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Threads that get locked for a few petty comments, when a warning used to be issued.
Is this an adult site or not?
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Is this an adult site or not?
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
st3v3 wrote:
Shit happens, sometimes locking is needed when things get out of hand, a little bit of common sense would help a lot from those that prefer to trade insults rather than stick to the subject in hand.
Shit happens, sometimes locking is needed when things get out of hand, a little bit of common sense would help a lot from those that prefer to trade insults rather than stick to the subject in hand.
I agree common sense should used, shame really that it had to be you that locked the Pope thread where it was about as offensive as it gets.
Yet a moderator issued a only a warning before you locked it.
why was that? I am sure some members would be interested to know why the inconsistency.
Davey has said I can start another Council thread even though the last two were locked. It got to 24 pages and I cannot remember a thread that was not a sticky getting to that many pages.
Can I be bothered? Sorry st3v3 but not for a second.
I will let others start one up but to be honest I do not think they will be bothered either.
kentswingers777 wrote:
I agree common sense should used, shame really that it had to be you that locked the Pope thread where it was about as offensive as it gets.
Yet a moderator issued a only a warning before you locked it. why was that? I am sure some members would be interested to know why the inconsistency.
Davey has said I can start another Council thread even though the last two were locked. It got to 24 pages and I cannot remember a thread that was not a sticky getting to that many pages.
Can I be bothered? Sorry st3v3 but not for a second.
I will let others start one up but to be honest I do not think they will be bothered either.
st3v3 wrote:
Shit happens, sometimes locking is needed when things get out of hand, a little bit of common sense would help a lot from those that prefer to trade insults rather than stick to the subject in hand.
Shit happens, sometimes locking is needed when things get out of hand, a little bit of common sense would help a lot from those that prefer to trade insults rather than stick to the subject in hand.
I agree common sense should used, shame really that it had to be you that locked the Pope thread where it was about as offensive as it gets.
Yet a moderator issued a only a warning before you locked it.
why was that? I am sure some members would be interested to know why the inconsistency.
Davey has said I can start another Council thread even though the last two were locked. It got to 24 pages and I cannot remember a thread that was not a sticky getting to that many pages.
Can I be bothered? Sorry st3v3 but not for a second.
I will let others start one up but to be honest I do not think they will be bothered either.
there must alternative motives as i`ve seen threads far worse than this one
but if that's the rules then allow me to get the next thread i don`t like locked
strange that the personal comments where directed from people who have connections with the council as is the locker of the thread
Lizaleanrob wrote:
there must alternative motives as i`ve seen threads far worse than this one
but if that's the rules then allow me to get the next thread i don`t like locked
Self moderation would be better. If however, a member is still abusive or offensive then do feel free to raise a support ticket and each example will be looked at on a case by case basis
strange that the personal comments where directed from people who have connections with the council as is the locker of the thread
If you feel it is strange then do feel free to put in a report to admin
there must alternative motives as i`ve seen threads far worse than this one
but if that's the rules then allow me to get the next thread i don`t like locked
Self moderation would be better. If however, a member is still abusive or offensive then do feel free to raise a support ticket and each example will be looked at on a case by case basis
strange that the personal comments where directed from people who have connections with the council as is the locker of the thread
If you feel it is strange then do feel free to put in a report to admin
Dave_Notts
Dave__Notts wrote:
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
there must alternative motives as i`ve seen threads far worse than this one
but if that's the rules then allow me to get the next thread i don`t like locked
Self moderation would be better. If however, a member is still abusive or offensive then do feel free to raise a support ticket and each example will be looked at on a case by case basis
strange that the personal comments where directed from people who have connections with the council as is the locker of the thread
If you feel it is strange then do feel free to put in a report to admin
there must alternative motives as i`ve seen threads far worse than this one
but if that's the rules then allow me to get the next thread i don`t like locked
Self moderation would be better. If however, a member is still abusive or offensive then do feel free to raise a support ticket and each example will be looked at on a case by case basis
strange that the personal comments where directed from people who have connections with the council as is the locker of the thread
If you feel it is strange then do feel free to put in a report to admin
Dave_Notts
far better for people to make up their own minds like this dave
don't ya think
i feel it wouldn`t get a proper hearing with admin....... jmho
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it ....again some spoil a good long running thread (pampering to others needs again )
or the council workers secret hand shake club
Lizaleanrob wrote:
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it
Thank you for demonstrating self moderation. This is a perfect example of why the thread was locked. It turned abusive and offensive.
