Have to admit though that I am a bum/legs man myself!
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Interesting that the same names keep turning up here! I saw this last night and considered my selection carefully only to find this morning that they are here anyway!
My three are:
Jonathon Woss - not funny at all (unless you like insults and someone trying to be Chubby Brown) and then he tries to be intellectual in his Film show.
Chris Evans - talentless git! :x
David Dickinson - just too orange! :lol:
The rest of the skittles would be made up of politicians, so called world leaders, idiot sportsmen etc.
McC
My three are:
Jonathon Woss - not funny at all (unless you like insults and someone trying to be Chubby Brown) and then he tries to be intellectual in his Film show.
Chris Evans - talentless git! :x
David Dickinson - just too orange! :lol:
The rest of the skittles would be made up of politicians, so called world leaders, idiot sportsmen etc.
McC
I do not think that there is a swinging gene as such, and I suppose it also depends on the definition of "swinging" and how far people want to go and what they want to do.
However, if you look at chimps, apes etc. they do not have monogomous relationships so maybe it could be argued that the monogomous state is something that society/religion has decreed. There are those though that would argue that we have developed monogomous relationships because humans are able to sustain them.
I think that there is a natural curiosity look at other people and imagining having sex with them and it is then a short step to actually living out the fantasy.
McC
However, if you look at chimps, apes etc. they do not have monogomous relationships so maybe it could be argued that the monogomous state is something that society/religion has decreed. There are those though that would argue that we have developed monogomous relationships because humans are able to sustain them.
I think that there is a natural curiosity look at other people and imagining having sex with them and it is then a short step to actually living out the fantasy.
McC
Well thank you ES!
Here I am, back at the flat after a very pleasent evening out. I ask a simple question and get an immediate bollicking! This is the sort of thing I might expect from the M2PU/Postie camp but never from your good self!
Is it my fault that you you have not complied with the latest EU directive that clearly states that all sex related web sites must be multi-lingual so that all people throughout Euroland can join in?
If you lot REALLY want problems I will start asking questions in Dutch!! :o
McC
Here I am, back at the flat after a very pleasent evening out. I ask a simple question and get an immediate bollicking! This is the sort of thing I might expect from the M2PU/Postie camp but never from your good self!
Is it my fault that you you have not complied with the latest EU directive that clearly states that all sex related web sites must be multi-lingual so that all people throughout Euroland can join in?
If you lot REALLY want problems I will start asking questions in Dutch!! :o
McC
When you mention this - yes I have to agree with you ES. I do not think it is being done for any dubious reasons however apart from the fact that some folk have no immagination.
As the old saying goes however, copying one person's work is plagiarism but copying the work of two people is research!
McC
As the old saying goes however, copying one person's work is plagiarism but copying the work of two people is research!
McC
But your little picture shows how great they really are!
(McC MUST learn how to do this )
I still reckon that the boys on here love fireworks and want to be in charge of a big display (pardon any pun) and that you are simply trying to stop all the men having any fun where you are not needed or involved. :lol:
Maybe you should consider how horny a guy gets after he has set off a couple of roman candles and wonders where to explode his rocket?
:lol:
McC
(McC MUST learn how to do this
)I still reckon that the boys on here love fireworks and want to be in charge of a big display (pardon any pun) and that you are simply trying to stop all the men having any fun where you are not needed or involved. :lol:
Maybe you should consider how horny a guy gets after he has set off a couple of roman candles and wonders where to explode his rocket?
:lol:
McC
Oh dear oh dear oh dear Amber! Now you have started me off
Fireworks are great - look at the professional displays that are put on all over the world for major occasions (Lord Mayors Show in London, Olympic games, Edinburgh Festival, Hogmany etc.)
Now while I agree that stroppy teenagers should be stopped from abusing fireworks I can not argue against big displays or even against Guy Fawkes night.
You are trying to stop big boys having their toys FFS :lol:
McC
Fireworks are great - look at the professional displays that are put on all over the world for major occasions (Lord Mayors Show in London, Olympic games, Edinburgh Festival, Hogmany etc.)
Now while I agree that stroppy teenagers should be stopped from abusing fireworks I can not argue against big displays or even against Guy Fawkes night.
