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Oh dear... stones and glass houses comes to mind... hugggggs I know you meant well...

Actually I did notice that in the reply to my query about privacy guarantee was spelt wrong and I wondered if that was a 'get out clause' or just carelessness.

Hey ho... Derby should be interesting tonight if we were not otherwise engaged I'd be asking Calista and Morbius for details.

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elliot,

i'm sure you can understand why so many concerened posts here, SH has prided its self on being a FREE site, and what has happened has thrown all that to the wind, people are now so unsure about whats going to happen next, will we have to start digging in our pockets at some point??. if we do have to start paying at some point, then what will make this site so different to any other pay site.....nothing. so the attraction will be lost.

we are a community of friends, not just web based swingers.

i am forever the optimist, so will at least give it a chance, but at the end of the day, too many changes and people will leave.

if this has already been said, then sorry.

I can guarantee no one will need to dig into there pockets at any point, the sites current features will remain free to use, completly.

2257 has been seriously burning everyone, not just U.S.-based companies. Although my own websites are hosted in Ireland and created in the UK, I have still had to bend over backwards to satisfy the requirements of this far-reaching legislation, which appears to have permeated throughout the entirety of the internet, regardless of national borders.

I've had colleagues in the Czech Republic nearly lose their businesses because of this. They were quick to comply, though, and I now have on file copies of the passports or photo IDs for each and every person whom they've contracted to appear on my own websites. [To everyone: Thus, next time you're at an SH party and I've got my camera, please be sure to bring a valid photo ID along with you!]

So, until we know the implications of USC, Title 18, Section 2257 for the new-and-improved $H, I think it may be best to begin pulling our photo links until further notice. This may take a while, though, as there are quite a lot of them.

Cheers,
~Reese

P.S. to Elliot: Out of curiosity, in which country is the SH server located?

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Absolutely!



Yeah.... appalling behaviour.... and you wouldn't believe how many times we had to ask them for the most basic information about changes......... oh, and they didn't even want any of you lot to know about the change of ownership at all initially... cos it might upset you..........



I reckon all previously banned members should be allowed back to take advantage of the fantastic new features we will be getting

Mods will still be mods........... if we want to be



Absolutely.... the community will just up and leave if we don't like it..... there are plenty of places to go............. The spirit will not be broken, munches and parties can still happen even if we all decide to jump ship and set up home elsewhere

REMEMBER - it is JUST a website..... it is the community that matters





Oh, can't be arsed any more... I think you've all got the message that i think it's pants.

As you admit to not knowing the site too well, here's a bit of constructive feedback on your proposals...



One fundamantal point you may have missed about this site is that it's actually 4 different fairly insular communities, that only have limited cross-over.

1) The Cafe/Let's Meet Up crowd are the ones you are talking to now. We are probably the most resistant to change, and we are also quite possibly the biggest drain on bandwidth, racking up 1000s of page hits per day each.

2) The chatroom crowd. Lovely people, excellent speed readers, but have a tendency to press x dozens of times whenever someone they know turns up. The hardcore use MIRC and therefore probably can't be advertised to.

3) The Dogging Forum people. Some overlap with the rest of the site, but it can be seen as a bit of a ghetto. Not much revenue potential unless you can do a deal with NCP car parks.

4) Photo Ad users. As you know if you've looked at the traffic figures, this is the big bit of the site, but the crossover from there to the other parts isn't as big as you might imagine. Probably your best bet for money making, as this is the part of the site with the most transient visitors, and the part of the site that people would probably expect to be a commerical venture.

Because this site is so split, unless you want to drive traffic from one section to another, I don't really see the value of a unified log-in, tying in IRC will present headaches, and the ability to ban people from certain parts of the ite but ot others will need work to support.



The site already provides this! See "Personal Pages" on the lefthand menu. I assume you mean more photos in the photo ads, where there is a limit of 3? Nice, but non essential, and it will cost you a lot of bandwidth.



Hmm, we already have 'reply to photo ads', the ability to PVT in chat, and PM on the forum. Each has their uses, so unification seems once again to be tricky, and unnecessary.



As I have said before... nice, but difficult. The current resistance to camming can be seen by the site policy of only allowing people to mention camming in one single thread over in 'Let's Meet up'. I thnk there is potential for money making there, but probably not from the forum crowd.



We already have forum profiles, and the Photo Ads. Another idea thet I think falls into the 'diffcult and not really beneficial' category.



Again, nice, but problematic. People move about, can't spell, or wish to keep their location secret.



Long overdue... but has to be paid for somehow!



I'm glad to see you have lots of ideas, and a drive to make the site better. I'm sure the SH community will be happy to 'muck in' and help with suggestions and (where needed) manpower. You have bought access to this resource, so why not use it, and ask us how you could do things better or make money without driving us away?

well as a newbie i`m not sure what the hell is now going on!
but what i will say as a warning to the new addmin is this!!!!!!!
what exists will find a way to exist!!!!!!!
here or somewhere else!!!!!!
communitys will survive!!!!!!

So you will be affected by the legal points that Reese has introduced... I'm puzzled... I rent a whole stack of server space in the US... with Viaverio so I'm sure that you need to look into the points that Reese has introduced.

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