Dave_Notts
Dave__Notts wrote:
Thank you for demonstrating self moderation. This is a perfect example of why the thread was locked. It turned abusive and offensive.
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it
Thank you for demonstrating self moderation. This is a perfect example of why the thread was locked. It turned abusive and offensive.
Dave_Notts
tell me dave was those who where abusive dealt with under the rules of the aup then
Lizaleanrob wrote:
tell me dave was those who where abusive dealt with under the rules of the aup then
Dave__Notts wrote:
Thank you for demonstrating self moderation. This is a perfect example of why the thread was locked. It turned abusive and offensive.
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it
Thank you for demonstrating self moderation. This is a perfect example of why the thread was locked. It turned abusive and offensive.
Dave_Notts
tell me dave was those who where abusive dealt with under the rules of the aup then
Other members moderation is not open for public debate. If you wish to discuss yours then do feel free to PM and I or admin will discuss it with you.
Dave_Notts
Dave__Notts wrote:
Other members moderation is not open for public debate. If you wish to discuss yours then do feel free to PM and I or admin will discuss it with you.
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
tell me dave was those who where abusive dealt with under the rules of the aup then
Dave__Notts wrote:
Thank you for demonstrating self moderation. This is a perfect example of why the thread was locked. It turned abusive and offensive.
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it
Thank you for demonstrating self moderation. This is a perfect example of why the thread was locked. It turned abusive and offensive.
Dave_Notts
tell me dave was those who where abusive dealt with under the rules of the aup then
Other members moderation is not open for public debate. If you wish to discuss yours then do feel free to PM and I or admin will discuss it with you.
Dave_Notts
i don't want to discuss it in pm Dave i like here where everyone can see it and make their up their own mind
two people with connections with a council make abusive/personal comments with the sole purpose of getting the thread locked
and you with connections to a council oblige by locking it
how the fuck do think this looks
look at it as a public support ticket
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Dave__Notts wrote:
Thank you for demonstrating self moderation. This is a perfect example of why the thread was locked. It turned abusive and offensive.
Dave_Notts
Lizaleanrob wrote:
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it
locking thread on this basis was bullshit and you know it
Thank you for demonstrating self moderation. This is a perfect example of why the thread was locked. It turned abusive and offensive.
Dave_Notts
WHY was the Pope thread not locked by Anais?
Calling the Pope a CUNT is not that offensive then?
Thankfully Steve had the common sense to do just that.
Locking the council thread as Rob has said, rubbish. Also as Rob has said there is no point going to admin as a Mods ruling is final. No redress....no arguement.
And we talk about common sense on here.
No doubt the next time I log on the steam room will have gone for a clean.
Last edited by on 8th Sep 2010 - 8:12am; edited 1 time in total
Locking threads isn't an exact science and the mod team have to make judgements, sometimes there's a lot of discussion in the mods lounge with regard to what would be for the best before any action is taken, Anais did attempt to pull the thread back on topic unfortunately that wasn't a success, hence the subsequent locking, an alternative may be to over moderate by removing every off topic post, here's one I did earlier http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/323504.html
Myself I don't think we should be going down that route, even if we did all we would end up with are constant debates aboiut how unfair every post removal was.
Myself I don't think we should be going down that route, even if we did all we would end up with are constant debates aboiut how unfair every post removal was.
st3v3 wrote:
Locking threads isn't an exact science and the mod team have to make judgements, sometimes there's a lot of discussion in the mods lounge with regard to what would be for the best before any action is taken, Anais did attempt to pull the thread back on topic unfortunately that wasn't a success, hence the subsequent locking, an alternative may be to over moderate by removing every off topic post, here's one I did earlier http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/323504.html
Myself I don't think we should be going down that route, even if we did all we would end up with are constant debates aboiut how unfair every post removal was.
Locking threads isn't an exact science and the mod team have to make judgements, sometimes there's a lot of discussion in the mods lounge with regard to what would be for the best before any action is taken, Anais did attempt to pull the thread back on topic unfortunately that wasn't a success, hence the subsequent locking, an alternative may be to over moderate by removing every off topic post, here's one I did earlier http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/323504.html
Myself I don't think we should be going down that route, even if we did all we would end up with are constant debates aboiut how unfair every post removal was.
For what its worth, I`m quite liking the new moderating that has been with us for the last couple of months or so but as you say it isn`t an exact science and some people will use different methods to others.
