re: IS IT
8th Feb 2012 - 11:28am
MidsCouple24 wrote:
Look at house prices in London, even the non-fashionable outskirts, you couldn't buy a garage in London for the price of a large family home in this area. The crash will come and it will hit those inflated housing areas hardest.
Look at house prices in London, even the non-fashionable outskirts, you couldn't buy a garage in London for the price of a large family home in this area. The crash will come and it will hit those inflated housing areas hardest.
seems that is you hoping the crash comes.
i remembered it was your good self that i had a discussion with regarding london not that long ago. with regards to you moaning and groaning about the money spent on the capitals new yeers eve firework display and other things.
it was apparent then that you hated london and your thred here just confirms that. you live up t'north that is great, and i live down south. i do not or never want to live up north.
the site at this moment in time will not let me go back into anyones forum posts over a page ago, where our chat took place. it is no coincidence to me that the very person who started the thred with regards to the north/south divide, is the very person who hates london.
got it now.
i bet deep down you would love to live here reely, but as you cannot then....
go on admit it, go on go on
Re: IS IT
8th Feb 2012 - 2:56pm
starlightcouple wrote:
seems that is you hoping the crash comes.
i remembered it was your good self that i had a discussion with regarding london not that long ago. with regards to you moaning and groaning about the money spent on the capitals new yeers eve firework display and other things.
it was apparent then that you hated london and your thred here just confirms that. you live up t'north that is great, and i live down south. i do not or never want to live up north.
the site at this moment in time will not let me go back into anyones forum posts over a page ago, where our chat took place. it is no coincidence to me that the very person who started the thred with regards to the north/south divide, is the very person who hates london.
got it now.
i bet deep down you would love to live here reely, but as you cannot then....
go on admit it, go on go on
MidsCouple24 wrote:
Look at house prices in London, even the non-fashionable outskirts, you couldn't buy a garage in London for the price of a large family home in this area. The crash will come and it will hit those inflated housing areas hardest.
Look at house prices in London, even the non-fashionable outskirts, you couldn't buy a garage in London for the price of a large family home in this area. The crash will come and it will hit those inflated housing areas hardest.
seems that is you hoping the crash comes.
i remembered it was your good self that i had a discussion with regarding london not that long ago. with regards to you moaning and groaning about the money spent on the capitals new yeers eve firework display and other things.
it was apparent then that you hated london and your thred here just confirms that. you live up t'north that is great, and i live down south. i do not or never want to live up north.
the site at this moment in time will not let me go back into anyones forum posts over a page ago, where our chat took place. it is no coincidence to me that the very person who started the thred with regards to the north/south divide, is the very person who hates london.
got it now.
i bet deep down you would love to live here reely, but as you cannot then....
go on admit it, go on go on
Part of what you say is very true, but hate London, not at all, I am British to the core and it is our Nations Capital, I have and would again put my life on the line for it and what it stands for. But your attitude is typical of Londoners, I think some people may think, as I do, that the South in not one City, London is part of a very large area we call the South, only a Londoner could possibly think that when we refer to the South we are only talking about London, I quoted London house prices because I believe that most people will realise that this is one area of the South where housing is overly expensive, there are many many other areas that are the same. Would I live in London, no, I am a country boy at heart, would I live in some of the beautifull areas of countryside the South has to offer, absolutely, though I doubt I could ever afford to.
What I do hate is how money is often channeled into the capital and it's surrounding areas that is denied to other developments, take Wembly stadium for instance, when funds were sought for the new stadium we struggled to raise the funds, we had to wait for the new stadium, yet all the while money was waiting and pledged to build a new National Stadium serving not only football but many other sports as well, all private money at no expense to the taxpayer, the problem, the money was available to build it in the centre of the country, between Birmingham and Coventry in an area that is already served well by rail, air and road links, has adequate accommodation and other facilities currently serving the NEC. Did the National Sports Stadium HAVE to be located in London ?
How many projects outside the Capital were financed for the Millenium, did anyone consider building a Dome elsewhere, would the failed Millenium Bridge have been better located elsewhere ?
I feel sorry for Londoners, yes there is a lot of money pumped into the Capital that could be better used elsewhere but they are also taken advantage of, congestion tax, parking fees outside your own homes, (I can park 9 cars on the street directly outside my house at no cost whatsoever) extortionate council tax rates and more, but this thread was asking what other people thought about the divide, because I don't know all the answers and wondered what other people thought, average people not the media and not the Government.
