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Trevaunance
Over 90 days ago
Bi-curious Male, 51
Straight Female, 52
0 miles · Exeter

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If I were to pop off this mortal coil today I can honestly say I've done all I ever wished for.
However if I have the choice there is one little thing I'd love to do; Play football in the park with my great, great grandchildren.
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Photos now uploaded and awaiting approval.

And twelve hours later he has disapeared from the site blink
I Judge. So must you, if you agree or not, with the last statement or the next.
So what?
Or you could join the air force, fly off to distant countries, look down on smiling waving people and then drop bombs on them.
Then again there is always the Navy
you get to sail to foreign lands, meet lots of lovely ladies and then visit the doctor to explain your willy rot.
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We joined this site for meets quite a long time ago. The meets dried up for reasons unknown and we sought and found that kind of action elsewhere. I, (the male) simply frequented here for the forums and enjoyed that banter for about three years up until about a month ago. I have now all but abandoned this activity here too as a consequence of quite recent activity that I viewed as post stalking.
I think that the Swinging Heaven brand has a potential currently 1% fulfilled and the Site has decayed gradually and measurably with each passing year.

Your thoughts echo mine.
Our meets from this site dried up too, and nights in the chatroom aren't as exciting as they once were because most of the chat is hidden in whispers.
The forums however were a place of fun, right up to the point where I went away as part of our overseas trip earlier this year. Since returning the forum hasn't had the same attraction.
Welcome to our little corner of the Internet.
I've gotta say that your profile appears to cover all the bases in my humble opinion. I can't say I have ever read such a comprehensive profile from a first timer smile
The only thing to do now is put up some face pics and get yourself known in the forum and chat room.
Good luck, hope you find what you are looking for.
Title: Peterborough area When: 14th Nov 2004 - 5:49pm
Hi i am a 30 yr old male living near peterborough and i'm new to the dogging scene as well. I would love to watch people enjoying themselves, I'm more in to watching than participating, however im not adverse to the prospect... just nervous redface and would love to meet someone either single or a couple sometime soon.
Right now? Oh that's easy.
My bed at home, because it's warm, it's comfortable and Mrs T is there redface
Many years ago when I first started studying history it was all about dates. When did this happen, when did that happen, etc.
Since then I have learnt that when is irrelevant without why did it happen? Who did it happen to? What happened after? and What was the context at the time?
We cannot sit here in 2013 and cast judgement on the past by our modern standards. Yes we should learn from the mistakes of history, but we cannot condemn the morals of people, communities, countries or civilization itself just because it doesn't meet the standards of today.
And people wonder why there is bickering in the forums? Maybe it's because people can't take a little light humour when it's placed in front of them.
Seeing as you are taking unintended offence Jed I will now go into intricate detail just for you and I apologise in advance if I put any words in the mouths of other people.
1st Post OP: Asks for advice
2nd Post you: Provides advice - recommends 'married and cheating'.
3rd Post Dean: Suggests they grab time whilst husbands are at work (Alluding to cheating, IMHO)
4th Post Toots: Talks about deans post and how she would feel (definitely mentions cheating, but not by the OP, just in general.
5th Post Lost: Agree's more or less with all of Toots' post.
6th post Me: Agree's with Toots and Lost.
7th Post Sexy: Agrees with your post (No 2).
Now at this point every post except the OP and, starting with yours, has mentioned cheating or talked about cheating. I believe that everyone that commented thought that the OP was cheating, I know I did.
8th Post Rob: States that there is no evidence of cheating.
This caused me to read the whole thread again, rather than just take one single post as my object of reply. Suprise, suprise, there is nothing in the OP's post to say whether there has been any cheating going on.
9th post Me: I agree with rob and then post the following:
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That's a very good point Rob, and it certainly seems there is an assumption amongst the morally incorruptible forumites of cheating.

Let's face it, what we all do in the swinging world is morally wrong to a large percentage of the British populace, but to us it's completely normal. In the same way that our life choices may differ from someone else, a cheating person has made their choice and who are we to cast judgement on them? To the majority of the population our swinging morals are corrupted far from the norm.
Now I'm deeply sorry that you feel that a little light humour is inappropriate, but I fail to see why at this point you feel it was a personal swipe at you.
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For my part it's because the OP mentions wanting somewhere to go. If their partner was aware then why would she have to go anywhere? Why not just stay at home? Those questions are of course rhetorical and indeed private to the OP, but I thought I would demonstrate a train of thought as to why there could be an assumption of cheating.
I explained my train of thought here.
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This website Shows a hotel that is available at reduced rates nearby, although it isn't on the Isle of Wight so is probably not really an option. My suggestion would be to ring/email round local hotels and see if they are willing to do the same thing. I know that places like premier inn's, Travelodge etc are willing to rent rooms during the day, but they tend not to advertise it.
I provided advice in line with the OP's question here.
10th Post you:
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to be honest guys there is not enough info there to suggest that the lady is actually cheating or doing this without her husbands knowledge dunno

