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  • (30) I do not think the SH changing hands will have any benefit to the community
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  • (80) Im sitting on the fence and waiting.
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19th Nov 2005 - 1:59am
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markz wrote:

Angel Chat wrote:

... how far would you have got if markz hadn't called you back? grin.gif


no actually

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icon_rolleyes.gif That was ET ya muppet icon_lol.gif

 

19th Nov 2005 - 2:13am
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WTF?????
Its all gone Pete Tong doh.gif
so do i get consulted on these great changes and additions? after all, i do own the entire copyright of everything flipa.gif (see below)
As a commercial venture, are you liable for what is posted on the site? in particular my little 'Banner Advert' below which is remarkably similar to a certain high street chain's. And what about Avatars? Now i'm guessing that Hat Trick, who's fine comedy series provided my avatar pic (and those of the various thieving toe rags on here, who shall remain nameless smackbottom.gif ) will not be losing sleep over it's unauthourised use, but as a company are you going to slap us with a big list of panicky rules on things like this and have some of the life strangled out of the postings, all in the name of legal safety?
And if you are liable for such legal issues are you also liable for the repair or replacement of computer keyboards following the regular 'just spat my tea out laughing' incidents caused by the content posted on your spangly new aquisition????
sorry if any of these questions have been answered, been away working and only read upto page 7, lost the will at that point.
Ta very much!!
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19th Nov 2005 - 2:20am
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gotta go now folks must check they ain't ditched the doggin' section (whoops Ghetto) yet

 

19th Nov 2005 - 2:30am
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I've read to page 15, and cant be arsed to go to page 19, so if theres any swingers left... do you fancy a fcuk with a skinny guy with missing teeth who smokes and has a alkihol problem?

If not... do you fancy keeping still and pretending to be asleep while I wank over you?

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19th Nov 2005 - 2:31am
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piercedJon wrote:

I've read to page 15, and cant be arsed to go to page 19, so if theres any swingers left... do you fancy a fcuk with a skinny guy with missing teeth who smokes and has a alkihol problem?

If not... do you fancy keeping still and pretending to be asleep while I wank over you?

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19th Nov 2005 - 2:32am
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Dear Elliot and Co,

as one of the "old timers" i agree that it is a bit of a shock.

i tend to think that if things are working well (wich they obviously are.... else you would not have been interested in buying the site would you?) then what is the need to change them.
in all honesty - appart from the site loading/working faster, none of the new things you are offering seem to be of interest to anyone who is already here.
... perhaps you could try and "sell" them to us.

you can dress is up in anyway you wish, but when a site is being run as to how to make the most profit rather than how to be the best swinging resource then i do not think you can honestly say that it is not going to change for the worse.

i DO actually wish you good luck in your venture, i for one wish to see this site continue to thrive, and if you can do that.. then thankyou and good on you.
i just hope that you will bear in mind that without the members this site is nothing more than a bit of bandwidth, so you may find that in trying to make it - you break it.

dont be put off by what may seem to be negative comments coming from a lot of us today, its natural that people to whom swinging heaven is a big part of their lives are going to have a bit of a knee jerk reaction to what essentially looks( at least for now) like bad news to us.

hopefully we are all imagining the worse and in a few months time will be praising you to the skys.

i would like to say thank you to Mark n Hellen for making this happen in the first place and for actually taking an interest.

if you can follow on in his footsteps then you wont go far wrong.

WBB
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19th Nov 2005 - 3:03am
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Tim and Lene wrote:

Martin & Elliot,

The mischevious part of me is thinking that if you want to make money from the site, why not charge the single guys to access the photo ads and give free premium membership to everyone else.

This is an unpopular thing to say, but it might help sort out some of the imbalances in who uses the photo ads part of the site. At the moment there are a LOT of single guys, compared to the number of couples/single females advertising for them.

Oh, do we get an invite to the Symbios Xmas party. icon_wink.gif


Which is one of the reasons that dispite classing myself as a swingle I wont go to a "swingers" club while single because its a rip off that fleeces the single male on the premis that single males that pay must be genuine "swingers" well its bolocks, its not about keeping the numbers of single males down its about making money... and quite frankly i'd rather apy 30 quid for a fuck with a woman of the night than pay 100 quid to join a "swingers" club and then pay 40 quid to enter each time I turned up when couples pay no membership and 20 quid and single women paid no membership and either nothing or 5 quid...