You are trying to stop big boys having their toys FFS :lol:
McC
There is nothing wrong with fireworks - I love them myself and if I had my time again maybe I would be pyrothechnic specialist!
What is wrong though is kids letting them off in a dangerous manner - so do not blame fireworks which most people like - but the parents who allow their kids set them off and the police who do not stop it.
McC
What is wrong though is kids letting them off in a dangerous manner - so do not blame fireworks which most people like - but the parents who allow their kids set them off and the police who do not stop it.
McC
I know I am going to open a debate up here, BUT I have to answer Aspals.
Why do you complain about Enid Blyton books? They may or may not have been standards in childrens literature but they are now historical - the main arguement against them is that they reflected middle class life in Britain in the 1950s/1960s and the same can be said even for JK Rowling as all her characters are middle Blyton wrote her books (which are all about Britain and in particular England) we did not have a multi racial community so she was representing what was then a British point of view.
Little Black Sambo as a kids' storey is a reflection of British life in India but the book (as far as I can remember) never mentions a white kid and as such is a non racial storey about an Indian boy and a tiger.
Now I do see that the book showed a somewhat paternalistic view and I am of course sorry if anyone has suffered from remarks emanating from ignorant people reading the book and making comments.
However, as people who are British (no matter which football/cricket/rugby team me may support) we should recognise and accept what is part of our history (sorry personstory)
because by trying to hide or ban or rewrite these things I believe we are gong down a dangerous road.
If people - no matter who they are or where they are from - want to be British (or indeed Dutch/French or any other european nationality) then should they not accept that country's values?
We all live in the 21st century and those people that have respecting others views are of course right. The more the do-gooding liberals (note with a small "l") try and enforce change before allowing to happen naturally the more problems we will have. Refer to my earlier post about the NF councillor.
McC
Why do you complain about Enid Blyton books? They may or may not have been standards in childrens literature but they are now historical - the main arguement against them is that they reflected middle class life in Britain in the 1950s/1960s and the same can be said even for JK Rowling as all her characters are middle Blyton wrote her books (which are all about Britain and in particular England) we did not have a multi racial community so she was representing what was then a British point of view.
Little Black Sambo as a kids' storey is a reflection of British life in India but the book (as far as I can remember) never mentions a white kid and as such is a non racial storey about an Indian boy and a tiger.
Now I do see that the book showed a somewhat paternalistic view and I am of course sorry if anyone has suffered from remarks emanating from ignorant people reading the book and making comments.
However, as people who are British (no matter which football/cricket/rugby team me may support) we should recognise and accept what is part of our history (sorry personstory)
because by trying to hide or ban or rewrite these things I believe we are gong down a dangerous road.
If people - no matter who they are or where they are from - want to be British (or indeed Dutch/French or any other european nationality) then should they not accept that country's values?
We all live in the 21st century and those people that have respecting others views are of course right. The more the do-gooding liberals (note with a small "l") try and enforce change before allowing to happen naturally the more problems we will have. Refer to my earlier post about the NF councillor.
McC
People should also consider the implications of "enforcing" political correctness.
When I lived in London, the local school decided to change Christmas one year - no Christmas tree, Christmas carols, overtly Christian decorations etc. - and change it to something like a Festival of Lights as the traditional ceremony might offend some people. There was a lot of local opposition but it went ahead anyway.
Next local elections in May guess what happened?
The sitting councillor lost his seat and a National Front candidate was duly elected!!!!!
Nobody really wanted or expected this but if the professional education/council do-gooders had left well alone then I doubt the NF man would have had any publicity let alone have been elected which meant that his very wrong views suddenly were given credence.
McC
When I lived in London, the local school decided to change Christmas one year - no Christmas tree, Christmas carols, overtly Christian decorations etc. - and change it to something like a Festival of Lights as the traditional ceremony might offend some people. There was a lot of local opposition but it went ahead anyway.
Next local elections in May guess what happened?
The sitting councillor lost his seat and a National Front candidate was duly elected!!!!!
Nobody really wanted or expected this but if the professional education/council do-gooders had left well alone then I doubt the NF man would have had any publicity let alone have been elected which meant that his very wrong views suddenly were given credence.
McC
Well, I consider myself Scottish but I do not think I am a Celt - my family come from Orkney and the East of Scotland so my ancestors were resposible for pushing the Celts out!
