Elliott, Martin & Co
Could I make a suggestion (i did it earlier but it may have been lost in the crowd)...
Perhaps a New Ownership FAQ thread.
Lock it immediately and only the Admins can post on it.
Have a single post with a summary of all the questions and your replies.
You can update it when a new question is raised.
That way people will not have to wade thru this entire thread to see if a Q has been asked (and answered) already.
Just a thought that may help a little!
Hugs,
Alex x
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i noticed that you said the chatroom will be flash based
could i point out that some members suffer with ill health and having something that flashes at that could effect them and make them ill which is why vivid colour fonts are banned i for one wouldent like to see my freinds back in hospital because of that been there before and it wasnt nice having the worry
many thanks
It isn't a chatroom that flashes Voddy, it's flash based, flash being like mIRC/Java. It is a bit like the 2 combined from what I can gather
Shireen
xxx
Edited to add..... Just been in a flash based chatroom and it is just like Java..... It's gonna take some erm........ getting used to....
Last edited by on 19th Nov 2005 - 6:19pm; edited 1 time in total
For a comapny that spent so much time looking at the site you seem to have no idea of how strongly the people here care for each other I have looked at your company website and would also like to know who the other 3 of the 14 people are as there are only 11 people listed on the site what is your and their interest in a Swinging Site if not for the database of people using that site. Lets face it from your answers to the questions your stonewalling the members.
If that is gonna be the basis for the new chatroom then you can count me out.....
I wont be using it at all..
Dogging locations are to be kept secret between the participants involved surely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you find you will have a few angry people if they follow up on your suggestion
I think you should read the dogging faq, then you will understand what i was getting at
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/5700.html
here you go
oooops, sorry couldnt help myself 
All sounds pretty fair to me so far, Thanks for taking the time, a lot of companies would not have bothered and just got on and done it, respect for that at least.
I have to say I think this statement, by way of example, captures a lot of the spirit of SH. I am encouraged.
- (30) I do not think the SH changing hands will have any benefit to the community
- (15) I do think the SH changing hands will be beneficial to the community
- (80) Im sitting on the fence and waiting.
Questions for Elliot or Martin...............
I posted this on page 13 of this thread but obviously with the amount of posts on here it's been overlooked, so I will take the opportunity to expand on my original questions, and could you answer when you get a mo...........
1). Do you intend to make Swinging Heaven an International site like Dating online? (I see they carry ads from people all over the place). This could have a dramatic affect on the communities that exist on the Forums and in the chatrooms
2). Munches are site sanctioned to the extent that they are organised by volunteers from the membership but run to a strict formula that is supported by SH...........will your organisation be prepared to allow this to continue?
Hope you can answer
M
I posted this on page 13 of this thread but obviously with the amount of posts on here it's been overlooked, so I will take the opportunity to expand on my original questions, and could you answer when you get a mo...........
1). Do you intend to make Swinging Heaven an International site like Dating online? (I see they carry ads from people all over the place). This could have a dramatic affect on the communities that exist on the Forums and in the chatrooms
2). Munches are site sanctioned to the extent that they are organised by volunteers from the membership but run to a strict formula that is supported by SH...........will your organisation be prepared to allow this to continue?
Hope you can answer
M
Elliot wrote:
Sorry for delayed reply, I have been behind the scenes sorting more stuff out, pm’s etc etc.
Ok 5 pages to catch up on, probably by the time I’ve wrote this it will be 8!
I have read ALL of the replies, and taken them on board, I have only replied to those who asked direct questions though, as it was just simply to many
If I missed any please re-post.
Froggystyle – Point taken about the 4 different communities, I didn’t realise it was such a split, no doubt there are people that use some/all, and/or drift between. Providing one overall login is a fairly easy thing to do, and will provide us a much better way of keeping track of everything, who knows it may be a good thing in the long run, inviting people to explore more of the site and make the most of it.