And people wonder why some "clubs" suffer from guys hunting in packs and following couples and single women... because they've paid and are damned well going to get their moneys worth... its as simple as that!

The excuse about numbers is bull shit as well, any idiot can count with ticks in three colomns "1=single males, 2=couples, 3=single fems" when one gets to high you say no more... you dont need to introduce addition charges to keep the numbers equal... if you do then some clubs would pay couples and single females to show up... but then again, thats prostitution and not swinging.. but seems ok to charge guys to turn up in the hope that some women and couples will put out...why do you think a club in leics has a bad rep?

I;'m playing devils advocate here... so dont take any of this personally!

If you look at the numbers (within the sections of Sh adverts)... a huge percentage is guys looking for guys... so perhaps the site should ban all couples and just accept gay people and block all the bi-sexual and straight couples that want to meet others?

Having been on the swinging sceen for 19 years both as a swingle and a couple... its about being able to accept people wanting sexual fun... the moment a section is excluded or included by ability to pay then the whole thing falls down and no matter how its dressed up its paying for sex even if the money doesnt find its way to thoes that swing and its a club or internet company making the money it can with a leap of mind be classed as prostitution, which is why a club in leics has such a bad rep.... let as many guys in as pay, and who gives a shit about the couples or the single women because they dont pay!

Swinging is about sex, its about fucking with no strings attatched its a basic physical need or urge between concenting adults.... introduce money anywhere into the equation and its no longer swinging its some one wanting to make money out of people having sex, which potentially is prostitution "you pay your buck, you gets your fuck"

While any venue, club, or web site has to pay its way charging disparit costs depending on sex is to my mind wrong and were it not for the loop hole of "private membership" would be violating the sexual equality act... perhaps we should charge couples and single women looking for single guys more as they might be classed as desperate for a good shag? And although I shouldnt have to say it... i'm playing devils advocate again just incase some dont get my inane sence of the bizarre.

 

19th Nov 2005 - 3:15am
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Dawn_Mids wrote:

piercedJon wrote:

I've read to page 15, and cant be arsed to go to page 19, so if theres any swingers left... do you fancy a fcuk with a skinny guy with missing teeth who smokes and has a alkihol problem?

If not... do you fancy keeping still and pretending to be asleep while I wank over you?

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Damn dawn you laughed at that adn then I went all serious a couple of post later... but any time you want thoes nipples of your covered in spunk....

I'm sure I could either do the job for real, or i'm really good using photoshop to fake it if not icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

 

19th Nov 2005 - 3:21am
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Angel Chat wrote:

Ice Pie wrote:

And all the single males leave. And then......?


And then Angel never ever gets a shag again icon_cry.gif icon_cry.gif upset.gif


Do you do titty wanks? If so I may be talked into satisfying you at the same time, justdepends if you can move as well as your AV as i've had plenty of wanks looking at it icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif icon_eek.gif icon_biggrin.gif

 

19th Nov 2005 - 3:28am
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surprised to hear this at the social tonight icon_eek.gif

couldnt give a fluck but for one thing,, the site is built on trust although we didnt know Mark others we knew did and they trusted him,

you new kids on the block have a long way to go to get there

staggy and wild rose

btw



all pics withdrawn as for all we know you could be the daily sport!!!!

 

19th Nov 2005 - 3:35am
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Well I understand peeps need to go to bed, but having started reading this thread I had to read to the end and now I knackered... Still I think as a longish term member I need to put an oar in here as well. (Would have said this earlier but was going to see new HP movie)...

So first off, Mark you still have to meet me one day... no sneaking off. It was really good to see from Martin that you are, and will remain a member. I can understand taking a few steps back for a while (got to allow new people room without seeming like a shadow) but I hope to see you around again one day with your lovely wife. Thank you for all your hard work over the last few years.