This is not to say I do not like the Celtic traditions - music etc. - but over the generations these have become synonymous with Scotland/Ireland, probably because they are good antway! If you listen to Norwegian traditional music, you can hear the same melodies as in Celtic music and indeed the same tunes in Scotland/Ireland are known by different names. The same way that American traditional music/dance (e.g. bluegrass) has links to the old country it is hardly surprising that we all share a common cultural heritage.
As for where the name Scotland comes from, I have heared the Irish/Scottis arguement before and it is an accepted theory but do not forget that the name Alba was also used! You can look at different books/sites and come up with different theories all of which are equally valid.
And yes of course the northern region in Spain also has claims to be Celtic.
Confusing or what?
McC
This is not to say I do not like the Celtic traditions - music etc. - but over the generations these have become synonymous with Scotland/Ireland, probably because they are good antway! If you listen to Norwegian traditional music, you can hear the same melodies as in Celtic music and indeed the same tunes in Scotland/Ireland are known by different names. The same way that American traditional music/dance (e.g. bluegrass) has links to the old country it is hardly surprising that we all share a common cultural heritage.
As for where the name Scotland comes from, I have heared the Irish/Scottis arguement before and it is an accepted theory but do not forget that the name Alba was also used! You can look at different books/sites and come up with different theories all of which are equally valid.
And yes of course the northern region in Spain also has claims to be Celtic.
Confusing or what?
McC
Well Blue I suppose that as my mother is the big chief and in her 70s she can even tell the HoDs what she wants to be called! No further information being given on the forum for obvious reasons
What gets me is that I keep thinking of Cynthia Payne (I have met her but that is a different storey!) but surprisingly Ma does not see the joke.
Deep down I suspect that language changes as society changes and while I may not like poitical correctness, we could also blame US television, films etc.
You should read Bill Bryson's book Made in America to see how language grows, changes and moves on through the generations and it would be wrong to rey and stop that change. The French have the Acadamie Francais which is there solely to maintain the French language and they spend their time trying to devise French words for English language inventions such as Television. computer (ordinateur), week end etc.
While this is all pretty pointless I have a sneaking respect for their efforts!
McC
What gets me is that I keep thinking of Cynthia Payne (I have met her but that is a different storey!) but surprisingly Ma does not see the joke.
Deep down I suspect that language changes as society changes and while I may not like poitical correctness, we could also blame US television, films etc.
You should read Bill Bryson's book Made in America to see how language grows, changes and moves on through the generations and it would be wrong to rey and stop that change. The French have the Acadamie Francais which is there solely to maintain the French language and they spend their time trying to devise French words for English language inventions such as Television. computer (ordinateur), week end etc.
While this is all pretty pointless I have a sneaking respect for their efforts!
McC
I will try and answer this!
Just because you think or indeed are Scottish, Irish Welsh etc. does NOT mean that you are a Celt. The Celts were a race of people that were, over the centuries, pushed further and further out of their lands by invading Romans, Vikings, Danes, Angles, Saxons and anyone else you can think of until they were based on the margins of the countries they lived in. I consider myself Scottish certainly, but not specifically a Celt.
The Celtic language is recognised as being split into two distinct groups - Brythonic and (excuse spelling) Gadeilic. The Brythonic Celitic language is the language of the the French Breton people and is almost identical to the Welsh language (my sister in law is Breton French BTW). The Gadeilic language is the Gaellic of Scotland and Ireland and is virtually identical apart from the pronounciation etc. The Manx language also falls into this category.
The Cornish language whiich has almost died out falls into the Breton/Welsh group.
So who are the rest of us? Most of the East coast of Scotland can trace its roots to those nasty folk like the Vikings, Danes etc. that pushed the Celts over to the Western highlands and Islands. In the central belt and West of Scotland, many folk are descened from Irish immigrants. The Orkneys and Shetlands are of course more Norwegian than Scottish and were given to to Scotland as the dowry for Queen Margeret (I think) hundreds of years ago.
Lecture over!
