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Theladyisaminx
Over 90 days ago
Straight Female, 62
United Kingdom

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Quote by flower411
Anyway good to see you are still around, I thought you might have retired by now wink

Awww minx !!! How could I retire before we`ve had a shag ?? I`ve just been waiting for your return hump
I think you have missed me really lol
Or are you trolling me dunno
Quote by flower411

in that case why can't you unlock the council thread and edit the posts dunno
simples

The point I was making was about just that, gratuitous removal of posts as the norm would go down like a lead balloon.
hummm so you used my post as a kinda of point proving mission then?
Arrr I get it now, I think lol
Not just yours darling ....you just got caught in the crossfire :giggle:
Now bugger off for another couple of years and do some accounting lol
Flower you called me darling :smitten:
How could I possibly go now lol
I only want ya for gratuitous sex !! Don`t get too excited lol
Blimey and its taken you 3 years to mention it, are you always so slow?
Quote by flower411
Is that is the case and evidence is collected then maybe the person or persons should be banned from commenting on the forums, it should go to a commitee to decide on evidence produced, just an idea as the site is forever evolving and maybe they should look at this option.

To be fair minx .... I think the mod team is the commitee.
The fact that one may not agree with their decisions doesn`t mean they don`t discuss stuff before making them.
As I`ve mentioned elsewhere today, I`m liking the changes to the moderation that have come about lately, they just take a bit of getting used to rolleyes
I am only just back posting today, and already had one of my posts deleted.
I guess it might take me a bit of time to understand what and why things are happening too.
Anyway good to see you are still around, I thought you might have retired by now wink
It was deleted in an experiment by st3v3 to show how over moderation would look, and not how moderation is being run. You got caught in the middle of it lol
Welcome back
Dave_Notts
I thought it was funny ........:giggle:
I did too, but shhh I wanted an explaination and all I got was I was used as target practice and I didnt even hear aim shot fire so I could duck.
Great welcome back hey? lol
Quote by flower411

in that case why can't you unlock the council thread and edit the posts dunno
simples

The point I was making was about just that, gratuitous removal of posts as the norm would go down like a lead balloon.
hummm so you used my post as a kinda of point proving mission then?
Arrr I get it now, I think lol
Not just yours darling ....you just got caught in the crossfire :giggle:
Now bugger off for another couple of years and do some accounting lol
Flower you called me darling :smitten:
How could I possibly go now lol
Quote by st3v3

in that case why can't you unlock the council thread and edit the posts dunno
simples

The point I was making was about just that, gratuitous removal of posts as the norm would go down like a lead balloon.
hummm so you used my post as a kinda of point proving mission then?
Arrr I get it now, I think lol
Quote by flower411
Is that is the case and evidence is collected then maybe the person or persons should be banned from commenting on the forums, it should go to a commitee to decide on evidence produced, just an idea as the site is forever evolving and maybe they should look at this option.

To be fair minx .... I think the mod team is the commitee.
The fact that one may not agree with their decisions doesn`t mean they don`t discuss stuff before making them.
As I`ve mentioned elsewhere today, I`m liking the changes to the moderation that have come about lately, they just take a bit of getting used to rolleyes
I am only just back posting today, and already had one of my posts deleted.
I guess it might take me a bit of time to understand what and why things are happening too.
Anyway good to see you are still around, I thought you might have retired by now wink
Quote by GnV
wouldnt that be glasses more as stalking than bullying?

The site can monitor chatroom logs and posts in forms, if this is happening shouldnt it be monitored more carefully and stop the people that are doing this, as they have a duty of care surely that members here should feel safe within this enviroment in the way you are suggesting that to me seems more about stalking than bullying.

