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Theladyisaminx
Over 90 days ago
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Quote by Theladyisaminx
I`m guessing that nobody else is having problems as this thread has dropped on to page two.
Is it time for me to put in a support ticket ?
All is fine here!
must just be you! :giggle:
Might be worth reading this first
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/289215.html
Quote by Peanut
All too often we all know what was meant by a certain comment but the poster will use the fact that it can be taken both ways as an invitation to say it means the opposite to the way it is taken....
No you can't ever "know". Invariably your conclusion will depend on what side of an argument/debate you're coming from.
Just because you think you know what the person actually meant does not mean either that you're correct or that he/she's changed the meaning of what they initially said.
Sometimes it just suits one's purpose to try to read something into what was said when all the time there wasn't actually anything there other that what was actually said. It does no good to use your own values as an aid in understanding someone else's words.
But you said that we can know what is meant because we can just look up the words in a dictionary and hey presto!!
Prevents misunderstandings, with the flags and stuff.
Dictionaries only define words, they don't define sentences. Neither do they give meaning to the way words are combined.
I love it when you finally realise that everybody else was right all along !! :thumbup:
It takes a big person to admit they were wrong ..
Well done :cheers:
Yes it does, but alas it doesn't encompass me just yet. If memory serves me correctly my comments in the past have related to specific highlighted words rather than to sentences. In the past my meanings have been subjected to scrutiny and comment. The ambiguity has been related to specific words and their definition which is where the dictionary comes in. I still believe that if one sticks to the dictionary definition of words then it can help to clear up misunderstandings though I will certainly agree that this can't be the case 100% of the time.
I hope that clears that up for you as you seem to have a bee in your bonnet over this issue. No doubt though, you'll make another post on the matter at some point in the future. I shall await it with bated breathe and an opened copy of the OED.
Is that your interpretation of what the poster has written?
How do you know that is what is meant?
Are you not just making assumptions?
Exactly why I wrote this post, how can you, we, really be sure what is meant
Quote by flower411
.... in a long lost land, there was a Forum. It was a nice Forum, welcoming and homely and it was a great place to relax and chill in
and then came the liars, the hypocrites, the members with short memories of the level of support they'd received and then came the troll, clip clopping along the bridge, clip clop
Don't forget the whingers and the moaners....
And the Jocks... :twisted:
What about the peoples front of judea ?
Surely you mean The Judean peoples Front !!! :shock:
stop being pedantic
I have a strong suspicion that you are not a monty python fan minx !!!
Your suspicion is correct they were way before my time! :P
So ... you had to go to bed a nine o clock then
I was a figment of my mothers imagination.
A twinkle in the eye! :P
Quote by woohoo
As UI have already said on another thread.
Because of the new friends feature ppl can tell when their friends are on line so add an ops/mod/admin to your friends list and they will show up when they are on line with a pm button handy too.
Is there a list anywhere with all the names of the ops/mods and admin?
Quote by flower411
.... in a long lost land, there was a Forum. It was a nice Forum, welcoming and homely and it was a great place to relax and chill in
and then came the liars, the hypocrites, the members with short memories of the level of support they'd received and then came the troll, clip clopping along the bridge, clip clop
Don't forget the whingers and the moaners....
And the Jocks... :twisted:
What about the peoples front of judea ?
Surely you mean The Judean peoples Front !!! :shock:
stop being pedantic
I have a strong suspicion that you are not a monty python fan minx !!!
Your suspicion is correct they were way before my time! :P
Quote by flower411
.... in a long lost land, there was a Forum. It was a nice Forum, welcoming and homely and it was a great place to relax and chill in
and then came the liars, the hypocrites, the members with short memories of the level of support they'd received and then came the troll, clip clopping along the bridge, clip clop
Don't forget the whingers and the moaners....
And the Jocks... :twisted:
What about the peoples front of judea ?
Surely you mean The Judean peoples Front !!! :shock:
stop being pedantic
Quote by Theladyisaminx
Ah, the English language, so many word, each with it's own subtle shade of meaning. Such a shame we are all colour blind...and become so fixed on our own understanding of the word, we forget others have a different view.
I agree with you!
We all have meaning of what we write as we are thinking as we write the words. Some words are easy to understand as they are direct and to the point. But others can add a word or two so you are never quite sure entirely what is meant by them.