I also wondered if anyone could justify the price difference between a house here (mine has a total of 12 rooms @ £120,00 and a similar property ANYWHERE south of Watford ? I really would like to know why there is such a huge difference in the cost, I know views, schools, transport links and so on make a difference but what makes such a huge difference ?
Re: IS IT
8th Feb 2012 - 3:40pm
MidsCouple24 wrote:
Part of what you say is very true, but hate London, not at all, I am British to the core and it is our Nations Capital, I have and would again put my life on the line for it and what it stands for.
Part of what you say is very true, but hate London, not at all, I am British to the core and it is our Nations Capital, I have and would again put my life on the line for it and what it stands for.
all you do is moan about how much london or the south gets in comparrison to the rest of the country
but london is your biggest gripe.
MidsCouple24 wrote:
What I do hate is how money is often channeled into the capital and it's surrounding areas that is denied to other developments, take Wembly stadium for instance, when funds were sought for the new stadium we struggled to raise the funds, we had to wait for the new stadium, yet all the while money was waiting and pledged to build a new National Stadium serving not only football but many other sports as well, all private money at no expense to the taxpayer, the problem, the money was available to build it in the centre of the country, between Birmingham and Coventry in an area that is already served well by rail, air and road links, has adequate accommodation and other facilities currently serving the NEC. Did the National Sports Stadium HAVE to be located in London ?
What I do hate is how money is often channeled into the capital and it's surrounding areas that is denied to other developments, take Wembly stadium for instance, when funds were sought for the new stadium we struggled to raise the funds, we had to wait for the new stadium, yet all the while money was waiting and pledged to build a new National Stadium serving not only football but many other sports as well, all private money at no expense to the taxpayer, the problem, the money was available to build it in the centre of the country, between Birmingham and Coventry in an area that is already served well by rail, air and road links, has adequate accommodation and other facilities currently serving the NEC. Did the National Sports Stadium HAVE to be located in London ?
see you contradict yourself all the time. it is plain to see that someone up north has a constant pop because they moan about there bit of the country is not getting the same investments. oh and yes the national stadium should be in london, for the same reesons that the olympic stadium is as well
birmingham? i am sure there are many peeple outside of london who would love to have birmingham as its capital. will have to see if we can move buck house and the houses of parliament up there as well. have they got enough space in crossroads county?
MidsCouple24 wrote:
How many projects outside the Capital were financed for the Millenium, did anyone consider building a Dome elsewhere, would the failed Millenium Bridge have been better located elsewhere ?
How many projects outside the Capital were financed for the Millenium, did anyone consider building a Dome elsewhere, would the failed Millenium Bridge have been better located elsewhere ?
not another moan is it
MidsCouple24 wrote:
I feel sorry for Londoners, yes there is a lot of money pumped into the Capital that could be better used elsewhere but they are also taken advantage of, congestion tax, parking fees outside your own homes, (I can park 9 cars on the street directly outside my house at no cost whatsoever) extortionate council tax rates and more, but this thread was asking what other people thought about the divide, because I don't know all the answers and wondered what other people thought, average people not the media and not the Government.
I feel sorry for Londoners, yes there is a lot of money pumped into the Capital that could be better used elsewhere but they are also taken advantage of, congestion tax, parking fees outside your own homes, (I can park 9 cars on the street directly outside my house at no cost whatsoever) extortionate council tax rates and more, but this thread was asking what other people thought about the divide, because I don't know all the answers and wondered what other people thought, average people not the media and not the Government.
see what we have to put up with in london??
i can tell you what, there are bigger slums and lack of money spent in london than anywhere else. they have mentioned too boroughs in london but there are many many more places than those. stratford before the stadium had been screaming out for development since just after the war, it was virtually a slum and had been for yeers. there is no north south divide, only green eyed northerners who THINK there is a divide.
MidsCouple24 wrote:
I also wondered if anyone could justify the price difference between a house here (mine has a total of 12 rooms @ £120,00 and a similar property ANYWHERE south of Watford ? I really would like to know why there is such a huge difference in the cost, I know views, schools, transport links and so on make a difference but what makes such a huge difference ?
