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Al1963
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 63
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Minxy I agree with youQuote by Theladyisaminx
Where seven to ten people were cramped into one room.
Quote by soul-girl
This is happening to British families, due to lack of council housig and housing being repossed you end up living in a bed & breakfast for months on end with your kids - something I will have to face in the near future.
This has always happened to the working classes, I don’t see it as it has been a problem since immigration.My points minxy are that:
People don't just come in country today and then automatically aquire housing and get paid benefits tomorrow.
The people that do come here her lived in cramped and overcrowed conditions.
These people work hard in low paid jobs (some refuse to go on benefits)
Quote by TheladyisaminxI remember those days minxy. I can recollect having a bathing in a zinc bath (in the 60s). Or having to go to the public baths. I can go on, but I won't go on.
I was raised in an upstairs converted Victorian house, we had one bedroom living room and a small kitchen. No bathroom (what luxury), and an outside toilet.
Quote by TheladyisaminxOur move was because of overcrowding, disabled children and overcrowding. this was demolished 10 years later and became a park. The place we moved to was infested with mice.
My parents raised 4 children there 3 girls and a boy sharing one bedroom, we did get moved when the eldest was 15 the youngest 4 not because of over crowding but because the house was condemned we move out and within a week it was demolished.
Quote by TheladyisaminxI'm grateful for the opportunity my parents fought for me.
Maybe it’s why I just appreciate what I have as I have more than what my parents had.
Quote by TheladyisaminxSo did I. I went to school in Hackney and grew up in Stoke Newington (in the days when they were ghettos). There I learnt about different cultures and religions. A recent Christmas it dawned on me when buying one of those last minute things. When shops selling these things where closed. This is one of the great assets of multi-cultrualism. This is one of the reasons why I love London.
I was raised in a very cosmopolitan area we had the first immigrations living amongst us, I went to a school in a highly black white mix in Peckham. I still live within the same area and raise my own children here, why because I have never had any problems with cultural mixing and neither have my children.
Quote by TheladyisaminxI couldn't agree with you more. :thumbup: We all learn form each other. What holds us back is: Fear, Predjudice and Insecurity.
After all we are all human and can live side by side and be accepting of each other and look out for each other, as once you get to know them, we all have a heart a soul feelings and compassion.
Quote by TheladyisaminxI presume you mean the racial tensions that occurred when you was a young girl (me a boy). I would loathe it if they take any foothold. Because, it would a road to disaster. You see minxy, they always use xenophobia as tool to excuse for their lack of ambition.
I would hate for the BNP to get a foot holding in this country for being around the first influx of immigrates (sic.) has taught me after growing up with them in the 70’s I would never like to go back to those days, I thought we have come so far, but seems we like to appoint blame when things are not so cushy for most.
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Quote by SlurpySarah
I agree with all you've said here,so
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The part I highlighted - my understanding is that the profits and properties these people have acquired using the benefits of living in a first world country would be confiscated before their repatriation. The generous settlement would be a percentage of that, and the rest would go back to the public purse so that we can have the health service we and our parents worked and paid for. Then we can pay for fat people to get thin and we won't keep seeing heart-rending charity adverts on TV for Great Ormond St, Childline etc.
Ridickulas Gri££in echolalia. You comments (naively said) highlighted in red is nonsensical. I took massive umbrage to you comment.How about the taxes from wage that some "these" people have into the system for 30 -50 years? Oh you're thinking (correct me if I'm wrong) is that saying they came to UK looking a meal ticket and the purpose is milk the system. Was you around in 50s and 60s? How many came over from the Indian sub-continent, West Indies and West Africa and invited on false prentenses. Told misleading things like how the quality of their lives would imporve. "Britain needs you fill the labour shortage" and "Britian welcomes you with open arms". The truth is they faced a hostile welcome, racial abuse and attacks, bad housing (landlords didn't want to rent out to the immgrants and they didn't meet the residency criteria to apply for council housing). Where seven to ten people were cramped into one room. These slums resulted some of children having poor health. On the work front most had to the jobs the white British didn't want to do, which they gladly took. Some of these hearty people worked so hard that they health conditions and disabilities. However, plenty have many have own their own homes and have flourising businesses. The point is that a significant number have been here so long that they have children and grandchildren born here. And made Britain their home and became Angliacised.
On to your second point. The issue of a "generous" repatriation package is patronising. Aren't "these people" (as you put it) capiable of funding their "return to their homelands"? Voluntary? yeah! what happens if they decline to take a goverment like that up on their offer? Apathied I bet! "would be confiscated before their repatriation". That's theft! and what's generous about "a percentage of that"?
"we can have the health service we and our parents worked and paid for" So did the people who came from the Commonwealth in the 50s and 60s. And many later who came in the 70s and 80s. Think how much taxes (not just Income Tax) has been collected from "these people".
