steve_j wrote:
They have them delivered to "drop" addresses.
They have them delivered to "drop" addresses.
drop address
u seem to know a lot about this kinda thing steve
what network you on? 
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drop address
u seem to know a lot about this kinda thing steve
what network you on? 
steve_j wrote:
All the websites I have used require the 3 digit number eg play.com et al.
Majority fo websites require this now as they know they are liable to lose money if the card is counterfeit/stolen.
That was one of the reasons why the 3 digit number was used. as you had to be in posession of the card to make the purchase.
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They won't need the security number on the back to make an Internet purchase.
They won't need the security number on the back to make an Internet purchase.
All the websites I have used require the 3 digit number eg play.com et al.
Majority fo websites require this now as they know they are liable to lose money if the card is counterfeit/stolen.
That was one of the reasons why the 3 digit number was used. as you had to be in posession of the card to make the purchase.
Well, obviously the websites I use are not so careful
I ordered hotel accomodation recently over the phone and wasn't asked the security number, so I guess the practice doesn't happen that often
NN - yes, I wondered about the fact that an Internet purchase would have to be delivered to "somewhere" and that "somewhere must be a real place! I guess we shall see when the bank get back to me with more details.
I can't see how they could have purchased the phone any other way than the Net though......... I mean would someone really pinch my card for long enough to go to a phone shop and buy one over the counter? I guess they could say they forgot the PIN and fraud my sig instead.......... but then they would have had to put it back in my wallet without me noticing.... and even I'm not that dizzy........ or am I?
i think either way they bough it the fact is the chances are this is someone you know quite well, either a good friend or a family member cause, be honest, would you leave your wallet laying around for long enough for someone to used your bank card with someone you didn't feel you could trust?
And i think that would bother me more than the money going missing to be hoesnt
And i think that would bother me more than the money going missing to be hoesnt
bluexxx wrote:
Well, obviously the websites I use are not so careful
I ordered hotel accomodation recently over the phone and wasn't asked the security number, so I guess the practice doesn't happen that often
steve_j wrote:
All the websites I have used require the 3 digit number eg play.com et al.
Majority fo websites require this now as they know they are liable to lose money if the card is counterfeit/stolen.
That was one of the reasons why the 3 digit number was used. as you had to be in posession of the card to make the purchase.
Quote:
They won't need the security number on the back to make an Internet purchase.
They won't need the security number on the back to make an Internet purchase.
All the websites I have used require the 3 digit number eg play.com et al.
Majority fo websites require this now as they know they are liable to lose money if the card is counterfeit/stolen.
That was one of the reasons why the 3 digit number was used. as you had to be in posession of the card to make the purchase.
Well, obviously the websites I use are not so careful
I ordered hotel accomodation recently over the phone and wasn't asked the security number, so I guess the practice doesn't happen that often
I have to agree here. As you know blue, I spend a great proportion of my life in and out of hotels and they have never asked for the 3 digit security code when booking room space. This includes Travel Lodge, Travel Inn and Holiday Inn. After saying that they do ask for your card when actually booking in on the day. I think more firms and businesses are getting into card security now but its still a big problem. We all seem to live a cashless life more and more these days.
If you stand behind someone and just to one side at Tesco Petrol stations its very easy to see them punch in their pin number as the damn pin machine is facing everyone. Chip and pin only helps up to a point regarding fraud it certainly isnt the whole answer but not on Internet or Telephone mail order purchases at all.
I think many of us have been the subject of card fraud one way or another.
So what do I do with this shit Virgin phone then ?????
Judy
If Virgin had their act together, they could trace the phone by using it's <a href="http://www.numberingplans.com/index.php?goto=guide&topic=imei">IMEI number</a> and tell the police fairly accurately where it is next time it's used. Sadly, I don't think Virgin do have thier act together.
JudyTV wrote:
I have to agree here. As you know blue, I spend a great
So what do I do with this shit Virgin phone then ?????
Judy
I have to agree here. As you know blue, I spend a great
So what do I do with this shit Virgin phone then ?????
Judy
maybe we should open some kind of grave yard for out beloved unlike virgin phones
Mister_Discreet wrote:
If Virgin had their act together, they could trace the phone by using it's <a href="http://www.numberingplans.com/index.php?goto=guide&topic=imei">IMEI number</a> and tell the police fairly accurately where it is next time it's used. Sadly, I don't think Virgin do have thier act together.
