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I read this a "Large Hard-On Collider"
Probably not a good idea at those speeds.
You mean it's not?
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You mean it's not?
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bbw_loverNkitty
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You mean it's not?
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Some of you fellow nerds will probably know that the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) will be switched on next week and I for one think it's one of the most exciting things to happen in modern times.
However with other concerns such as the credit crunch and the continuing wars in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, could the money be better spent elsewhere?
However with other concerns such as the credit crunch and the continuing wars in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, could the money be better spent elsewhere?
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Quote by helnheaven
Im a female, not so's anyone would notice
More fool them!
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Quote by helnheaven
I was 24. It was crap, he was crap and I remember thinking, is that it?
That's what most people say about me.
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I don't usually worry about such things I'm much more interested in getting to know the person.
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Quote by TanKinky
I noticed something very interesting on the photo gallery
A photo of a clothed woman got more looks than womens tits/clits etc
Why do you think that is?
Cos ppl get fed up of gynacological stuff and just want to see a human being!
Most parts of the anatomy basically look the same however a women/man can have a million poses/smiles/eye and or body language. Shots which are more roleplay style or even just the hint of "im really into this" as opposed to close up shots which all look the same will always win hands down imo
As for the new pics you are after?
possibly ask a close friend to take some? set the camera to self timer and try more natural poses, If you can take pics with your webcam (if you have one) have a play about with that for chest / head shots as its easier to navigate a mouse than a entire camera.
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Well said Tanny. There are too many pictures of people showing close ups of their bits, but you have no idea what they (the person) really looks like.
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Quote by winchwench
My take-
four years ago, I went on board the ship t …
Thanks very much for this post Winchwench, I'm glad you came out of it in one piece. Your comments highlights what Helen Mirren was saying about whether things like this should go to court or not as many such cases have. It also highlights what I was trying to say, as well as Anne Widdecombe, about responsiblity and that one's actions, past and/or present, can "inadvertently contributed to the situation".
It was very brave of you to submit your post, but thank you very much for your contribution, and once again I'm glad your came out of it in one piece.
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Quote by Freckledbird
Thank you Cherrytree :kiss I had a think after I posted it.. and said to Keeno I thought it might be because people didn't know what to say. I just felt I had to say something, as people were making comments without the actual knowledge of the situation, which I had.
Some people DO have the knowledge and choose not to discuss it, :thumbup:
Yep, and just because it's posted, doesn't mean people should be expected to respond
No one's expected to do anything? Free choice?
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Quote by TanKinky
People who dress in a certain way are not "asking for it" i often go out in mini skirts low cut tops etc thats just the way i am
People under the influence of drink and/or drugs are certainly more vunerable but again they are not "asking for it" either
The way things are, the victim is often made to feel like a criminal to protect the offender in the first place.
Maybe its our rose tinted view of the world and the many times the offender(s) are made into victims
Dont know if im making much sence but there ya go
Ho hum
That's why it's so complicated Tanny. Regardless of how someone is dressed or how much alcohol she/he has had doesn't mean that they "are asking for it".
Interestingly the majority of victims are usually dressed down not up, and usually doing some mundane task. So the whole issue of dressing sexily or getting drunk plays only a small part.
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Quote by TanKinky
Females? Janis Joplin,Eva cassidy, :smitten: and Pink
All good at what they do and all very different imo
Groups? gotta be Abba
:karaoke: "It was like shooting a sitting duck
A little small talk, a smile and baby I was stuck
I still don't know what you've done with me
A grown-up woman should never fall so easily
I feel a kind of fear
When I don't have you near
Unsatisfied, I skip my pride
I beg you dear..." :karaoke:
Males? Oh gosh :scared:
John Lennon :angel:
Oops was only supposed to pick one!well i dont know it depends on my mood, listen to abba the most i think
Good choice Tanny! The only Beatle that mattered.