Fascinating stuff!
its good isn't it...
but then again i like to be blunt.....its just a shame that by doing either and speaking the truth (as one sees it), you often get the most outrageous reactions from some.....me included sometimes!Even the impact of something blunt like lead piping can be damaging.
exactly.........
i guess it depends on the thickness of ones skin, so to speak.
but sometimes you feel the urge to beat an idiot round the head with an idea until they see the sense in it!!
But some people heads are to thick to feel the impact!
whoops sorry that was a bit blunt!
Quote by DeeCee
Ah, the English language, so many word, each with it's own subtle shade of meaning. Such a shame we are all colour blind...and become so fixed on our own understanding of the word, we forget others have a different view.
I agree with you!
We all have meaning of what we write as we are thinking as we write the words. Some words are easy to understand as they are direct and to the point. But others can add a word or two so you are never quite sure entirely what is meant by them.
Fascinating stuff!
its good isn't it...
but then again i like to be blunt.....its just a shame that by doing either and speaking the truth (as one sees it), you often get the most outrageous reactions from some.....me included sometimes!Even the impact of something blunt like lead piping can be damaging.
exactly.........
i guess it depends on the thickness of ones skin, so to speak.
but sometimes you feel the urge to beat an idiot round the head with an idea until they see the sense in it!!
But some people heads are to thick to feel the impact!
Quote by DeeCee
Ah, the English language, so many word, each with it's own subtle shade of meaning. Such a shame we are all colour blind...and become so fixed on our own understanding of the word, we forget others have a different view.
I agree with you!
We all have meaning of what we write as we are thinking as we write the words. Some words are easy to understand as they are direct and to the point. But others can add a word or two so you are never quite sure entirely what is meant by them.
Fascinating stuff!
its good isn't it...
but then again i like to be blunt.....its just a shame that by doing either and speaking the truth (as one sees it), you often get the most outrageous reactions from some.....me included sometimes!
I can do blunt! :twisted:
what I find a shame is to see people having to defend themselves as then you have lost the conversation we should stick to the main points of debate and ignore the snipes as it is only someone’s misreading what is written.
We don't all see things with the same view. Wouldn’t life just be boring then
I have enjoyed many a debate with strong views from different people if I am unsure of a post I wouldn’t jump to conclusions I would ask for classification.
Isn't it the understanding of a post the thing that makes us wiser even though we might disagree
Quote by Dirtygirlie
.... in a long lost land, there was a Forum. It was a nice Forum, welcoming and homely and it was a great place to relax and chill in
and then came the liars, the hypocrites, the members with short memories of the level of support they'd received and then came the troll, clip clopping along the bridge, clip clop
Don't forget the whingers and the moaners....
And the Jocks... :twisted:
Yay!! Look everyone... the plan worked.. they're agreeing with each other now! Brilliant! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Our work here is done! :giggle:
It is funny every thread you go into the subject revolves around Peanut and 777. I think they are one of the same people
That will put a spanner in the works
I liked their days when they disagreed it made for an intresting debate.
At least with both you knew what side of the fence they were on, seems these days they are on the same side.
Life is funny and good luck you two. :thumbup:
Quote by Dirtygirlie
.... in a long lost land, there was a Forum. It was a nice Forum, welcoming and homely and it was a great place to relax and chill in
and then came the liars, the hypocrites, the members with short memories of the level of support they'd received and then came the troll, clip clopping along the bridge, clip clop
Don't forget the whingers and the moaners....
And the Jocks... :twisted:
Yay!! Look everyone... the plan worked.. they're agreeing with each other now! Brilliant! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Our work here is done! :giggle:
It is funny every thread you go into the subject revolves around Peanut and 777. I think they are one of the same people
That will put a spanner in the works
I liked their days when they disagreed it made for an intresting debate.
At least with both you knew what side of the fence they were on, seems these days they are on the same side.
Life is funny and good luck you two. :thumbup:
Quote by varca
I too love our colourful language. And you are correct, so much of the written word is open to an individuals understanding and perception of words
Usually if that person is familiar with anothers posting style then the use of particular words will nearly always be taken in context.
I dont totally agree with you here.
People can change moods which then could lead them to write something that is then taken out of context.
I see it happen frequently here.
I believe it has happened to yourself.
What was written was taken out of context!