I also wondered if anyone could justify the price difference between a house here (mine has a total of 12 rooms @ £120,00 and a similar property ANYWHERE south of Watford ? I really would like to know why there is such a huge difference in the cost, I know views, schools, transport links and so on make a difference but what makes such a huge difference ?
WAGES my friend. WAGES.
all of what you say above is just one contradiction after another. you dont like london etc etc etc. fine i am sure london can do without your good self. for me? i love london and the fact that we have the national stadium, and the olympic stadium, and the home of rugby, or as near to london as can be.
it happens in london for the same reesons it happens in new york, or paris, or any other major city, it is because it is the major city. surely anyone can see that
except northerners perhaps
oh and for the record. when a tourist comes to the uk, where do they want to go? ermmmm. i shall leeve that up to you to think about but it certainly aint birmingham.
Smoke and mirrors
Re: IS IT
8th Feb 2012 - 5:29pm
starlightcouple wrote:
all you do is moan about how much london or the south gets in comparrison to the rest of the country but london is your biggest gripe.
see you contradict yourself all the time. it is plain to see that someone up north has a constant pop because they moan about there bit of the country is not getting the same investments. oh and yes the national stadium should be in london, for the same reesons that the olympic stadium is as well
birmingham? i am sure there are many peeple outside of london who would love to have birmingham as its capital. will have to see if we can move buck house and the houses of parliament up there as well. have they got enough space in crossroads county?
not another moan is it
see what we have to put up with in london?? i can tell you what, there are bigger slums and lack of money spent in london than anywhere else. they have mentioned too boroughs in london but there are many many more places than those. stratford before the stadium had been screaming out for development since just after the war, it was virtually a slum and had been for yeers. there is no north south divide, only green eyed northerners who THINK there is a divide.
WAGES my friend. WAGES.
all of what you say above is just one contradiction after another. you dont like london etc etc etc. fine i am sure london can do without your good self. for me? i love london and the fact that we have the national stadium, and the olympic stadium, and the home of rugby, or as near to london as can be.
it happens in london for the same reesons it happens in new york, or paris, or any other major city, it is because it is the major city. surely anyone can see that except northerners perhaps
oh and for the record. when a tourist comes to the uk, where do they want to go? ermmmm. i shall leeve that up to you to think about but it certainly aint birmingham.
MidsCouple24 wrote:
Part of what you say is very true, but hate London, not at all, I am British to the core and it is our Nations Capital, I have and would again put my life on the line for it and what it stands for.
Part of what you say is very true, but hate London, not at all, I am British to the core and it is our Nations Capital, I have and would again put my life on the line for it and what it stands for.
all you do is moan about how much london or the south gets in comparrison to the rest of the country
but london is your biggest gripe.
MidsCouple24 wrote:
What I do hate is how money is often channeled into the capital and it's surrounding areas that is denied to other developments, take Wembly stadium for instance, when funds were sought for the new stadium we struggled to raise the funds, we had to wait for the new stadium, yet all the while money was waiting and pledged to build a new National Stadium serving not only football but many other sports as well, all private money at no expense to the taxpayer, the problem, the money was available to build it in the centre of the country, between Birmingham and Coventry in an area that is already served well by rail, air and road links, has adequate accommodation and other facilities currently serving the NEC. Did the National Sports Stadium HAVE to be located in London ?
What I do hate is how money is often channeled into the capital and it's surrounding areas that is denied to other developments, take Wembly stadium for instance, when funds were sought for the new stadium we struggled to raise the funds, we had to wait for the new stadium, yet all the while money was waiting and pledged to build a new National Stadium serving not only football but many other sports as well, all private money at no expense to the taxpayer, the problem, the money was available to build it in the centre of the country, between Birmingham and Coventry in an area that is already served well by rail, air and road links, has adequate accommodation and other facilities currently serving the NEC. Did the National Sports Stadium HAVE to be located in London ?
see you contradict yourself all the time. it is plain to see that someone up north has a constant pop because they moan about there bit of the country is not getting the same investments. oh and yes the national stadium should be in london, for the same reesons that the olympic stadium is as well
birmingham? i am sure there are many peeple outside of london who would love to have birmingham as its capital. will have to see if we can move buck house and the houses of parliament up there as well. have they got enough space in crossroads county?