Unlimited pics – indeed personal pages, but not everyone can do html, an easy to use personal gallery to manage your pics will be a nice touch.
Video chat room – some people like it, some don’t. We will be providing non cam rooms, as well as private rooms, so thres plenty of scope there to suite everyone.
User profile – a unified page which will become the focal point for most of the new features, fully customisable profiles, public and private galleries etc etc, perhaps it doesn’t seem overly beneficial at the moment, but you may find it quite nice when its up and running.
Distance display etc – just a minor part of the profile this, users will have the option to hide it, it will be based on a postcode, so spelling not important.
Speed – glad you agree with this one, a new high spec server and optimised code will ensure this.
Finally – thanks for you input, and yes we will be asking for suggestions, comments and any input anyone has on the stuff we have planned, it makes good sense to use the wealth of experience from this community.
Osmosis – As above, private galleries with invite only will be a main feature. The chatroom will be flash based (much nicer than java). With the distance comes location search, as the crow flys distance searching etc, as well as a whole load of new search criteria.
meat2pleaseu – There are no legal implications from avatars, sigs, banners etc etc, nor what is said, things will carry on as normal.
well_busty_babe – thanks for the kind words, from a web developers point of view (experienced in swinging and dating sites) I can say there are many things that I think can be added to this site, which will be a benefit to existing members and newbies a like. I think the best thing I can say is wait and see what you think, ill try my hardest not to disappoint.
Tallnhairy – thanks for the kind words, verification will NOT be implemented judging by the reaction on here.
Nallers – the mods role as such will not change, I can understand what you are saying about the dedication to a non profit organisation vs a commercial entity, this is something we will need to think and talk about, and see what happens.
Sarah – beer lasted thank god, my energy didn’t however
Joanne-ish – we won’t be doing anything to the site that people won’t like, we will make sure of that fact by keeping people involved all the way.
Kaz – im feeling really good odley enough, considering the amount of alachol I consumed and the 14 hours sitting in virtually the same position
Bluexxx – ill drop you a PM in a minute, but in the meanwhile thanks for the thoughts, and I cannot apologise enough for how things went on Thursday and Friday. As you say we completely underestimated the community here, and made a right pigs ear of the changeover, its sad that we did not get off to a better start, but I hope we can build on this, I really do.
Heavysyandck – keep an eye out on Monday for a full rundown of the improvments in detail.
Happy Cats – spot on, although don’t forget that the current free features of the site will remain for new members too! So no one loses out.
Fabio – as said above verification will not be implemented due to the reaction received here!
Morbius – great read, and thanks for the luck. We understand that this site IS the community, and we will do everything we can to keep it that way.
Dargento – how did you manage to tap our phones?
Thanks to everyone for the input, im now off to tackle the inbox again
Sorry for delayed reply, I have been behind the scenes sorting more stuff out, pm’s etc etc.
Ok 5 pages to catch up on, probably by the time I’ve wrote this it will be 8!
I have read ALL of the replies, and taken them on board, I have only replied to those who asked direct questions though, as it was just simply to many
If I missed any please re-post.
Froggystyle – Point taken about the 4 different communities, I didn’t realise it was such a split, no doubt there are people that use some/all, and/or drift between. Providing one overall login is a fairly easy thing to do, and will provide us a much better way of keeping track of everything, who knows it may be a good thing in the long run, inviting people to explore more of the site and make the most of it.
Unlimited pics – indeed personal pages, but not everyone can do html, an easy to use personal gallery to manage your pics will be a nice touch.
Video chat room – some people like it, some don’t. We will be providing non cam rooms, as well as private rooms, so thres plenty of scope there to suite everyone.
User profile – a unified page which will become the focal point for most of the new features, fully customisable profiles, public and private galleries etc etc, perhaps it doesn’t seem overly beneficial at the moment, but you may find it quite nice when its up and running.