Umm, compassion fatigue eh SlurpySarah? Your "hero" won't quell that. Great Ormaond Street is for children with rare life treating medical conditions. For which the specialist equipment(which is very costly) and the need the very best specialist consultants the can find. Would you object if it was a non-white foreign national if that would save the lives and improve the health of chronically sick children?
Childline? You mean 0800 1111? yeah! Apart from child psychologists and accidents. It's more a social services issue (local authourity) rather than a NHS one. Childline is an anonymous hotline for children who have been abused, bullied having problems at home or school.
Even thought I (clearly) disagree with it. You're entitled to your views. If you're argue them make sure you know what talking about. There is racist motive behind it. The word "voluntary" is mandatory in disguise. It's only "reworded" for legal reasons.
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Quote by Max777
AS has been previously stated the British/European birthrate is falling.......we have an ageing population people live longer fewer children are born....when I reach retirement age and as has been suggested elsewhere stop paying tax...I want there to be a tax payer to replace me ....I want to be able to visit a doctor without checking to see if I can afford it....I want my replacement hip if I need it...I want my state pension and heating allowance...I don't care if the tax is payed by someone of Pakistani ,Iranian,African,Polish or Venusian descent.....I care that the means to do all of this are still in place,the birthrate of the indigenous population of this country cannot and will not support it.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT WE NEED IMMIGRATION
It's pity that neo-Nazis like Ridickolas Gri££in and the Bigoted Nazi Facist realise that.
Bigoted Nazi Facist?
Bigoted Nazi Facist = (B)NF
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Gawd kenty, what planet was I on :doh:
I was talking in the context that people sneaking into the country without using the offical channels.
Also these are deemed as illegal immigrants;
Overstaying beyond the expiry of their visa without a renewal or extension.
People trafficking
Taking up employment or training on a vistors visa
Failing to return after a divorce (spousal visa)
Failing to return on completion of studies.
Exiting the terminal building on a transit visa
Breaching the terms of the visa.
I think they should be deported. In the case of 2. The perpertrators should be jailed and deported (if appropiate).
Kenty those forty thousand obviously since they are lost in the systyem, haven't been caught.
I was talking in the context that people sneaking into the country without using the offical channels.
Also these are deemed as illegal immigrants;
Overstaying beyond the expiry of their visa without a renewal or extension.
People trafficking
Taking up employment or training on a vistors visa
Failing to return after a divorce (spousal visa)
Failing to return on completion of studies.
Exiting the terminal building on a transit visa
Breaching the terms of the visa.
I think they should be deported. In the case of 2. The perpertrators should be jailed and deported (if appropiate).
Kenty those forty thousand obviously since they are lost in the systyem, haven't been caught.
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Quote by browning
Can you tell me Browning....if you do not mind, why you are a member and what makes you vote for them? Is there anything in particulars they say that appeals to you, or is it all their policies.
The reason I voted for the bnp is probably the same reason most people vote for them, I am bloody fed up with the main parties!!
I thought nick griffin was poor on question time, and I, along with alot of bnp supporters don't want him as leader. I would like to see the bnp move away from thier racist roots and concentrate on matters that matter to ALL british people.
In life, we pick a party that we think best suits us, it does not mean you will agree with EVERYTHING the party stands for.
From the bnp website;
Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally , I agree with that.
Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British,
I agree with that.
Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently
DO NOT agree with that.Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.
Agree with that.
- Introduce automatic prison sentences for all repeat offenders;
- Put police back on the streets and remove their current political correctness shackles;
- Allow victims of crime full freedom to defend themselves and their property
Agree with all of that.
All from the bnp website, there is also a load of stuff on there I DON'T agree with.
Thanks for courage and honesty Browning :thumbup:
The things where we in green so I wont comment on those. The one's in red I take issue which I'll dicuss you. The illegal immgrants came here for a better life (via work) abeit against the law. They do deport foreign national who break the law. This is done on the immediate release from prison. I've known at least three British nationals who have been deported from America (for drug related offences). They do same here!
As for asylum seekers some have come directly into this country. Or believe that this is the safest. This is the BNP judging a book by its cover. By means saying "bogus" asylum seekers.
Yes the bobbies are back on the beat. Sometimes accompanied by PCSO (plastic cops).
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Quote by Staggerlee_BB
AS has been previously stated the British/European birthrate is falling.......we have an ageing population people live longer fewer children are born....when I reach retirement age and as has been suggested elsewhere stop paying tax...I want there to be a tax payer to replace me ....I want to be able to visit a doctor without checking to see if I can afford it....I want my replacement hip if I need it...I want my state pension and heating allowance...I don't care if the tax is payed by someone of Pakistani ,Iranian,African,Polish or Venusian descent.....I care that the means to do all of this are still in place,the birthrate of the indigenous population of this country cannot and will not support it.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT WE NEED IMMIGRATION
It's pity that neo-Nazis like Ridickolas Gri££in and the Bigoted Nazi Facist realise that.