You been on the bottle again minxy? lol or just a Freudian slip?
I'd agree though. Stalking is much more an issue sometimes. However, some members seem much more able than others to handle bad behaviour in chat. It's when the line is crossed between abuse and banter that it can become a problem.
No it is my fingers working quicker than my brain, just crap spelling mistake flipa
wouldnt that be glasses more as stalking than bullying?
The site can monitor chatroom logs and posts in forms, if this is happening shouldnt it be monitored more carefully and stop the people that are doing this, as they have a duty of care surely that members here should feel safe within this enviroment in the way you are suggesting that to me seems more about stalking than bullying.
Quote by st3v3
Locking threads isn't an exact science and the mod team have to make judgements, sometimes there's a lot of discussion in the mods lounge with regard to what would be for the best before any action is taken, Anais did attempt to pull the thread back on topic unfortunately that wasn't a success, hence the subsequent locking, an alternative may be to over moderate by removing every off topic post, here's one I did earlier http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/323504.html
Myself I don't think we should be going down that route, even if we did all we would end up with are constant debates aboiut how unfair every post removal was.

Was it in the thread I refered to above TLM.
Yes it was in there, I thought I was going mad when I saw it wasn't there then realised by others comments that some posts had been removed, as I said I never insulted anyone it was just a joke comment so cant see why it would have vanished.
Until we are no longer allowed it hijack, in which case I would apologise is not I just want to know why it was removed.
Quote by st3v3
Most of the time posts are edited and a note left that that effect, usually in red.
I have in the past used :gagged: as well, but thats just me and is very rare.
Some posts may be removed, such as blatent spam, anything in really bad taste or on some occasions when requested, this could also apply to threads.

I had a post removed this morning and no note left :sad:
I don't even know what I did wrong I never insulted anyone maybe it was a bit of a hijack, but have they been banned too?
Only I havent posted on the forums for a while but they were always allowed a while back
Quote by flower411
with apologies to dean for chopping out some of his impassioned plea..
Others and certainly new members are scared to comment as they see the quite personal attacks that go on in here. Self regulation has failed....the people concerned have no one else but themselves to blame....close it !!!

I don't think I've ever seen a new member suffer a personal attack in the way that dean suggests is the norm and I have said elsewhere in these forums, they should not post in fear of reprisals.
If that were the case, perhaps being one of the gang of 7 he refers to, I would find such behaviour unacceptable and would certainly make my views known to the culprit either through pm or more publicly in the thread.
Everyone should expect to be challenged on their view or asked to elucidate or articulate their view more clearly and that is quite right and proper.
Sometimes, punctuating a thread with a bit of harmless humour (such as was the case this morning on another thread, parts of which were removed) lightens the load and can encourage further debate.
And sometimes people simply searching out threads and posting insults directed at the same people over and over again ....often with the ..
"Oh, haven`t you got a sense of humour ?" question as a ripost to any defense....
just gets boring .
And yes Minx, it IS bullying.....why should people have to put up with constant insults from the same people over and over ....why should they have to "walk away" or "ignore" ....
We might just as well have no moderation at all and let the serial insulters just carry on.

Is that is the case and evidence is collected then maybe the person or persons should be banned from commenting on the forums, it should go to a commitee to decide on evidence produced, just an idea as the site is forever evolving and maybe they should look at this option.
Quote by deancannock
I totally agree with censorship. I do not want to see racist remarks ... Homophobic remarks .... etc etc.... Almost every thread in here nowadays gets down to personal name calling and insults. I have got to the situation where I actually think we would be better to close down the Current Affairs forum altogether !! It is now the same 7/8 people that contribute everytime....we all know what they are basically gona say. Come on..we all know who is going to say flog them, and hang them high. We all know who will come up with a conspiricy theory and blame the banks.....Its just become predictable and boring. Others and certainly new members are scared to comment as they see the quite personal attacks that go on in here. Self regulation has failed....the people concerned have no one else but themselves to blame....close it !!!

Dean I agree with your comments about racist and homophobic remarks and I believe that should not be tolerated but also believe that is strictly covered in the AUP.
General name calling is between two people and what I have seen is six of one and half a dozen of the other, someone has to stand taller and just walk away and the problem with be solved, if the posts disappear or threads get locked it will not solve a problem, as for getting rid of the currant affairs forum, is unfair for members like myself that pay my money to use and other like me.