Distance display etc – just a minor part of the profile this, users will have the option to hide it, it will be based on a postcode, so spelling not important.
Speed – glad you agree with this one, a new high spec server and optimised code will ensure this.
Finally – thanks for you input, and yes we will be asking for suggestions, comments and any input anyone has on the stuff we have planned, it makes good sense to use the wealth of experience from this community.
Osmosis – As above, private galleries with invite only will be a main feature. The chatroom will be flash based (much nicer than java). With the distance comes location search, as the crow flys distance searching etc, as well as a whole load of new search criteria.
meat2pleaseu – There are no legal implications from avatars, sigs, banners etc etc, nor what is said, things will carry on as normal.
well_busty_babe – thanks for the kind words, from a web developers point of view (experienced in swinging and dating sites) I can say there are many things that I think can be added to this site, which will be a benefit to existing members and newbies a like. I think the best thing I can say is wait and see what you think, ill try my hardest not to disappoint.
Tallnhairy – thanks for the kind words, verification will NOT be implemented judging by the reaction on here.
Nallers – the mods role as such will not change, I can understand what you are saying about the dedication to a non profit organisation vs a commercial entity, this is something we will need to think and talk about, and see what happens.
Sarah – beer lasted thank god, my energy didn’t however
Joanne-ish – we won’t be doing anything to the site that people won’t like, we will make sure of that fact by keeping people involved all the way.
Kaz – im feeling really good odley enough, considering the amount of alachol I consumed and the 14 hours sitting in virtually the same position
Bluexxx – ill drop you a PM in a minute, but in the meanwhile thanks for the thoughts, and I cannot apologise enough for how things went on Thursday and Friday. As you say we completely underestimated the community here, and made a right pigs ear of the changeover, its sad that we did not get off to a better start, but I hope we can build on this, I really do.
Heavysyandck – keep an eye out on Monday for a full rundown of the improvments in detail.
Happy Cats – spot on, although don’t forget that the current free features of the site will remain for new members too! So no one loses out.
Fabio – as said above verification will not be implemented due to the reaction received here!
Morbius – great read, and thanks for the luck. We understand that this site IS the community, and we will do everything we can to keep it that way.
Dargento – how did you manage to tap our phones?
Thanks to everyone for the input, im now off to tackle the inbox again
i noticed that you said the chatroom will be flash based
could i point out that some members suffer with ill health and having something that flashes at that could effect them and make them ill which is why vivid colour fonts are banned i for one wouldent like to see my freinds back in hospital because of that been there before and it wasnt nice having the worry
many thanks
vodka_babe22uk wrote:
i noticed that you said the chatroom will be flash based
could i point out that some members suffer with ill health and having something that flashes at that could effect them and make them ill which is why vivid colour fonts are banned i for one wouldent like to see my freinds back in hospital because of that been there before and it wasnt nice having the worry
many thanks
i noticed that you said the chatroom will be flash based
could i point out that some members suffer with ill health and having something that flashes at that could effect them and make them ill which is why vivid colour fonts are banned i for one wouldent like to see my freinds back in hospital because of that been there before and it wasnt nice having the worry
many thanks
It isn't a chatroom that flashes Voddy, it's flash based, flash being like mIRC/Java. It is a bit like the 2 combined from what I can gather
Shireen
xxx
Edited to add..... Just been in a flash based chatroom and it is just like Java..... It's gonna take some erm........ getting used to....
Last edited by on 19th Nov 2005 - 6:19pm; edited 1 time in total
Flash is a dev tool for websites and it is one of the tools in the dreamweaver suite. See www.macromedia.com
st3v3 wrote:
I think Elliot's off getting some beer and I've only just finished reading this thread, we did look at SH for a long time and know that the community is the reason why the site is successful, we wouldn't want to do anything to change that. Also thanks to everyone that has spent a lot of time putting comments together for us.