Martin and Elliot, well quite a day you peeps have had. I think you have seen a lot of all the sides of us today, and reading your responses has given me what I hope is a good insight into your heads. I would say Martin that you should not take things to heart, especially now. However I respect your wish to defend your company that you and collegue built up. If you come to hold the SH community in similar regard to your company we will have nothing to fear. Elliot however, you seem as mad as the rest of us, sure you will find this an interesting challenge to work on technically.

So here we are then, new owners, new options. It is not all doom and gloom peeps. Lets be honest, poor Mark did not have the time to put into creating any new features. I will miss him loads, but there is more that could be offered. We may not want all of it, but if the site will continue around a free forum board and free basic adds system and chatroom what do we lose? People have mentioned the law (and I have a lot of respect for Reese), but we already comply with it as Mark did not want to get sued anymore than our new owners. It should not really be different. As for our moderators, they are great peeps and I hope they will want to remain mods for the same reason we want to be members, our friendships on here.

So lets see how this pans out. After all the secrecy is not unusual in negotiations like this. I have been in a number of company takeovers (I keep working for good companies other people want) and as others said it was not that bad in the end. Deep breaths my friends, we are all still here, the site is still here, and for now it is safe and free and they plan to keep what is here now intact. The new thing is add on services that will be charged for if you want them, and some people will. If this helps pay for development and bandwidth it is better than the site going the way of the dodo.

To counter my friend Ice and some others I do not feel our new owners have lied. In fact they have been inherantly rather honest, some may say too honest. The words have been typed add hock, the minor inconsistancies only go to show this is not big corporate marketing gibberish but real thoughts from real people. I for one prefer that to a politician with every question prepared, his answers learned rote, and repeated over and over...

I look forward to the new features, but I must agree that verification is a bad idea, see the thread from a few months back. Locations drop down wins me on spot, dreamed of that for ages... More photos, hey ho no fuss either way. However if you could offer a better photo upload with automatic resize on the fly that would be helpful icon_biggrin.gif (Not to me with my MCSE and techy job, but to all those normal people out there icon_smile.gif )

 

19th Nov 2005 - 4:47am
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Its 4 in the morning and if none of this makes much sense then apologies in advance.

Seems like an awful lot of stuff has come and gone since i first ventured onto the net in 1993 (feels like a long time ago) I guess the main thing here is the site isnt shutting up shop - a few few fave places i've frequented can now only be found on web.archive.org icon_sad.gif

Technically if the changes are similar to those that happened to say friendsreunited (a some extra tab thingies that nobody uses - well not me anyway) then i dont suppose
it will be that big of a deal.

What is an issue is the role of the mods and ops - there is currently continuity running through from when the current forums were created to the present day and significant numbers of people developed with the site as mark created it. Its called having a stake in something and seeing it grow - loyalty if you like.
I know for a fact the amount of time Jags spends clearing tossers out of the ghetto forums and i'm sure all the other mods/ops are just as dedicated. In my experience you only get that level of volunteer effort in non profit organisations - there are plenty of examples around if you think about it community centres, preserved railways etc. where folk have a passion for whatever it is theyre supporting. Now thats fine as long as everyone feels equal but when said company starts taking a profit then your volunteers are going to be less enthusiastic about clearing out the sludge. Okay so they could be paid but i cant see there is going to be the level of recompense required to keep these gals/guys doing the shittier end of the job.
Loose that control and thats the end of of the forums (cant comment on chat cos i dont go there) its probably worth remembering that controlling the idiots on a site like this takes a *lot* more effort and judgement than your average technical discussion site.

I might be wrong but it seems to me that the current status quo is going to be difficult to maintain.

At the end of the day the site is basically an irc server/channel and a phpBB bulletin board that happens to have a loyal following and some *very* dedicated volunteers. Some new fetures might work but theyre only going to be worthwhile if they increase the userbase and personally i dont understand where that increase is going to come from because the high volume supply of punters is currently (rightly) modded out due to lack of maturity / general lack of braincell functionality (i'm talking about the can i have a shag tonight? brigade).
(I was going to say something about video and preferring to use MSN but i'm suffering severe brainfade and need to get some sleep.)

Catch you all soon

Nallers (AKA Jags technical support service)

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19th Nov 2005 - 6:47am
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wow elliot 75 posts in one day thats gotta be some kind of record!! icon_lol.gif
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19th Nov 2005 - 6:54am
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Morning all

Just read the 10 pages or so that arrived overnight.