While should a few spoil things for the rest?
I believe we all have a fasination about how we came to be and where will we go, what created us the creator V The Big band theory, and Darwins theory of evolution.
I watched a programme recently about Stephen Hawking and the big bang, and in my mind it all made sense to me. But I realise people have their own beliefs and respect them for it, but after talking to practicing friend I do get an impression that a lot of people are questioning the creator but believe and practise about religon for other reason, more the community aspect as a meeting place seems to be the reasons rather that totally believing other aspects.
I just wondered with todays technology and the rapid speed that science is working, would one day (maybe not in our lifetime)thoughts change?
Could science have the answers?
Quote by Kaznkev
Are we right in saying there are Bullies here?
I have been the victim of bullies in my teens whereby I was actually punched, kicked by a group of girls at school, I could not get away. On here we are all adults or at least should be that can make a more informed choice, if we feel intimated by another we don’t need to start of retaliate to that person, we have choices close down or ignore. I have found to ignore works a treat, intimidation only works on responses.

But then I realise that I am not that scared child anymore I am an adult that can control a situation myself in the best way I feel it should be dealt with.
We need sometimes to look at ourselves and use some of the wisdom and common sense that comes from adulthood and stop relying on other to make decisions for us.
I do get frustrated and annoyed that the word bully can sometimes feel so undermined and so commonly used. Both here and in society in general.
BTW I believe in freedom of speech we might not always like what is said but we have a choose to ignore it.

Very well said minxy,it has taken me a long time to realise bullies only win when you give them the chance to show you are hurting. As a child i could not just ignore bullying as an an adult i am learning to walk away from the keyboard,simple advice,but it works!
Reguarding the cut thread,i dont see it as censorship,simply the mods trying to keep a topic on who posts here does so on the understanding that the mods say is final.
If people are concerned about censorship the captitulation of google to the chinese or this countries mad porn laws are surely far more worth getting concerned about.
Kaz I agree with you there are far more concerns about censorship in these areas, the removal of posts and closer of threads seems so petty in comparison for these reasons.
Are we right in saying there are Bullies here?
I have been the victim of bullies in my teens whereby I was actually punched, kicked by a group of girls at school, I could not get away. On here we are all adults or at least should be that can make a more informed choice, if we feel intimated by another we don’t need to start of retaliate to that person, we have choices close down or ignore. I have found to ignore works a treat, intimidation only works on responses.
But then I realise that I am not that scared child anymore I am an adult that can control a situation myself in the best way I feel it should be dealt with.
We need sometimes to look at ourselves and use some of the wisdom and common sense that comes from adulthood and stop relying on other to make decisions for us.
I do get frustrated and annoyed that the word bully can sometimes feel so undermined and so commonly used. Both here and in society in general.
BTW I believe in freedom of speech we might not always like what is said but we have a choose to ignore it.
Thanks for the help and advice, after much deliberation we opted to change to Quickbooks. I personally find it much more user friendly and quicker to set up and work with than Sage, myself coming from a non accounting background I have had no problems so far in understanding the system. Hubby however who has accounting background is still a little cynical as to the detail when needing reports for quarterly management accounting purposes. But we have only completed out first monthly VAT returns thus far, and have found no problems with quickness and easy.
Quote by GnV
I know the forums are always good for answering a question, and always seems to be someone around to help.
The question is, we are using a sage system for accounting purposes and are looking to change over to quick books to increase clients.
What we would like to know is there anyone around that has knowledge of both and what are the key differences?
I know it is a bit of a selective field, but I am sure someone might know something.
Thanks in advanace
Minx