Also I have seen it happen to overs too, as people generally pigeon hole people into a boxes, this I feel is unfair and unjustifed.
As people change moods change.
If unfamiliar, then the interpretation and context perceived could be way off the mark unless the post is littered with smileys etc and even then things can be totally misconstrued :lol2:
To question I believe is the only way to understand someones intent, even then it is hard as we all have a different style in writting.
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Ah, the English language, so many word, each with it's own subtle shade of meaning. Such a shame we are all colour blind...and become so fixed on our own understanding of the word, we forget others have a different view.
I agree with you!
We all have meaning of what we write as we are thinking as we write the words. Some words are easy to understand as they are direct and to the point. But others can add a word or two so you are never quite sure entirely what is meant by them.
Fascinating stuff!
Quote by GnV
I used to have a sticker on my filing cabinet which said..
Control the conversation - ask questions
I picked up on this point as indeed it is true.
But to control a conversation is not the same as being in control.
To me to have control there has to be some kind of logic.
To also have control you have to listen to others and respond with a logical questions.
Control to me is a strong word.
But to see it in the contents as you put I understand it. Some might feel that as having control or needing it.
So I can see where you are coming from.
Thank you hope you can.
who, what, why, when are the favoured words here I believe
Such easy words to use as take little thought.
I have just be observing the forums of late, rather then being a contributor as I thought I would step out for a while, as some might know I use to have a lot to say.
What I have been doing is observed the forums, it is fascinating to watch and just observe as you are not drawn in and lost just responded to a few threads, but get to see all the threads and take more of an overall view.
Peoples interpretation of words is fascinating to watch, I said in another thread words here are like art or music. Each person will a have a different view of what someone else has posted. Others will try and analyse there meaning and attack.
As like art and music you will never be able to analyse what the poster has posted or always understand their motive.
Only the poster knows how they feel at that time and what was intended with what they posted.
I think too many people here are trying to analysis others and that is where the art of debate falls on its feet, the only way to understand anyone and there motives is to question, to question then causes a good debate as the person then responses with an answer.
It is no good in my opinion to analyse and tell the person what they are thinking, as thinking changes from day to day as does mood etc.
But then I could be talking a load of bollox as I normally do!
Analytic thought provoking responses welcome!
What I have been doing is observed the forums, it is fascinating to watch and just observe as you are not drawn in and lost just responded to a few threads, but get to see all the threads and take more of an overall view.
Peoples interpretation of words is fascinating to watch, I said in another thread words here are like art or music. Each person will a have a different view of what someone else has posted. Others will try and analyse there meaning and attack.
As like art and music you will never be able to analyse what the poster has posted or always understand their motive.
Only the poster knows how they feel at that time and what was intended with what they posted.
I think too many people here are trying to analysis others and that is where the art of debate falls on its feet, the only way to understand anyone and there motives is to question, to question then causes a good debate as the person then responses with an answer.
It is no good in my opinion to analyse and tell the person what they are thinking, as thinking changes from day to day as does mood etc.
But then I could be talking a load of bollox as I normally do!
Analytic thought provoking responses welcome!
Quote by Dave__Notts
I'm getting "could not query config information" when refreshing the forum home page again.
So am I. I thought it was just my computer though.
Dave_Notts
Not unless we're using the same pc :lol2:
And I am still getting it......every time I click on a thread or a post I get the message then I have to refresh the page..
me too
im getting it too
im getting the same problem now altho last nite it was working ok !!
Is everyone using my PC now?
Dave_Notts
me too!
I have been getting it for a couple of days.
:shock: I thought it was something that the children had downloaded that had caused the problem on my pc.
It is worth looking in here for answers
Quote by kentswingers777
Kent about free speech and Gaunty per the op.
I think when Gaunty first went on talk sport his phone in programmes were interesting there were some great debating topics that all could join in and express their opinions, yes he used to question differing opinions but I felt it was then left up to the listener to make their own opinions.
But as time has gone he has seen himself as someone bigger than he is which he has now come to realise he isn’t.
I don’t believe he was sacked for his political views, he was sacked because of his belief that he is always right, in whatever he said.
The interview in question where then he got sacked there was a great debate to be had there.
The debate was should people that smoke be able to foster children?
What Gaunty showed was the inability to control himself in the debate he was totally out of order, I agreed with him about people should be able to foster who smoke each should be taken on their own merit.
