I found this one too lol
1990 On this day at and 56 seconds, 17th of the 8th, 90 the time and date sequence ran from 1-0, an occurence which takes place only once a century.
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Theladyisaminx
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Quote by benrums0n
I TRY to encourage my two teens to be independent by allowing them to make their own decisions, make their own mistakes and make their own successes without interference from me. Its quite difficult to back off and let them learn but I do my best.
I agree to an extent too we learn the most for our own mistakes, by being independant and wanting that indepentacy by asking why cant I get a job with some form of stuctured learning and the ability to improve and gain knowledge and the ability to be promoted within a stuctured enviroment rather that a paper round at the age of 15. should people of this age have more choice in what they would like to do?
I feel to deny them that chance of as least testing them is saying you are not good or old enough to have that responsiblity. yet society then moan kids show no signs of responsiblity for themselves.
This isnt aimed at you ben but I just wanted to agree with your points and add a few of my own too.
Quote by Mr-Powers
It may well not be 1973 and yes things do change....but for the better? I think not in a lot of cases.
What has the year got to do with anything? It is about kids being able to have some independance. A job teaches them about time keeping and there is nothing better than buying something you have worked hard for. Oh yes things have changed on that score, with freeloaders abound.
Yes " working class kids " are now going to University but.....no jobs to come out too. So kids of today would have no job so will rely on their parents, then they go to University for a four of five year jolly up, and then leave and cannot get a job. Ah yes can see how things have changed since 1973. :shock:
In my opinion life for kids is much better. The reason I believe more kids are going to Uni is that there are more kids getting better grades, because the system has made it easier, much easier. Things are much easier now all round with parents having their credit cards to finance them and their kids lifestyle. In 1973 that was not the case. Maybe that is why money was so much tighter then and parents did not have the money to spend 100 quid on a pair of trainers, unlike todays credit card parents.
1973 is relevant to me as it taught me many things about life, that to work taught me some very subtle things....money has to be earned.
your generalisation of parents today is so way off the mark...so your the only perfect parent out there you?
and as for the grades...only your narrow mindedness would assume it because the system has got easier rather than the kids have got brighter...most kids today are far brighter than say 20 years ago
I do have to agree kids are brighter in schooling terms, but teaching is so diverse, brightness does not mean they have a lot of skills, it just means they have more knowledge.
Another skill to develope is life skills Schooling isn't the best place to learn these.
It is about balance and not just think one way is the best way, to gather knowledge and understanding in many forms must be better that just directing it in one direction.
It is ok to keep gaining knowledge it is then what you do with that knowledge gained how you apply it which is the key factor.
As someone said is teaching independence the job of parents, of course it is, but also I believe in being involved in local community can help too.
I don’t think to have a society we should just make the children feel it is solely the responsibility of the parent, to do this to youth, I believe is wrong. I think we all have a role to play no matter who’s child/.
As it all goes towards building their self esteem and belief in themselves that they are accepted as part of society.
I think children feel accepted in life more when it goes beyond just the responsibility of the parent, and society see them as a worthy part of the bigger picture, and also helps to instil in them what has been taught at home.
There are many areas that help, I was aiming my thoughts on this area, employment.
I honestly do not know anyone U16 in London that works unless it is a paper round.
As 777 most supermarkets have age restrictions of 16+ 3 months, that used to be on your 15th birthday.
It is funny at 16 you can become a mother/ father legally but can’t work in most supermarkets,
No wonder youth of today are so confused at times.
I have always thought is would be safer to be in a supermarket dealing with people, managers, as someone mentioned trust in cash handling than to be wondering around the streets alone early in the morning.
I can not see what a paper round compared to a supermarket employment can teach you.
I don’t think to have a society we should just make the children feel it is solely the responsibility of the parent, to do this to youth, I believe is wrong. I think we all have a role to play no matter who’s child/.
As it all goes towards building their self esteem and belief in themselves that they are accepted as part of society.
I think children feel accepted in life more when it goes beyond just the responsibility of the parent, and society see them as a worthy part of the bigger picture, and also helps to instil in them what has been taught at home.
There are many areas that help, I was aiming my thoughts on this area, employment.
I honestly do not know anyone U16 in London that works unless it is a paper round.
As 777 most supermarkets have age restrictions of 16+ 3 months, that used to be on your 15th birthday.
It is funny at 16 you can become a mother/ father legally but can’t work in most supermarkets,
No wonder youth of today are so confused at times.
I have always thought is would be safer to be in a supermarket dealing with people, managers, as someone mentioned trust in cash handling than to be wondering around the streets alone early in the morning.
I can not see what a paper round compared to a supermarket employment can teach you.
When I look back to my teenage days I believe the one thing that lead me to feel independant was having the ability to work at 13 I worked saturdays and sunday morning but I never thought and looking back still dont think I was exploited as it taught me so much.
At 15 I was allowed to work legally by obtaining a work permit to get a proper saturday job as it was known in those days
I really don't understand why the goverment done away with that scheme, I personally feel it made me understand the value of money and be responsible in the work place so aided my independance.
what are others views?
Are we dening our children an aspect of life that could hold them in good stead for adult hood?
Do you see it as exploiting children.
At 15 I was allowed to work legally by obtaining a work permit to get a proper saturday job as it was known in those days
I really don't understand why the goverment done away with that scheme, I personally feel it made me understand the value of money and be responsible in the work place so aided my independance.
what are others views?
Are we dening our children an aspect of life that could hold them in good stead for adult hood?
Do you see it as exploiting children.
Quote by Witchy
Hi there
I have just found this link in the cafe forum
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/279560.html
It might be worth asking there, as there are a lot of techy geeks that read that thread.
Sorry I couldnt help more, I am afraid I ask all my techy questions there.
You've been had
Have I? :shock:
I didn't even feel a thing :P
I did say I have no techy brains