Very helpful advice for the OP I am sure their problem is now solved thanks to your assistance, Was that you using light humour? After all Rob never actually provided any assistance to the OP and yet you assume he has 'solved' their problem.
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my reply did try to help and was not assumptive as those who responded to you suggest.
As I am the only one to have replied to Rob, you must be referring to me. However the post to which you refer has been explained above and was not aimed at you directly, but as as a community.
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Advising people to go to a site where many have a need for what the OP is looking for is sound advice not assumption.
Very true, but as i have said before I believe the majority of us believe she is.
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Where did I say I believed they were married and cheating, I simply pointed out the numerous sites available to people who are, and therefore by the very nature of what the people on those sites do there is more chance of them being able to advise the OP.{/quote]
Erm... Here?
Google "married and cheating" they have sites for people in your position just like this site for swingers except that all the members are "like minded people" and no doubt have more ideas and suggestions than perhaps swingers might have.

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Personally I (who is being accused of being a MORALLY INCORRUPTIBLE FORULITE) did try to advise the OP of two options they could have.

As for you being accused as a 'MORALLY INCORRUPTIBLE FORULITE', I'm sorry, but you are way off the mark because I can't see that anywhere, Have a good look now, because you and I both know I haven't. Go on then I challenge you. Where specifically did I call you a MORALLY INCORRUPTIBLE FORULITE?
For the sake of completeness:
11th post Lost: Says why he thinks the OP is cheating.
12th Post Skinny: let's us know what gets his rocks off smile Incidentally this is a joke for those that can't spot humour, Yes Jed I do mean you.
13th Post Rob: Jokes with Skinny.
14th post Rob: Talks about a similar situation from a real life experience.
16th Post Rob: Tries to explain to you what is going on as 'really mids you do read a lot more into things than are ever there i suggested we did not know all the facts
trev stated as a community we sometimes are a little to quick assume things' and points out: 'but no one no where has pointed a finger at you jed!!!! all your guilty of is being a oversensitive to whats written in the forum or laymans term being a bit of a tit'
17th Post Me: I agree with Rob and point out that it was my mistake to assume there was anyone cheating
18th Post Rob: Jokes
19th Post you:
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You see now, I could accept what you say, I could accept people pointing out facts, such as there being no admission or proof of someone cheating in the OPs post, but when it is coupled with a minor but relevant snipe at people in the forums I make no apology for finding it to be part of the normal "attacks on posters" however minor it was.
And I refer to the bit .....
That's a very good point Rob, and it certainly seems there is an assumption amongst the morally incorruptible forumites of cheating.

Well there you go assuming again and getting it wrong. Where have I attacked any specific poster by using the term morally incorruptible forumites? Show me where? Actually please don't waste my time, please do you SH civic duty and report me immediately with evidence of who I have specifically spoken about or alluded to.
That seems the only way you will get some sort of satisfaction for what Rob says is you being 'insensitive'.
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Personally I think that Other than socials and the regulars that enjoy the banter, a majority of people that use chatrooms have no intentions to sex .

That's the precise opposite to why I use the chatrooms...
I only use them if I am looking to meet...
Takes all sorts huh :lol2:
Funny you should mention that. We have had more luck meeting through the chatroom than any other means smile
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I don't think it matters too much to most people that you have your cock pic on your profile. It's your profile, so put on it what you want. Face pics are always far more likely to assist you than cock pics though.
One thing I will say is that I don't understand what you mean by the following statement or it's relevance: 'I do have but you can get up your lazy bum and mail me for it.'
It is a seperate paragraph and doesn't seem to relate to anything else.
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really mids you do read a lot more into things than are ever there
i suggested we did not know all the facts
trev stated as a community we sometimes are a little to quick assume things (which i have also been guilty of at one time or another )
but no one no where has pointed a finger at you jez!!!! all your guilty of is being a oversensitive to whats written in the forum or laymans term being a bit of a tit lol

Thankfully someone else noticed the meaning behind my last post, namely that on reflection I may have leapt to the wrong conclusion. I don't think so, but I offered a reason what had made me to think so.
It's getting to the stage round here that I can't even point out my own mistakes without someone taking offence. Just for the record, this time I do mean you Jed.
That's a very good point Rob, and it certainly seems there is an assumption amongst the morally incorruptible forumites of cheating.
For my part it's because the OP mentions wanting somewhere to go. If their partner was aware then why would she have to go anywhere? Why not just stay at home? Those questions are of course rhetorical and indeed private to the OP, but I thought I would demonstrate a train of thought as to why there could be an assumption of cheating.
This Shows a hotel that is available at reduced rates nearby, although it isn't on the Isle of Wight so is probably not really an option. My suggestion would be to ring/email round local hotels and see if they are willing to do the same thing. I know that places like premier inn's, Travelodge etc are willing to rent rooms during the day, but they tend not to advertise it.
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Call me old fashioned but nothing would repulse me more than knowing my man had brought back his knockoff to our home and messed with her in the marital bed (or anywhere in the home for that matter)
I could just about forgive the cheating but if it had been conducted at our home hell would freeze over before I could let it go, I'd slaughter them both.