But he lost control.
What I believe makes a good interviewer is someone that raises questions lets people listen and make up their own minds to the debate, Gaunty always put his stance on things, so to me he was a leader of a gang and a bully and he had what he thought was enough people in his gang to back him up and help fight his cause, but at the end of the day he lost most of the people, as people with an open mind could see him for what he was, someone that couldn’t control his temper and was unable to reason.
He should have let people have free speech on his show.
I didn’t believe all that he stood for but he did raise some interesting debates.
And will be sorely missed.
Maybe he will but he should never personally attack people that were only adding a counter debate to topics that were raised.
He discussed things nobody else would. Topics very similar to the things I like to talk about on here. Whats wrong with talking about these things?
Nothing is wrong with discussing topics, what was wrong was the way it ended up with a personal insult being hurled.
Nearly every time I do a strong politicaly motivated thread, so many times someone has said something negative about it.
Strong politically motivated threads are fine, but if you raise a thread surely it is to open a debate, to debate is to listen to each others counter debate, but never stoop to person insults if someone does not agree with you,
why open a debate if all you want to hear from are people that agree with you?
Is this really then a debate?
Or just trying to do what Gaunty tryed to do?
That was to lead like minded people.
Because if you didn’t agree with Gaunty he would just be rude, insult people, or just hang up.
That is hardly a healthy debate, to debate is the willingness to listen to all points of view is it not?
Isn’t this thread about freedom of speech?
I am like Gaunty in my views, and not talking about strong issues like immigration and the like, will NOT make them go away.
Gaunty thought he was always right, because he was.....my opinion. Sometimes he came across as rude and arrogant but, a bit like on here, people are very emotive on certain subjects.
You don’t have to be rude and or arrogant to get a point across.
You just have to have a logical answer why you think you are right,
777 Nobody is always right, and if you believe that. That is your opinion.
If you think he was always right then you must agree he was right to call that guy a Nazi.
But then maybe I have the art of debate all wrong, I am sure someone will let me know
Kent about free speech and Gaunty per the op.
I think when Gaunty first went on talk sport his phone in programmes were interesting there were some great debating topics that all could join in and express their opinions, yes he used to question differing opinions but I felt it was then left up to the listener to make their own opinions.
But as time has gone he has seen himself as someone bigger than he is which he has now come to realise he isn’t.
I don’t believe he was sacked for his political views, he was sacked because of his belief that he is always right, in whatever he said.
The interview in question where then he got sacked there was a great debate to be had there.
The debate was should people that smoke be able to foster children?
What Gaunty showed was the inability to control himself in the debate he was totally out of order, I agreed with him about people should be able to foster who smoke each should be taken on their own merit.
But he lost control.
What I believe makes a good interviewer is someone that raises questions lets people listen and make up their own minds to the debate, Gaunty always put his stance on things, so to me he was a leader of a gang and a bully and he had what he thought was enough people in his gang to back him up and help fight his cause, but at the end of the day he lost most of the people, as people with an open mind could see him for what he was, someone that couldn’t control his temper and was unable to reason.
He should have let people have free speech on his show.
I didn’t believe all that he stood for but he did raise some interesting debates.
I think when Gaunty first went on talk sport his phone in programmes were interesting there were some great debating topics that all could join in and express their opinions, yes he used to question differing opinions but I felt it was then left up to the listener to make their own opinions.
But as time has gone he has seen himself as someone bigger than he is which he has now come to realise he isn’t.
I don’t believe he was sacked for his political views, he was sacked because of his belief that he is always right, in whatever he said.
The interview in question where then he got sacked there was a great debate to be had there.
The debate was should people that smoke be able to foster children?
What Gaunty showed was the inability to control himself in the debate he was totally out of order, I agreed with him about people should be able to foster who smoke each should be taken on their own merit.
But he lost control.
What I believe makes a good interviewer is someone that raises questions lets people listen and make up their own minds to the debate, Gaunty always put his stance on things, so to me he was a leader of a gang and a bully and he had what he thought was enough people in his gang to back him up and help fight his cause, but at the end of the day he lost most of the people, as people with an open mind could see him for what he was, someone that couldn’t control his temper and was unable to reason.
He should have let people have free speech on his show.
I didn’t believe all that he stood for but he did raise some interesting debates.
