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Theladyisaminx
Over 90 days ago
Straight Female, 62
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Quote by kentswingers777
As for asking for clarification when SH want to change something well.....would someone like a member of staff, if you owned your own business, to ask for clarification on something you wanted to change?
I am sure most employers would tell them, this is my business and I do not have to clarify anything....I own it.
If someone nitpicks about something they do not like about a site, they can always leave and find alternative web sites....Just a thought. cool

777 sorry what you have wrote here, I believe wrong.
But then again I could be wrong in the way I see things maybe admin might put me right here.
I agree this site is a business, but in operating this business you rely on members, members that pay to use the site that they are offering.
In paying for the site I do notsee myself as an employee here, I see myself as a customer, I think as a customer we should be able to ask a question to clarification a change, as then we can make an informed decision if we want to continue to pay to use the service they are offering.
So I think by relating us to employees you have somehow got your wires crossed.
I never saw myself as a thread maker but A while ago I was very active in thread making within this forums. Now days I tend to do more posting than thread making,
The reason for my wanting to write threads was to see if I had an ability to be understood in the written form, to air my views and to see what the responses would be. This gave me the indication to know if people understood me within the written form as I had never communicated in that form before.
I spoke in the chat rooms but that was so very different from this forums, here you could ask more questions not always related to sex, but could ask those too, like the one that I asked about how to squirt and people here explained in such a way that they helped me get past the point where I was getting stuck.
I went through a hard time last year when my mum was diagnosed very suddenly with cancer, I raised difficult questions of which I am grateful for people that responded to help me understand the way I was feeling was normal. Other made me laugh when I felt like crying, they kept me thinking positive thoughts.
I like to raise the odd topic sometimes political debate as you get a feel of people and they can make you sway your way of thinking. I like to think, I like to question, I learn, listen and question more to people that disagree with my own opinions and that’s when we learn more,
Just lately I have become more of a poster, I am now just wandering about having fun but pop up from time to time with the odd thread.
I had to overcome my own insecurities to write a thread, my first I was so scared wondering what type of response I would get, how I would be perceived by others, would I be hounding out for saying the wrong thing it can make you become paranoid at times but I soon overcome this weird feeling it produced in me.
It was scary being new here and standing there taking things people were saying to me in the beginning, as some are very cutting with their remarks, some just try and rile things up, some you have disagreements with. But I am glad I stuck it out though thick and thin as sometimes I wanted to walk away and cancel my account, as sometimes it is hard to put your head above the parapet to be shot down, as some like to do. But generally you will find they do little in thread making but more in just posting.
I would like to see more people post threads, I am sure more would like to, so take the plunge stick with you convictions but don’t get personal with your responses and you will see like me you will survive here, without knowing or meeting anyone here I am still here writing, It doesn’t bother me if people don’t like what I have to say, I still have a right to say it as you do too.
Quote by kentswingers777
As for asking for clarification when SH want to change something well.....would someone like a member of staff, if you owned your own business, to ask for clarification on something you wanted to change?
I am sure most employers would tell them, this is my business and I do not have to clarify anything....I own it.
If someone nitpicks about something they do not like about a site, they can always leave and find alternative web sites....Just a thought. cool