I read earlier about concerns of privacy etc. But at this moment in time nothing has changed on the site and any changes made will have to ensure that no laws or acts or data protection or broken.
I think Elliot's off getting some beer and I've only just finished reading this thread, we did look at SH for a long time and know that the community is the reason why the site is successful, we wouldn't want to do anything to change that. Also thanks to everyone that has spent a lot of time putting comments together for us.
I read earlier about concerns of privacy etc. But at this moment in time nothing has changed on the site and any changes made will have to ensure that no laws or acts or data protection or broken.
For a comapny that spent so much time looking at the site you seem to have no idea of how strongly the people here care for each other I have looked at your company website and would also like to know who the other 3 of the 14 people are as there are only 11 people listed on the site what is your and their interest in a Swinging Site if not for the database of people using that site. Lets face it from your answers to the questions your stonewalling the members.
These are the answers for Him N Her
1. Absolutely and genuinely no idea if we will make this site international, my gut feeling is no but please do not beat me up for it!.
2. We will continue to support the munches and help out wherever we can, we do want to be actively involved here.
Here are a few other bits that have been asked for public airing over PM
1. Honestly we have not considered creating a Gay Dating part to the site, lets look at this after we have got the main site sorted out.
2. Again every single member on this site without exception will get the free premium membership upgrade.
3. After the first 12 months one of two things will happen
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
If you are not an active community participent then after 12 months free premium upgrade your account will be reduced to what you have now!. Then you can decide to use it like that or pay to have it as premium again to use the extra bells and whissles.
Basically this is the theory, we never want any of the existing community members to pay for anything. If you are active you will never pay!. If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.
Please please please, before i get kicked bitten and bruised again as I said we will discuss together what makes a community member and agree that before the 12 months are up.
1. Absolutely and genuinely no idea if we will make this site international, my gut feeling is no but please do not beat me up for it!.
2. We will continue to support the munches and help out wherever we can, we do want to be actively involved here.
Here are a few other bits that have been asked for public airing over PM
1. Honestly we have not considered creating a Gay Dating part to the site, lets look at this after we have got the main site sorted out.
2. Again every single member on this site without exception will get the free premium membership upgrade.
3. After the first 12 months one of two things will happen
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
If you are not an active community participent then after 12 months free premium upgrade your account will be reduced to what you have now!. Then you can decide to use it like that or pay to have it as premium again to use the extra bells and whissles.
Basically this is the theory, we never want any of the existing community members to pay for anything. If you are active you will never pay!. If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.
Please please please, before i get kicked bitten and bruised again as I said we will discuss together what makes a community member and agree that before the 12 months are up.
Shireen_Mids wrote:
It isn't a chatroom that flashes Voddy, it's flash based, flash being like mIRC/Java. It is a bit like the 2 combined from what I can gather
Shireen
xxx
Edited to add..... Just been in a flash based chatroom and it is just like Java..... It's gonna take some erm........ getting used to....
vodka_babe22uk wrote:
i noticed that you said the chatroom will be flash based
could i point out that some members suffer with ill health and having something that flashes at that could effect them and make them ill which is why vivid colour fonts are banned i for one wouldent like to see my freinds back in hospital because of that been there before and it wasnt nice having the worry
many thanks
i noticed that you said the chatroom will be flash based
could i point out that some members suffer with ill health and having something that flashes at that could effect them and make them ill which is why vivid colour fonts are banned i for one wouldent like to see my freinds back in hospital because of that been there before and it wasnt nice having the worry
many thanks
It isn't a chatroom that flashes Voddy, it's flash based, flash being like mIRC/Java. It is a bit like the 2 combined from what I can gather
Shireen
xxx
Edited to add..... Just been in a flash based chatroom and it is just like Java..... It's gonna take some erm........ getting used to....
If that is gonna be the basis for the new chatroom then you can count me out.....
I wont be using it at all..
Martin_M wrote:
These are the answers for Him N Her
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
p.
