If they have arrived in France than they have escaped persecution and the EU rules say that they should apply for asylum in the first EU country they reach. Therefore France should treat them as asylum seekers and we should treat them as immigrants.
GnV, I think I kind of get your meaning. I'm not sure how much you know on the subject but people can not simply turn up on the door and expect a handout. In those circumstances I too would suspect that some cases aren't genuine.
I've had a look at our foodbank and taken the liberty of pasting this:
'Care professionals such as doctors, health visitors, social workers, CAB and police identify people in crisis and issue them with a Foodbank voucher. Foodbank clients bring their voucher to a Foodbank centre where it can be redeemed for three days' emergency food. Volunteers meet clients and are able to signpost people to agencies able to solve the longer-term problem.'
This story was reported by the a few days ago.
Hmmm, it's not just the Ugandans that have passed laws this week.
For someone else? Nah, stuff that.
For me? Well of course I would.
Have you changed your opinion already? You said the start of this thread that we shouldn't allow any of them in because they are gay.
Wow, this is a complex issue and no mistake.
Te law is the law in my opinion. In the UK some of it is established through parliament and some of it is tort, however the constitutions of other countries will always differ from ours in some way, and Uganda is no different.
There are over 100,000 Ugandan British living in the UK and rightly or wrongly immigration will continue, it's a fact of life.
I personally am appalled by the Law in Uganda today which, like many other countries, is against what we in a democracy consider to be human rights.
However there is no international accord on legislation for human rights and therefore we as the UK rely on political pressure and treaties to try and sway opposing governments.
If someone from another country breaks our law we ask for them to be extradited to face our justice. If the other country does not object because they think we might torture the accused then they may grant the extradition. But that means that we have to have a legal extradition treaty in the first place. Likewise if one of our citizens breaks the law elsewhere they have to face the same system. There are more than enough of them doing it throughout the world at this present time.
Immigration is such a big topic in UK politics that to open the doors to any group is political suicide to be honest. I do not believe for one instant that it is right to persecute anyone for their sexuality, but neither do I believe that we should open our doors to thousands of Ugandan gays and/or pretenders. I have faith that at some point pressure will be bought to bear to alter the situation.
We as common folk do not know whether this is part of some grand scheme. Maybe the Ugandan Government were hoping that by passing the law we would take in a load of immigrants and solve them a few problems? Maybe our Government knew this and released this statement to make the Ugandan officials think twice? It might all be a double bluff.
Within the next ten years, probably by 2020, we will be at war in Africa. I wonder how many people will agree with us 'going in' at the time, and how many of them will moan about Ugandan immigration then.
That tends to happen only when there is a high level of interactivity within the room. There really is no point increasing the number of people in a room when no one is chatting.
To Mrs T:
Hope you like the new vacuum cleaner?
Why are you reading this? you have work to do!
That happens because someone else has left the room, thereby creating space for you to join it. Rather than shutting chat down you could just keep trying to join the room, it has the same affect.
There are areas of somerset that have been under water for six weeks. Two weeks ago I was listening to a BBC local radio broadcast in the area of the Thames that is currently flooded and the Nimby's were saying that 'it serves them right for living in a part of somerset that could flood'
Well quite frankly I hope that the floods have washed out the mouths of the stuck up nimbys and they have as much, if not more misery than the people they showed no compassion for.
You could also say the same about the terrace, jacuzzi and sauna. The reason they all exist is to provide a landing room for everyone who logs into the chatrooms. On a busy night you cannot join the pool or beachbar and so the third room the server puts you in is the jacuzzi (IIRC), next might be the terrace, then lounge etc. The user is then free to stay in the room or join another of their choice.
So in simple terms the extra rooms are there to cater for those, somewhat rare occassions these days, when the other landing rooms are full. If they were not there then people would not be able to join the chatroom at all.
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