MidsCouple24 wrote:
How many projects outside the Capital were financed for the Millenium, did anyone consider building a Dome elsewhere, would the failed Millenium Bridge have been better located elsewhere ?
How many projects outside the Capital were financed for the Millenium, did anyone consider building a Dome elsewhere, would the failed Millenium Bridge have been better located elsewhere ?
not another moan is it
MidsCouple24 wrote:
I feel sorry for Londoners, yes there is a lot of money pumped into the Capital that could be better used elsewhere but they are also taken advantage of, congestion tax, parking fees outside your own homes, (I can park 9 cars on the street directly outside my house at no cost whatsoever) extortionate council tax rates and more, but this thread was asking what other people thought about the divide, because I don't know all the answers and wondered what other people thought, average people not the media and not the Government.
I feel sorry for Londoners, yes there is a lot of money pumped into the Capital that could be better used elsewhere but they are also taken advantage of, congestion tax, parking fees outside your own homes, (I can park 9 cars on the street directly outside my house at no cost whatsoever) extortionate council tax rates and more, but this thread was asking what other people thought about the divide, because I don't know all the answers and wondered what other people thought, average people not the media and not the Government.
see what we have to put up with in london??
i can tell you what, there are bigger slums and lack of money spent in london than anywhere else. they have mentioned too boroughs in london but there are many many more places than those. stratford before the stadium had been screaming out for development since just after the war, it was virtually a slum and had been for yeers. there is no north south divide, only green eyed northerners who THINK there is a divide.
MidsCouple24 wrote:
I also wondered if anyone could justify the price difference between a house here (mine has a total of 12 rooms @ £120,00 and a similar property ANYWHERE south of Watford ? I really would like to know why there is such a huge difference in the cost, I know views, schools, transport links and so on make a difference but what makes such a huge difference ?
I also wondered if anyone could justify the price difference between a house here (mine has a total of 12 rooms @ £120,00 and a similar property ANYWHERE south of Watford ? I really would like to know why there is such a huge difference in the cost, I know views, schools, transport links and so on make a difference but what makes such a huge difference ?
WAGES my friend. WAGES.
all of what you say above is just one contradiction after another. you dont like london etc etc etc. fine i am sure london can do without your good self. for me? i love london and the fact that we have the national stadium, and the olympic stadium, and the home of rugby, or as near to london as can be.
it happens in london for the same reesons it happens in new york, or paris, or any other major city, it is because it is the major city. surely anyone can see that
except northerners perhaps
oh and for the record. when a tourist comes to the uk, where do they want to go? ermmmm. i shall leeve that up to you to think about but it certainly aint birmingham.
The subject obviously bothers you a lot more than it bothers Northerners, oh dear someone commented on where you live (thats the South not London) and you get your knickers in a right old twist trying to defend it with mentions of a few areas that could do with refurbishment, well there are a lot of places outside London that could do with that as I am sure everyone will agree. Tourists, as far as I am aware visit many places in the UK, Devon, Cornwall, Stratford, Stoke on Trent, The Lake District, Wales, Scotland and Blackpool are a few of the many popular places.
The high salaries paid in London are not WHY people choose to pay higher prices they are paid BECAUSE people have to pay higher prices.
Who asked for a change of Capital, please do tell me ? why do certain places like stadiums and the like HAVE to be in the Capital ? Why don't you add constructive answers instead of insulting people who have a different opinion to you, are we not allowed our own personal opinion without being insulted, called "green eyed" jealous people, moaning is not having an opinion, moaning is having a go at people who wish to understand things better by asking the questions not living in thier own little world of beliefs, this thread ASKED the question of what others thought and IF others were affected by what some call the divide, why are you so defensive and aggressive in your response ?
I do believe there is a North/South divide but, and I say this again, because I do not understand everything, I asked for other peoples opinion, you obviously do not care what others think because you have decided there is no divide and that is the end of it for you.
And ...... since you keep quoting all the things London has have a look at the crime figures, drug dependency figures and homeless figures, there are some other league tables you can talk about being top of
Re: IS IT
8th Feb 2012 - 5:35pm
Re: IS IT
8th Feb 2012 - 6:35pm
HnS wrote:
Mids
chill, some are just not worth the time nor effort
Mids
chill, some are just not worth the time nor effort
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