These are the answers for Him N Her
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
p.
Dogging locations are to be kept secret between the participants involved surely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you find you will have a few angry people if they follow up on your suggestion
Martin_M wrote:
Scooter
I said these will be agreed by the community they are examples only until the community decides what makes a community member. Perhaps you could put a suggestion forward for that in the next few months.
Scooter
I said these will be agreed by the community they are examples only until the community decides what makes a community member. Perhaps you could put a suggestion forward for that in the next few months.
I think you should read the dogging faq, then you will understand what i was getting at
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/5700.html
here you go
Martin_M wrote:
These are the answers for Him N Her
1. Absolutely and genuinely no idea if we will make this site international, my gut feeling is no but please do not beat me up for it!.
Sounds good so far
2. We will continue to support the munches and help out wherever we can, we do want to be actively involved here.
excellent
Here are a few other bits that have been asked for public airing over PM
1. Honestly we have not considered creating a Gay Dating part to the site, lets look at this after we have got the main site sorted out.
2. Again every single member on this site without exception will get the free premium membership upgrade.
Sounds even better
3. After the first 12 months one of two things will happen
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
No problem with that
If you are not an active community participent then after 12 months free premium upgrade your account will be reduced to what you have now!. Then you can decide to use it like that or pay to have it as premium again to use the extra bells and whissles.
OK, would not expect anything else
Basically this is the theory, we never want any of the existing community members to pay for anything. If you are active you will never pay!. If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.
Yup, perfectly agreeable
Please please please, before i get kicked bitten and bruised again as I said we will discuss together what makes a community member and agree that before the 12 months are up.
These are the answers for Him N Her
1. Absolutely and genuinely no idea if we will make this site international, my gut feeling is no but please do not beat me up for it!.
Sounds good so far
2. We will continue to support the munches and help out wherever we can, we do want to be actively involved here.
excellent
Here are a few other bits that have been asked for public airing over PM
1. Honestly we have not considered creating a Gay Dating part to the site, lets look at this after we have got the main site sorted out.
2. Again every single member on this site without exception will get the free premium membership upgrade.
Sounds even better
3. After the first 12 months one of two things will happen
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
No problem with that
If you are not an active community participent then after 12 months free premium upgrade your account will be reduced to what you have now!. Then you can decide to use it like that or pay to have it as premium again to use the extra bells and whissles.
OK, would not expect anything else
Basically this is the theory, we never want any of the existing community members to pay for anything. If you are active you will never pay!. If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.
Yup, perfectly agreeable
Please please please, before i get kicked bitten and bruised again as I said we will discuss together what makes a community member and agree that before the 12 months are up.
oooops, sorry couldnt help myself
All sounds pretty fair to me so far, Thanks for taking the time, a lot of companies would not have bothered and just got on and done it, respect for that at least.
Martin_M wrote:
If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.
If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.
I have to say I think this statement, by way of example, captures a lot of the spirit of SH. I am encouraged.
I know it has been asked, but try as I might, I cant find an answer 
Badges.........at munch events Ice Pie had/has permission to use the SH logo/s etc. He is our (for now as far as I know) still our resident badge maker for munches and sometimes socials. I work alongside him where I can and if he is not attending then I am his partner in crime and I make the badges, making them personal to the specific party.
So my question is, (at least for the foreseeable future) can we still use the designs/logos.
Badges.........at munch events Ice Pie had/has permission to use the SH logo/s etc. He is our (for now as far as I know) still our resident badge maker for munches and sometimes socials. I work alongside him where I can and if he is not attending then I am his partner in crime and I make the badges, making them personal to the specific party.
So my question is, (at least for the foreseeable future) can we still use the designs/logos.
On a related point we had a members 2006 calendar on the go. I would suggest we can it in the short term until everyone has had a chance to settle down. However I would be interested in the logo use as I have often done little bits n bobs with SH stuff. Notably last years calendar design.