McC
Just because you think or indeed are Scottish, Irish Welsh etc. does NOT mean that you are a Celt. The Celts were a race of people that were, over the centuries, pushed further and further out of their lands by invading Romans, Vikings, Danes, Angles, Saxons and anyone else you can think of until they were based on the margins of the countries they lived in. I consider myself Scottish certainly, but not specifically a Celt.
The Celtic language is recognised as being split into two distinct groups - Brythonic and (excuse spelling) Gadeilic. The Brythonic Celitic language is the language of the the French Breton people and is almost identical to the Welsh language (my sister in law is Breton French BTW). The Gadeilic language is the Gaellic of Scotland and Ireland and is virtually identical apart from the pronounciation etc. The Manx language also falls into this category.
The Cornish language whiich has almost died out falls into the Breton/Welsh group.
So who are the rest of us? Most of the East coast of Scotland can trace its roots to those nasty folk like the Vikings, Danes etc. that pushed the Celts over to the Western highlands and Islands. In the central belt and West of Scotland, many folk are descened from Irish immigrants. The Orkneys and Shetlands are of course more Norwegian than Scottish and were given to to Scotland as the dowry for Queen Margeret (I think) hundreds of years ago.
Lecture over!
McC
Interesting - I am just back home having discussed this very same subject over a curry!
My own view is that while clearly we do not want to be offensive to anyone we should (note change from "must" to "should" ) not get stupid about this - to change the words from a nursery rhyme about a black sheep or not refer to a board that is black is indeed over the top.
My mother is chairman of a group and she refuses to be called "chair" or "chairperson" - she feels that she has achieved something and insits on being called Madam Chairman. This may sound daft I know, but she is maintainig what she sees as standards.
I do not want to start an arguement here but as Frecklebird says, as a teacher she was trained to think in a politically correct way and I wonder how much time is given to ensuring political correctness at the expense of extending teaching skills. This is only an example - the same can be said for people working in any discipline wether it be the dreaded HR or engineering so please do not accuse me of knocking teachers!
It is however interesting to note that political correctness will vary from country to country. What is seen to be wrong in the UK is seen to be normal in Holland and vice versa.
In short, yes - we have gone OTT with political correctness!
McC
My own view is that while clearly we do not want to be offensive to anyone we should (note change from "must" to "should"
) not get stupid about this - to change the words from a nursery rhyme about a black sheep or not refer to a board that is black is indeed over the top.My mother is chairman of a group and she refuses to be called "chair" or "chairperson" - she feels that she has achieved something and insits on being called Madam Chairman. This may sound daft I know, but she is maintainig what she sees as standards.
I do not want to start an arguement here but as Frecklebird says, as a teacher she was trained to think in a politically correct way and I wonder how much time is given to ensuring political correctness at the expense of extending teaching skills. This is only an example - the same can be said for people working in any discipline wether it be the dreaded HR or engineering so please do not accuse me of knocking teachers!
It is however interesting to note that political correctness will vary from country to country. What is seen to be wrong in the UK is seen to be normal in Holland and vice versa.
In short, yes - we have gone OTT with political correctness!
McC
Biggest disaster?
Attempted a recipie from a magazine for duck in a grapefruit sauce - I know, it sounds stupid now but it DID say that it was a piquant sauce and it was a good magazine. Recipie said I needed pink, Florida grapefruit plus the juise of 12 pink grapefruit so off to local Asda and surprise surpsise there were no Florida grapefruit.
So McC does the obvious (to me! ) and used normal grapefruit plus a litre of fresh grapefruit juice.
The end result of course was a sauce so bitter that it would strip the internal coating off an industrial chemical tank and we had four people waiting for an evening meal.
Situation resolved (partially) by adding copious ammounts of sweet liquours. :lol:
McC
Attempted a recipie from a magazine for duck in a grapefruit sauce - I know, it sounds stupid now but it DID say that it was a piquant sauce and it was a good magazine. Recipie said I needed pink, Florida grapefruit plus the juise of 12 pink grapefruit so off to local Asda and surprise surpsise there were no Florida grapefruit.
So McC does the obvious (to me!
) and used normal grapefruit plus a litre of fresh grapefruit juice.The end result of course was a sauce so bitter that it would strip the internal coating off an industrial chemical tank and we had four people waiting for an evening meal.
Situation resolved (partially) by adding copious ammounts of sweet liquours. :lol:
McC