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Quote by Calista
Actually the law does take that into account. If the 'victim' knowingly puts themselves in a dangerous or risky situation, they are generally seen as being culpable.
Pah! All that means is if I wear a short skirt and go out for a drink then 'mea culpa', not the person taking advantage of that?
Sadly that used to be the case! Most legal professionals try not to make such crass judgments anymore, but I suspect it probably still happens more than it should.
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Quote by Cherrytree
Yes, this is unequivocally and the guy should be punished. But due to the sequence of events and tacit agreement that woman has to take some responsibility for the ensuing .
So yes, is emotive, nasty and complex, but the victim isn't always blame free.
I absolutely disagree.
If someone got mugged walking down a dimly lit street, would we say that the victim person has to "take some responsiblity" for being mugged?
Was that person, by dint of putting themselves in a risk situation, giving tacit agreement to be mugged?
Would we be saying the mugging victim "isn't always blame free"?
Actually the law does take that into account. If the 'victim' knowingly puts themselves in a dangerous or risky situation, they are generally seen as being culpable.
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You might consider just meeting people first, get to know them better, and maybe in time find someone who either doesn't mind being filmed, or will actively suggest it. If you limit yourselves purely to the filming aspect it might put people off who are worried about privacy.
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I tend to agree mostly with Keeno here. However I would also have to admit I have a major preference for Marc Bolan, Tyrannosaurus Rex and very early period, and the Cocteau Twins.
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Quote by Deviants
Back to the OP's question
In the scenario that Helen Mirren mentioned and commented on we both think she may have a point, and that it would be hard to prosecute in those circumstances.
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Thanks for your comment Deviants, and a well observed opinion.
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Quote by Peanut
It is a highly complicated issue in my view and one that probably requires a re-evaluation. If really is , then what is ? Is a violation in it's own right? Or is a feminist issue? And how we properly define it?
, as a definition is actually very simple. Non-consentual sex. When Person A has sex with Person B when it's clear that Person B does not give permission (either implied or explicit).
It's the circumstances that make it complex. Most cases of are pretty clear cut, but in certain, rare situations the 'rapee' has to take some (from a little to a lot depending on the circumstances) contributory responsibility. For example, a girl is picked up in a bar and agrees to go back to the hotel with a guy. At this point, although it isn't black and white yet, any reasonable adult of either sex would know that there is some likelihood of sex occurring. Said woman carries on up to the guy's room. They have a drink and some clothing is removed (voluntarily). again any adult would know that sex is highly likely to happen. They lay down and cuddle and have a diddle. At which point the woman says no. The guy carries on and has sex with her.
Yes, this is unequivocally and the guy should be punished. But due to the sequence of events and tacit agreement that woman has to take some responsibility for the ensuing .
So yes, is emotive, nasty and complex, but the victim isn't always blame free.
As is usual in these things I'm not saying anything to make light of a nasty crime, but sometimes things aren't always clear cut.
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Thanks Peanut for a point well made. This highlights the precise difficulty with the subject, and it is further muddy by false accusations and on occasions peoples loss of memory due to excess alcohol etc. is , with that there is no doubt, but the circumstances that surround it are many and varied.
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Quote by Calista
So rather than address my point you pick out the instance where I focused on the female? All the way through that post I said person to get away from all rapists are men, apart from the bit about clothing?
I'm not familiar with any cases that deal with a man wearing too short a skirt or showing too much cleavage, I wasn't aware that your average Joe had those specific problems? (although granted I am excluding TV/CD/TS from this aspect).
I agree that we misinterpret ourselves, but is never a misinterpretation, it is a violation. The person cannot be excused because of a misinterpretation.
And where I stand on it .. never will be a feminist issue! It's a societal issue.
Sorry, but the main thrust of your argument strongly implied female. However I agree with you that it is a societal issue, and that is why I'd suggested a re-evaluation.
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Quote by Calista
I've highlighted the bit in red that I found pertinent. How far down the line do you take responsibility?