Where is the choccie?

Who is cooking Breakfast, bacon roll over here, please

Elliot:- did the cans of beer last you or did you have to send out for extra supplies? do you need a new comfy chair? and have you settled in yet? icon_lol.gif

 

19th Nov 2005 - 8:10am
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Just a thought and not sure if it has already been said but........
as we are a comunity and we see the site not been run right then we can move as a comunity and set up elswhere there are plenty of FREE places out there in the world of the internet so word of warning to Elliot and the others ( sorry can not name them as Elliot is the main one doing the answering and i feel a little sorry for him bet he could do with a special BJ right now) keep the site the way we like it or lose us all and have an empty site .......

 

19th Nov 2005 - 8:40am
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Well good morning Elliot and friends icon_biggrin.gif

Hows the head this morning icon_lol.gif Are the fingers stiff and sore from typing so much and the neck and back aching from being hunched over the computer?

Well come along to the SH Towers massage parlour where myself, Olive and a few others are qualified masseuse's and are ready with the warmed oils to ease your aching muscles, clear your head,
Then I'm sure the SH chefs will have a nice breakfast waiting for you before you sit down to another day of the 'addictive' SH lifestyle.

kaz xxxxxxxxxx icon_biggrin.gif

morning

19th Nov 2005 - 8:45am
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kazswallows wrote:

Well good morning Elliot and friends icon_biggrin.gif

Hows the head this morning icon_lol.gif Are the fingers stiff and sore from typing so much and the neck and back aching from being hunched over the computer?

Well come along to the SH Towers massage parlour where myself, Olive and a few others are qualified masseuse's and are ready with the warmed oils to ease your aching muscles, clear your head,
Then I'm sure the SH chefs will have a nice breakfast waiting for you before you sit down to another day of the 'addictive' SH lifestyle.

kaz xxxxxxxxxx icon_biggrin.gif


What if they take the wrong turning, and end up with marcuso in the Dungeon icon_question.gif

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19th Nov 2005 - 8:46am
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Hopefully by now you are starting to get an understanding of what is site is all about and what it means to the people on here. This is not a normal swinging site; it has a uniqueness that puts it above all the others. Remember if you break the heart of this community, you will lose what makes this such a successful site

Life is all about change, some good, some bad and we have to accept that this site is going to change, hopefully for the better (but hard to improve an already excellent site, thanks to Mark, Helen and everyone else here). Time will tell if your company made the right choice or not, for everyone on here we do hope you get it right, or you will not a base to work with

Sussex2

 

19th Nov 2005 - 8:46am
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kazswallows wrote:

Well good morning Elliot and friends icon_biggrin.gif

Hows the head this morning icon_lol.gif Are the fingers stiff and sore from typing so much and the neck and back aching from being hunched over the computer?

Well come along to the SH Towers massage parlour where myself, Olive and a few others are qualified masseuse's and are ready with the warmed oils to ease your aching muscles, clear your head,
Then I'm sure the SH chefs will have a nice breakfast waiting for you before you sit down to another day of the 'addictive' SH lifestyle.

kaz xxxxxxxxxx icon_biggrin.gif


Kaz

You tart, icon_lol.gif you missed me out, can I cum and help on my way to Manchester for a short while! icon_twisted.gif

off to get more beer for Elliot and his gang..........

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Devon1 wrote:

kazswallows wrote:

Well good morning Elliot and friends icon_biggrin.gif

Hows the head this morning icon_lol.gif Are the fingers stiff and sore from typing so much and the neck and back aching from being hunched over the computer?

Well come along to the SH Towers massage parlour where myself, Olive and a few others are qualified masseuse's and are ready with the warmed oils to ease your aching muscles, clear your head,
Then I'm sure the SH chefs will have a nice breakfast waiting for you before you sit down to another day of the 'addictive' SH lifestyle.

kaz xxxxxxxxxx icon_biggrin.gif


What if they take the wrong turning, and end up with marcuso in the Dungeon icon_question.gif

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I'm sure Dawn will be along any minute with her crowd control barriers.


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