Sorry I have to just point out here, we are not employees of the site and don't get paid for being here.
We pay for the service that SH provides and I do believe we are able to ask a question if we feel we would like to.
If all paid memebers left the site, where would you all be then?
So I believe we do have a right, without the only option being if you don't like it leave, you need to think about who people here keep on saying that too.
I am sure Admin would not like new members or paid members all getting up and going and you would not either as where then would you hang out most evenings. wink
Quote by kentswingers777
Can you not expand the logic?
I, and other forumites fought a 4/5 day long running battle on a thread in 'nillaville recently with a bunch of people- one in particular likened swinging to Paedophillia- who considered "us" to be lesser people, lesser parents, and lesser partners.
I think to say swinging is likened to paedophillia is a strange one indeed, and one I think is a comment of a mad person.
Mad people in your eyes, but they are living the so called normal life.
You need to ask yourself why you would not tell family and friends why you swing or let Mrs play with other men.
Or are the people you know mad too?
Or do you think they would judge you as you are judging others as you believe what you are doing isn't normal?
This is simply another side to the same coin.
Yes it is but on a slightly stranger scale
It is only a stranger scale because what you believe you are doing is ok
Consider this, your kids are still at school- and your nocturnal activities get found out by the local busybody. It gets out. It spreads around the school like wildfire. Your kids are ostracised. Suddenly, the sleepover is off. They're bullied. The party invitation is withdrawn...their lives are hell.
Whats to blame? Your sexual choices, surely? Or the small mindedness of the people and their reactions?
A bit of everything I think. I do not bother too much about peoples small mindedness or their reactions. Our sexual choices are ours to make, but obviously do not expect others to think it is ok. I do not think that being a swinger will result in sleepover being cancelled, or my kids being sent to Coventry...I may be wrong though but think most people would just wish they were swingers. lol
You do bother about small mindedness or you would tell people what you do, instead of hiding it.
I had a thread going once about telling our children that we swing. I said I would when they get to an age of understanding and can explain the reasons and why we thought it would be good for us. I seem to remeber you totally disagreeing with me at that time. As what impact that would have on them.
I know my children would not judge us as my mum and a couple of friends I have told haven't.
How do I know that I guess you would ask, because I have raised my children to accept people in life, not to judge others but ask themselves why someone would react the way they have, by finding out about people and not to think all peopla are like ourselves.
With gay people- they haven't even chosen to be gay. They just are. Are they lesser people for it? Less able to parent?
I never said they were less able to parent, nor are they lesser people because of it.
Mother nature intended than the product of M + F = B. Mother nature also made gays. I'd prefer, as it happens, that Fred & Bob took on a child from within the care system- but I'd also prefer Arthur & Sally to do that too.
That's a fair comment
You can't say in one breath that you're not homophobic- but deny two gay people the right to procreate with "help" that you'd give to straight people.
Yes I can. It does not make me or anybody else homophobic just because we do not agree with a child being brought up in a gay relationship. I simply asked will the child suffer because of it? I stand by what I said and I think they will. That may make me homophobioc is some peoples eyes, but I think that if you do not agree that is what people will label me, and so be it.
We can all have our own preferances what we ourselves like and how we conduct our own lives, but we can not expect everyone to be like us.
The child will grow up thinking their live is normal until someone points out it isn't. The person that points that out will be the person that expects everyone to be like them, they will be the person that has been bought up to think they are right as seeing it as wrong. I am thankful that it would not be one of my child that points that out, as they know not everyone is like them and dont expect them to be.
I have gay friends who'd make fab dads. I have straight friends who would make lousy parents. I have straight friends who'd make fab parents. If they fell into the "fab" category, I'd donate eggs etc to them regardless of gender. My decision would be based on their ability to parent.
I never said about parenting skills, purely that the child will suffer from bullying and horrid comments because of it. How do I know who would make good parents....look at baby P's Mother.
Would you advocate people not breeding because they were likely to have kids with ginger hair? Be too tall? Too short?
That is a silly comment as well you know and one which I will not bother to comment on.
I would have thought you would have said you would expect parents to parent and take responsibily for their own child. After all a parent is the person that is there for their children, through their lives, that loves them, cares for them, is intrested in making sure they conduct themselves well in society. As you know there does not have to be a blood tie to be a real Mum or Dad you just have to want to be a parent for the sake of the child, with the childs best intrests at heart.
All of these things are as likely to result in bullying as having gay parents. Extend the logic.
Yes they are and on that comment, you obviously class being brought up by gay parents as a possible means for that child to be bullied?
Phew......there were a few there Witchy. wink
Anything else let me know. cool

I just thought I would join this debate, sorry for sticking my nose in witcy and 777.
Witchy in Black
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Me Minx in red wink
Quote by foxylady2209
Autism, Asbergers, ADD, ADHD, Learning Disorders, Conduct Disorder, Eating Disorders, Schizophrenia. These problems are all very real - they must be, because so many counsellors make so much money for diagnosing and treating them. Parents also find it much easier to accept the child's otherwise unexplainable mental deficiency when the problem is given a medical name.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be really really happy. Unfortunately it isn't anything to be proud of - and it it was just said for effect - that is worse.
Did it make you happy to dismiss so many people's suffering in that off-hand manner? I sincerely hope not.
I haven't experienced family members with these conditions and I'm angry with you - I can't imagine how anyone who has feels after reading that.
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Foxy I totally agree with you, I am lucky my children do not suffer with any of these but a have a friend whos children have autism, and the sad thing is, I have also heard others say what Sarah has said, that is what's wrong in this country, we say we are educated but sadly there are a lot that are still ignorant.
Not meaning to but last week, my hubby was looking for a piece of paper I said I havent seen it but I could have shredded it by mistake.
Well I can't check as I can't stick all the pieces together again to see if I am being honest or not. lol
When was you last time you done something you feel guilty about?
I was talking to my friend whos children have autism about autism we think some people get mixed up with ADD or ADHD and think they are all the same thing.
We were saying we believe a lot of people have autistic traits, but just do not realise they have, so put them down as their own querky ways.
The Austisic spetrum is vast and I think most of us could appear there somewhere.
Hi Katie,
I would like to say I think this thread is a very good topic and well written to try and explain what is a very complicated subject due the different elements as you put and so many variations.
I am not ignorant in the matter of knowing some of the information you have written but having no personal experience of any of the above, does leave a lot open for personal interpretation.
How you have explained things and peoples comments after has been more of an insight for me, and I would like to say thanks for writing such a great topic for others like me that have no experience in this subject.
Well done :thumbup:
Minx
Quote by Funlovers2009
People are very judgemental.....
Our youngest child has severe autism athough he looks completely 'normal' his behaviour is really not!!
Every time we are out whether it be in Tesco, indoor play centres or just out walking you would not believe the looks/comments.
People judging us as bad parents for not being able to control our child!!
I used to get very upset to the point where I did not want to take him out but you cant live a life like that and it is not fair on him as he is a child after all and needs to have fun just as any other child does. Now I just put 2 fingers up to the world. I know I am a good parent and know that my son cannot help or control his behaviours.
I love him to bits but sometimes he is sooooo difficult that I wish for the sakes of my other children that I could turn the clock back and decide that 2 was enough!!!
Judge all you want ..... I dont care!!