If Virgin had their act together, they could trace the phone by using it's <a href="http://www.numberingplans.com/index.php?goto=guide&topic=imei">IMEI number</a> and tell the police fairly accurately where it is next time it's used. Sadly, I don't think Virgin do have thier act together.
the problem with mobile phones is...ermmm...well they mobile
naughtynymphos1 wrote:
maybe we should open some kind of grave yard for out beloved unlike virgin phones
maybe we should open some kind of grave yard for out beloved unlike virgin phones
Or better yet <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/essex/features/mobile_phones.shtml">donate them to charity</a>
Mister_Discreet wrote:
Or better yet <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/essex/features/mobile_phones.shtml">donate them to charity</a>
naughtynymphos1 wrote:
maybe we should open some kind of grave yard for out beloved unlike virgin phones
maybe we should open some kind of grave yard for out beloved unlike virgin phones
Or better yet <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/essex/features/mobile_phones.shtml">donate them to charity</a>
get lost i payed £250 for this phone 4 weeks ago
naughtynymphos1 wrote:
maybe we should open some kind of grave yard for out beloved unlike virgin phones
JudyTV wrote:
I have to agree here. As you know blue, I spend a great
So what do I do with this shit Virgin phone then ?????
Judy
I have to agree here. As you know blue, I spend a great
So what do I do with this shit Virgin phone then ?????
Judy
maybe we should open some kind of grave yard for out beloved unlike virgin phones
ERRRRRR Misquote / Context ..?????......I have to agree here. As you know blue, I spend a great So what do I do with this shit Virgin phone then:P ????? I didnt say it like that
You've been remixed!
I had a credit card cloned last Christmas, which I discoverd when I got my January statment. Unfortunately for the master criminal that did it he picked a card that I only use for bigger business expenses and the restaurant I used it at was the only place I had used it in three months! Busted!
What did amuse me though were the purchases (all on the internet), three lots of software and ...........
some sheet music!!
No porn, no jewellery, nothing. Software and sheet music!!
What did amuse me though were the purchases (all on the internet), three lots of software and ...........
some sheet music!!
No porn, no jewellery, nothing. Software and sheet music!!
JudyTV wrote:
No change there then
Judy
No change there then
Judy
Could have been worse, you might have been covered by the Crazy Frog!
naughtynymphos1 wrote:
drop address
u seem to know a lot about this kinda thing steve what network you on?
steve_j wrote:
They have them delivered to "drop" addresses.
They have them delivered to "drop" addresses.
drop address
u seem to know a lot about this kinda thing steve
what network you on? 
Vodaphone
and I have some mates who work for the Met. so they occasionally drop information on how they catch their clients.
Re: Bank Card Fraud
3rd Sep 2005 - 6:59pm
bluexxx wrote:
I got my bank statement this morning, to find that some thieving bastard has used my bank details to purchase themselves a Virgin Mobile Phone to the value of £139.99.
I got my bank statement this morning, to find that some thieving bastard has used my bank details to purchase themselves a Virgin Mobile Phone to the value of £139.99.
You had that much left in the bank, you lucky devil!
Scott
Re: Bank Card Fraud
3rd Sep 2005 - 7:09pm
Scott_bolton wrote:
You had that much left in the bank, you lucky devil!
Scott
bluexxx wrote:
I got my bank statement this morning, to find that some thieving bastard has used my bank details to purchase themselves a Virgin Mobile Phone to the value of £139.99.
I got my bank statement this morning, to find that some thieving bastard has used my bank details to purchase themselves a Virgin Mobile Phone to the value of £139.99.
You had that much left in the bank, you lucky devil!
Scott
Well yeah, I'm not short of a few bob (yeah right) hehehehehehehehehehe, so the sad fuck really missed out on the good phone he could have got instead of the shite Virgin waste of space hehehehehehehehehehehehe
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naughtynymphos1 wrote:
the problem with mobile phones is...ermmm...well they mobile
Mister_Discreet wrote:
If Virgin had their act together, they could trace the phone by using it's <a href="http://www.numberingplans.com/index.php?goto=guide&topic=imei">IMEI number</a> and tell the police fairly accurately where it is next time it's used. Sadly, I don't think Virgin do have thier act together.
If Virgin had their act together, they could trace the phone by using it's <a href="http://www.numberingplans.com/index.php?goto=guide&topic=imei">IMEI number</a> and tell the police fairly accurately where it is next time it's used. Sadly, I don't think Virgin do have thier act together.
the problem with mobile phones is...ermmm...well they mobile
Well yes, but if they're turned on with a SIM card in them then they're communicating with at least one cell, often two or three. The technology used can give an indication of the signal strength (so it knows when to change cells as you move around) which tells you roughly how far the 'phone is from the cell it's communicating with. If you've got data from two or three cells then finding the 'phone is a simple matter of drawing a few circles on a map and seeing where they intersect.