Is this the reason for considering changing your software? What aspect of Sage is not delivering on what your needs are?
Yes that is the only reason as we have an old version of sage and to upgrade to increase clients sage price in over £1000, but it seems to get the same deal with the same functions on "quick books" the price is a quarter of the sage deal. So we were just wondering do you get the same benifits and fuctions.
I know the forums are always good for answering a question, and always seems to be someone around to help.
The question is, we are using a sage system for accounting purposes and are looking to change over to quick books to increase clients.
What we would like to know is there anyone around that has knowledge of both and what are the key differences?
I know it is a bit of a selective field, but I am sure someone might know something.
Thanks in advanace
Minx
Quote by Srne
Hi guys have returned to the Cafe once again as inevitable. This place even after long abscences always draws me back. Prob not light Sunday reading this but here goes.....
I'm a youngish attractive guy,I have a good job and all that mainstream apparently important stuff, not really looking for swinging action these days (though there is always scope for changes of mind if offers unrefusable in nature were to present themselves :-)). So.......why am I here?
I feel at home here for some reason, probably because due to reasons relating to my past and upbringing and the fact I don't like to share my feelings with people on a social level I can be myself here with the anonimity of people not knowing me on a personal level.
Which brings me onto my main topic point.
Do you think that there are some people who are just not capable for one reason or another to hold down a long lasting relationship?
No I think we are all capable
I ask this because having recently been left by my partner,(dont worry she knew I came on here and read and posted on the cafe, trust issues of that nature were never a factor for us), i have come to a realisation.
Trust, honesty, understanding are all key to any relationship
I've had two meaningful relationships in my life one for 4 years with a girl who is now my best and entirely platonic friend, and one with the afore mentioned now former partner for a year . The problem in both those relationships and the reason for them ending? Me. Same problem both times.
The relationship of four years she must see qualities in you then that she must like as she has remained a friend.
Due to not having a very stable upbringing I was always sure that they were going to leave and abandon me, they didnt really love me the way i wanted and needed and used to then try to test them by behaiving in a way which i thought would make them unhappy with me and therefore leave me thus proving what i already thought. Fucked up hey?
I have a friend that has been married for 23 years and still believes nobody could love him, I have been his friend since I was 11, as I said to him love is someone that cares and sticks around. His feelings come from his upbringing.
I think it is a case of a self fullfilling prophecy and even though during my relationship i used to try and make out it was their fault, the blame lie's completely with me.
What I want to know is even though i am to blame in my actions,and i believe strongly that i just can't help it and will inevitably do this again, should I just accept that I'm wrong for people?
The girl previously in my life was fantastic in so many ways, she had hers faults and problems yeah, but don't we all and I, instead of seeing her good points kept looking out for signs that what I believed was going to happen would. Eventually this drove her away after a long suffering 6 months, and i just don't think i could go through, nor put anyone else through the same shit hence my question and subsequent post.
We have no control over others reactions or actions, but we have control over our own, circumstances in life make us behave and think the way we do but we are in control of our own minds and are able to change them.
There are a few books that can help change your thinking from negative to positive but only you can do it.
Has anybody else been through the same thing either with or as a partner to somebody as your comments and repliers would be greatly appreciated or even if you haven't what do you think?
Over to the ever relieble Cafe members.....
Not that I have used all just what I have heard wink
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Give me 5 things that you would lick or suck rather than chew?
One of the most covered songs “Without you” most notably by Harry Nilsson and by Mariah Carey was written by Badfinger which was a 1960’s British group which received hardly any royalties from the song although sung by hundreds of artists
lol I can't believe I know nothing about football but used common sense and finished 11th :bounce: :bounce:
So much better than last year where I was 2nd from bottom, holding everyone else up.
Quote by kentswingers777
I voted Tory and to be honest I am not happy as I never voted for a coalition but....Camerons majority was not enough for him to last on his own for too long.
The country cannot afford to wait a further six months with uncertainty, that is not good for a economic recovery that we desperately need. So I am at least prepared to go along with the coalition and see where it leads.
Yes the Libs have had to give up on some of their manifesto promises. Trident for one and immigration being the other.
Both have been discussed on here and I am glad that Trident will be updated, and am also glad that illegal immigrants and a dependent, will NOT be given the right to stay here.
So with those two issues out of the way I can see the coalition working, and it is much better than a lib/Lab pact with Brown at the helm.
I will see where this leads us but a coalition can hopefully bring about some stability, and Cameron and Clegg can get together to sort out the mess this past Government have created.
Only time will tell if it can be successful.
How great though was Heseltine? A real Tory and a great Statesman.
Plus who was that total pratt from the New Statesman? Talked a load of rubbish most of the time.

I have always told you we libs could make you tories see reason, you just never listened as you were always right.
It feels so good being right :smug:
I guess the time of callig me a liberal lefty, sandal wearing, yogurt making, Knitter has passed, as now I know you just want to snuggle up in bed together really. rotflmao