I have a friend who has two boys with autism I can relate with your frustrations with others, as when the eldest had his moments he would be awful towards her, and people would say, “you need to control your child”, she said it would be easier to have stuck a sign on him saying “I have autism please don't judge me as being naughty or my mum for being a bad 
It has become so much easier the older he has got, but I know there were times she felt the same way you did, I believe it is normal to feel that way at times. As I know if I had to cope there would be times I too would have felt it was too difficult, I applaud and respect any parent that goes through these times of difficulty.
I always say walk a week in someone elses shoes before you decide on judgement.
Quote by noladreams
should be a good year.... at the moment still tinkering round with lokomotive low fell... and i am surprised at what i have managed to fit in so far... lol
its almost all made up of top 4.. lol

*stamps feet*
I don't understand how you do it.
I don't either! mad
Minx is off to have a fiddle with her squad :rascal:
I wonder sometimes when people say they are open minded, as to me in every walk of life every place I go I see people are very judgemental of something.
The reason I said this too just look at the way people would look and stare at someone with a disability as an example.
Years ago I was told I was going to lose my baby at 36 weeks of pregnancy at that point she was still alive and the hospital worked hard to find ways of saving her sadly to no avail.
I was told if she was saved she would have been disabled and possibly have downs syndrome, I was happy to face whatever was wrong with her as she would have had love and caring but what I was most fearful of was the way she would be accepted into society. How others would pity her and mock her as she wouldn’t have been so called normal, but however still a human being. This showed me that I still felt I lived in a judgemental society, no matter how accepting people think they are there is still that element strongly among us.
95% of people I have found have a good side to them even though on first impression it isn’t always evident it is there if you take time to look, what I feel is people would always see the maybe not so good side of people’s character and then they will forever judge them.
We can assign those points to any form of judgement in many forms. Until we question ourselves on how we form our own opinions of others and on what basis those opinions are formed, and stop our own expectations on others being just that our own expectations and realise we are all different and start accepting that. I sadly feel this society will always be narrow minded and closed.
Things I feel are changing as we are becoming more educated and have the ability to question not just others but ourselves too. Because until we question ourselves we will never see how our own mind works. People say they want change the way forward I believe is look within ourselves, but be careful you might not like what you see. But bare in mind the mind can always been changed as you have control of that but not control of others to live up to your expectation.
Quote by foxylady2209
Does anyone have any idea why some characters are coming out like this? It's happening all over t'interweb.

Not the image of Stephen Fry - the little boxes with numbers and letters in. Looks like a code - not ASCII though. But obviously they should actually be showing some kind of symbol there.

I dont know if this is your problem but worth having a look at this link, I have opened up a new thread just to help others out too that might be having problems
I have seen a few with possible fire fox problems here posting threads, might be worth taking a look at the following link.

Hope that helps some posted August 4th 2009
Tuesday or wednesday evening I can't remember which one. lol
when was the last time you had passionate sex?
Quote by kentswingers777
If my brother found that he couldn't have children and I was in a position to help then I'd help him regardless of his sexuality and who his partner was.

Whilst I agree that the artical focused mainly on their sexuality, will the child not grow up in an enviroment that is not the norm?
If that was to be the case, will the child be ridiculed because of it, and will that child be unhappy because of that?
How far are people allowed to take the IVF or the surrogate issues?
I think these issues should be looked at very carefully, and think of the childs best interests, and not the adults making the decisions.
I dont see what the problem is with 2 "gay men" having a child together. It shouldnt matter if it was a single gay female, single gay male, gay couple or straight couple having the baby through IVF or surrogate person.
A few years back I remember seeing a program about a single straight male who had gone down the path of having 2 children by surrogate mothers as he said he'd never found the right woman to have a child with. Would you say that is wrong?
These days I dont think there is a normal environment to bring a child up in, but most importantly the fact that the child is obviously very wanted, cared for and loved far outways the issues of the parents sexuality.
Maybe that is where society has gone wrong then?
When a child does not know what the " norm " is, what have they got to judge anything by?

Normal to a lot of people would be for a couple to have a child together, and raise it together. A married couple where a child is created by love for each other, and not to be given away like an old times have changed, but not always for the better.
I could never understand how a Mother can conceive a child and carry it for nine months, and then give it away. No matter who they are giving it too.
This bit high lighted is where I would like society to be so I don't see it as society gone wrong but a society that is more accepting.
Just because the child is bringing bought up by two gay loving parents cant be wrong can it?
Children get judged to much already by people in society for far to many reasons, it is up to the person that is judging to find out why they themselves see it as wrong from the normal.
Surely we can be more broadminded as a society and question who said what is normal in the first place, only then would we be able to question our own judgements on people and question if they are right or wrong, only then would we have an open minded society and one I would feel very much part of.
went? errmm a few years ago now.
But does dancing each time music comes on count? redface
When was the last time you apologised for something?