Does it lie with the man/woman who can see that the other person is so drunk and incoherent that it's impossible for them to comprehend the situation?
Does it lie with the person who is in the situation of facing being for not being in full possession of their faculties?
Does it lie with the bar staff who keep serving someone despite them being extremely drunk?
Dies it lie with the female who, being attractive and having a nice figure, choses to dress in a particular way?
Does it lie with the male who thinks the female as dressed above "deserves it"?
Or does it really lie with the person who just wants to go out for a good night, but gets *xxxxx* added to their drink?
You can trace responsibility right back to the "victim", because if they hadn't gone out etc.
There is no "inadvertently contributed to the situation", ultimately the responsibility lies with the person commiting the vile act of !
Sorry but I have to take issue with you here. We all do things that can sometimes be misinterpreted, which can catch us unawares, so to say that " … responsibility lies with the person commiting the vile act of …" inadvertently subscribes to the notion that all women are victims and all men are rapists. Both Helen MIrren and Anne Widdecombe would strongly disagree with you there.
It is a highly complicated issue in my view and one that probably requires a re-evaluation. If really is , then what is ? Is a violation in it's own right? Or is a feminist issue? And how we properly define it?
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Quote by venus68
...apparently I have the vagina of a teenager
It's a good job it's a confidential service or the teenager might want it back :P
hahaha very funny. They're not having it back. I'm keeping it lol. I'm going to preserve it in a chastity belt, or should I grow old gracefully and misuse it until it catches up with the rest of me?
… well …?
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Quote by Peanut
...apparently I have the vagina of a teenager
It's a good job it's a confidential service or the teenager might want it back :P
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Quote by Misskitty_2008
Some very thought provoking threads going on at the moment... this one is especially close to me.
In 2005 I lost my husband. The coroner recorded the cause of death as natural but alcohol played a part in his state of health up to his death. (Though another supposed factor was the side effect of a drug he shouldn't have been prescribed...)
He used alcohol to "not feel anything" and they were his precise words. He lost his dad at 13 to cancer, then his mum at 21 to cancer, after nursing her on his own for years (no help from family) we then lost people over the next few years to various things, but the majority to cancer. When my mum died of a heart attack in 1998 that was the start of the "falldown" (another one of his words)
He lost his best friend to cancer in 2002, then another passed away suddenly, then my brother was diagnosed with non Hodgkins lymphoma. It was in 2003 when he had to leave his job as he couldn't cope without a drink. He had worked in that job for over 26 years and in that time had only taken two days off for a leg injury, even working while his mum was ill. He had never had anything off the state until that point.. and it took four months to get that sorted. He had paid into the system in that 26 years a lot of money.. so we didn't see anything wrong in asking for help now that we needed it.. though others thought differently.
They didn't think he should have anything because he was an "alkie". But before he got really bad, he used to help others with their addictions, because he understood what they were going through. Yet we had one hell of a job getting help as in Oxford only 20% of alcoholics get help, though 100% of drug addicts get it. I can't fault the people who tried though.
Like peanut said, alcoholism IS a disease, though some poo poo this. A lot of people with any sort of addiction use it to cope. My husband couldn't deal with all the loss that we had gone through, and he finally passed away 3 months after my brother died of cancer in September 2005. That was the final nail...
What a lot of people don't realise is that it is just as hard for the families... I went through hell dealing with it... I was racing up and down the country as my brother was in Yorkshire, and my husband was ill in Oxford... plus trying to keep a job at the same time. I guess I'm just one of those people who can deal with things.. I just get on with it.. though my coping mechanism is OCD....
The point is.. some can and some can't. But please, please don't judge someone without knowing their story first.. at his funeral over 300 people came as he was so well loved.. he was a happy drunk.. yes there are some... I have been in the local papers and national magazines about this subject, and also on BBC news. I am not one to give advice, but can point people in the right direction, having been there, done that.
Sorry this turned into a bit of a rant.. its just something I had to get off my chest...