Ditto that Toots although i doubt i could forgive the cheating also
I feel the same. Talk about rubbing one's face in it!
Windows 8 was designed for touch screen desktops and laptops. If you don't have one but you are operating the system, then I'm afraid you are the wrong side of cash street.
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What is the biggest disgrace, is this is a back door way, that this government can do mass sackings. They are saying the fire fighters can not draw a pension until 60.....but most importantly they are introducing a fitness test, and if you fail, they can say you are not fit to work and therefore out of a job.

Central government has not implemented a fitness test. Local fire and rescue authorities have, in some areas, introduced fitness tests. There may only be a subtle difference, but it's important to note that not every firefighter in the country is required to carry out the fitness test, which incidentally varies between authorities and doesn't have a national standard.
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It's good to see you have such faith and confidence in the modern fire service.

You don't?
Have I said that I don't? Please show me where I said this.
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I'm sure many people wish they could retire and still take home 90% of their working wage.

I'll bet.
But would they be willing or even able to do the work these brave men and women do?
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Have you ever smelt burning human flesh? It lingers on your nostrils for days/weeks. It's sickening.
Yes.
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Seen a completely charred body?
Yes
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It's gut wrenching and It has you heaving and looking for the nearest hedge but sadly you can't just leave your assigned task as you might in an office environment.
I Know
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You have to deal with it.
Once again I know.
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How about pulling a decapitated mutilated cadaver out of a burned out car wreck moments after you've eaten your supper?
No, because it's a crime scene and removing the evidence is never a good idea.
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Someone has to do it and these brave guys/gals do. They are worth every penny in their pension receipts. If those people who wish they could get such a deal they would first have to earn it.
It's good to see you have such faith and confidence in the modern fire service.
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But there is another way: promotion and a less physically arduous role.

Not everyone can or wishes to climb the promotional ladder in an organisatIon like the FB, Paramedics or Police. That's the freedom of choice. However if I knew I had to progress to stay in my job I would endeavour to do so. I'm afraid I wouldn't be content with staying in the same job for 42 years without trying to advance myself.
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These services need 'doers' and the role of the FB front line manager is an extremely technical one requiring high levels of scientific expertise. Pumping water on to a fire needs technical skills involving pressure levels and heights. Pumping water on to the 'wrong' sort of fire could have explosive results.
Most of the physics involved is handled by the driver, who is not a front line manager, just a firefighter. Almost every type of incident is risk assessed in advance anyway, and dynamic assessments are carried out primarily by the front line managers, who have all been promoted above firefighter. The chances of causing an explosion in the way you described is negligible to say the least.
A competent firefighter earns &28,481 without including overtime. When he retires he will have an income of £26,000 from his state and work pension. I'm sure many people wish they could retire and still take home 90% of their working wage.
I don't agree with the strike action, but I do agree that no one should reasonably expect someone in the late fifties to carry out a full range of firefighting duties. But there is another way: promotion and a less physically arduous role.
The fact that we get older and age takes it's toll is well recognised in the armed forces. No Soldier, Sailor or Airman is permitted to join up and serve into their fifties at the basic rank. If they get promoted they are offered a contract extension. If they do not progress then their contract is not extended and they leave the forces. Why not do the same for the fire service.
A room can be created just for couples, but it must be passworded.
Look here
It's in the T's and c's of the chatroom that we all agree to by using the it: You cannot kick someone from a room due to the colour of their skin, their geographical location, sexual orientation, their membership status or if they are not on cam. If, for example, you want a room for Couples only, you should make this a Private room with a password, so that entry is by invite only
I personally don't care whether its a MF couple or a same sex couple, I only think of the setting and what's appropriate.
I am a very affectionate guy. I tell Mrs t and the kids that I love them many times everyday. I think nothing of a brush on the arm or a hug, a kiss, holding hands or just being close to either my wife or my kids in public.
However I would draw the line at anything I didn't want my kids to see given the setting. Nobody should be french kissing in the ball pool at McDonalds, no hands should be slipping into clothing in the supermarket queue and definitely no one should be getting their bits out whilst ordering plasterboard at Homebase.
There is a time and a place for everything. French kissing in a bar at night or a club is expected. hands slipping into clothing in a restaurant at night, no problem. Getting your tits out on the beach, why not. Getting your other bit's out.... well maybe if your dogging lol
For me it is not the act, merely the appropriateness of that act in the current setting.
One thing that has never been satisfactorily explained to me is why I must fund the BBC. I can pay for sky/virgin/whatever if I want to access their services and accept that the money I send their way will in one way or another end up boosting their profits. The key thing is that I have a choice.
With the BBC I have no choice whatsoever, I have to pay money by law to a profit making organisation, before I can even consider the option of paying for sky etc.
The situation is a joke. If you want to watch any TV in this country you have to pay the BBC. Maybe the monopolies commission should get involved!