It`s good to see things changing
My only other comment would of course be to mention the constant insistance on privacy when issues regarding the rules are brought up. There can be no self moderation if people can still get banned for reasons not mentioned in the AUP.....or has that stopped now ?
st3v3 wrote:
Locking threads isn't an exact science and the mod team have to make judgements, sometimes there's a lot of discussion in the mods lounge with regard to what would be for the best before any action is taken, Anais did attempt to pull the thread back on topic unfortunately that wasn't a success, hence the subsequent locking, an alternative may be to over moderate by removing every off topic post, here's one I did earlier http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/323504.html
Myself I don't think we should be going down that route, even if we did all we would end up with are constant debates aboiut how unfair every post removal was.
Locking threads isn't an exact science and the mod team have to make judgements, sometimes there's a lot of discussion in the mods lounge with regard to what would be for the best before any action is taken, Anais did attempt to pull the thread back on topic unfortunately that wasn't a success, hence the subsequent locking, an alternative may be to over moderate by removing every off topic post, here's one I did earlier http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/323504.html
Myself I don't think we should be going down that route, even if we did all we would end up with are constant debates aboiut how unfair every post removal was.
Me neither, it leaves massive holes in the debate, or do you remove every post with a reply to one you remove too even if it has other points on, or do you just edit the reply bit out and leave the rest....
wow censorship in the extreme.
Still if it leaves a nice happy (castrated springs to mind) forum whats the harm? Right?
In edit: This doesn't mean I'm in any way in favour of the way things go sometimes, it just means I'm not in favour of this as a solution. I thought I better make THAT bit clear.
vampanya wrote:
Me neither, it leaves massive holes in the debate, or do you remove every post with a reply to one you remove too even if it has other points on, or do you just edit the reply bit out and leave the rest....
wow censorship in the extreme.
Still if it leaves a nice happy (castrated springs to mind) forum whats the harm? Right?
In edit: This doesn't mean I'm in any way in favour of the way things go sometimes, it just means I'm not in favour of this as a solution. I thought I better make THAT bit clear.
st3v3 wrote:
Locking threads isn't an exact science and the mod team have to make judgements, sometimes there's a lot of discussion in the mods lounge with regard to what would be for the best before any action is taken, Anais did attempt to pull the thread back on topic unfortunately that wasn't a success, hence the subsequent locking, an alternative may be to over moderate by removing every off topic post, here's one I did earlier http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/323504.html
Myself I don't think we should be going down that route, even if we did all we would end up with are constant debates aboiut how unfair every post removal was.
Locking threads isn't an exact science and the mod team have to make judgements, sometimes there's a lot of discussion in the mods lounge with regard to what would be for the best before any action is taken, Anais did attempt to pull the thread back on topic unfortunately that wasn't a success, hence the subsequent locking, an alternative may be to over moderate by removing every off topic post, here's one I did earlier http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/323504.html
Myself I don't think we should be going down that route, even if we did all we would end up with are constant debates aboiut how unfair every post removal was.
Me neither, it leaves massive holes in the debate, or do you remove every post with a reply to one you remove too even if it has other points on, or do you just edit the reply bit out and leave the rest....
wow censorship in the extreme.
Still if it leaves a nice happy (castrated springs to mind) forum whats the harm? Right?
In edit: This doesn't mean I'm in any way in favour of the way things go sometimes, it just means I'm not in favour of this as a solution. I thought I better make THAT bit clear.
It might have had something to do with one of the posters stated aim to get threads locked if they didn`t like them. Seems perfectly reasonable to delete some posts in that particular case when it seemed clear that they had posted with the sole intention of getting the thread locked.
Censorship
8th Sep 2010 - 12:56pm
The populist authoritarianism that is the downside of political correctness means that anyone, sometimes it seems like everyone, can proclaim their grief and have it acknowledged. The victim culture, every sufferer grasping for their own Holocaust, ensures that anyone who feels offended can call for moderation, for dilution, and in the end, as is all too often the case, for censorship. And censorship, that by-product of fear - stemming as it does not from some positive agenda, but from the desire to escape our own terrors and superstitions by imposing them on others - must surely be resisted. ~Jonathon Green
I coudln't put it better myself.
Did someone say lollipops?
I coudln't put it better myself.
Did someone say lollipops?
vampanya wrote:
And isnt it a tad ironic that a thread about free speech should be more heavily censored than any I've ever witnessed on here?
There's really no point in posting anything if that's going to start being the norm.
And isnt it a tad ironic that a thread about free speech should be more heavily censored than any I've ever witnessed on here?
There's really no point in posting anything if that's going to start being the norm.
I was just illustrating a point, ironic I agree, btw: I don't believe that this should be the norm.