Please look beyond the bottle and try to understand why they do it.....
Well said Kitty! it needed to be said.
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In general I tend to look at updates to threads, or threads I haven't read. However every now and again I will look further than the first page to remind myself what has gone before and sometimes I might even have something new to contribute.
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Quote by duncanlondon
I think if sex was approached with complete common sense and responsibility the human race would die out. It wasn't designed to be something that involves high ideals. It simply follows on closely behind, food water and shelter in the order of things. As such its also closely related to agression and mixed passions. In many cases submission and loss of will power.
In comparison the legal process which subsequently goes into action, involves lengthy deliberations, a highly complex process and people using their wits to the very edge of reasoning. A complete contrast to the savage and primitive actions of .
One process is unable to account for the other.
… but isn't that the point? Isn't that what makes it so difficult to disentangle? There are so many different motives and points of view, that trying to formulate any kind of consistent and coherent argument is very hard.
I think her comments are meant to be reflective. It is too easy to see attackers and victims in these types of issues, and too easy to see the victims as pathetic. Isn't that what Anne Widdecombe is trying to say? Is she not saying that perhaps the way to deal with the whole issue of , of any kind, is for the courts, the general public, and women themselves not to see themselves as mere victims?
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Quote by keeno
I'm sorry but this seems very very simple to me.
A woman should be able to be alone with a man without it being tacite agreement to sex
An old lady should be able to walk down the street late at night without being mugged.
You should be able to leave your front door open without being burgaled.
You should be able to leave a pile of money in your front garden without it being stolen.
Your actions shouldn't lead to you being a victim of crime.
However, common sense has to prevail somewhere at sometime.
I've found all the comments made so far extremely interesting, but I think your comment has been the most pertinent so far Keeno.
Nobody would argue that is a good thing, but equality being robbed is not a good thing either (no direct comparisons being made here), but there is a point where, as an adult, we make decisions, and are responsible for our own actions. The argument isn't did she, or he, ask for it (bearing in mind that men can also be ), but whether one's actions had, even inadvertently, contributed to the situation.
It is a highly complex issue and people tend to take one position or another but I believe it's much more complicated than that and I find Anne Widdecombe's comment"…We can't simply say that women have no responsibility whatsoever: to do that is to treat us like complete idiots." most intriguing.
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Hopefully you've all heard the recent controversy over Helen Mirren's comments about . Bearing in mind her controversial reputation does she have a point? Mention and most people react emotionally about a subject that is clearly not black and white, but did she have a point?
My own view is best summed up by a comment make by Anne Widdecombe :scared: ;
Dame Helen is absolutely right. This is sheer common sense prevailing. Of course if a woman goes back to a man's room she has responsibility for her actions. Of course she should accept that she has got herself into that position. What's she asking for? A cup of tea? If we say to women that you can go as far as you like with a man but once you you don't like it then you can go running to the law, well then we are offering them a false comfort. I think Dame Helen is absolutely correct. We can't simply say that women have no responsibility whatsoever: to do that is to treat us like complete idiots.
Bearing in mind the potential emotional heat this topic might generate I would like to hear your opinions, but would also like you all to keep it friendly.
My own view is best summed up by a comment make by Anne Widdecombe :scared: ;
Dame Helen is absolutely right. This is sheer common sense prevailing. Of course if a woman goes back to a man's room she has responsibility for her actions. Of course she should accept that she has got herself into that position. What's she asking for? A cup of tea? If we say to women that you can go as far as you like with a man but once you you don't like it then you can go running to the law, well then we are offering them a false comfort. I think Dame Helen is absolutely correct. We can't simply say that women have no responsibility whatsoever: to do that is to treat us like complete idiots.
Bearing in mind the potential emotional heat this topic might generate I would like to hear your opinions, but would also like you all to keep it friendly.
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Quote by TanKinky
What are the different accounts?
He holds 2 accounts..
That's just greedy.
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