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partyman
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 63
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Quote by Chaotic_Spirit
Hopefully putting it on here will make people aware of whats happening and avoid the van, as it's very unqiue.

"Your" blue Dodge van**, and "my" silver Vectra** with blacked out back windows is just about pushing it I think...got a feeling that the Mods have a downer on a "Name and Shame" list, in case it opens the doors to unjustifiable persecution.
** not that these are the vehicles that C_S or I drive, they are the ones who we have had bad encounters with.
Quote by Chaotic_Spirit
some cheeky sod decided to get his camera phone out and start fliming.

Sorry to hear that Chaotic_spirit. I've seen it happen though (see thread http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/62481.html?highlight= )
Thankfully in my case, that car full of yoofs have only ever been seen once since, they got nothing and have never been back.
Hopefully, the idiot at Blid will get the cold shoulder off everyone else now and be frozen out of the scene...that tends to happen when the grapevine is in full effect. Unless he's the hardened sort, he'll pretty soon get fed up of getting nothing and find something else to entertain him.
If on the other hand the lads there do nothing about it and the couples grapevine puts the warning out, and the couples stop going, then the lads will only have themselves to blame.
Quote by lucyweebaps-cpl
we also need to know how many are wishing to go to swingingclub on the Sat ? and if your cpl or sgl..
I thought that paragraph explained it rolleyes ..

You can roll your eyes all you want, but that paragraph contained enough ambiguity in it for anyone to read from it what they wanted to see/hear.
"How many are wishing to go" - how many what? Singles, or couples, or both?
Wishing to go and being able to get in when you get there are two different things. Especially as Blackpool's best swingers club is couples onlyon Saturday's - that's an important thing to get straight I would have thought.
Quote by MS_SM
We last went there about 6 weeks ago and the whole experience put my gf off and we havent been since. Have been followed but not for long. however, watchers were at the window before we had stopped the car. dont you realise it is much better to be asked / invited the show is much better that way. what has it been like lately as we are eager to return.

I totally agree that the personal invitation makes for a far better scene. HOWEVER, you need to understand the whole of the scene to appreciate what and why things happen. Then decide if it's for you at all.
As I mentioned in another thread, I had my first show in 5 weeks the other day. Chances are that at Blidworth, (esp with the tactics that the lads there obviously employ) it's been just as long since one of them has had a decent show. So there they are, in a gang chatting together about football, the weather, how great dogging was in the days of the Horse and cart, and all that, and along comes a couple..."potential show material".
So, who wants to see a show?...Everyone!...So guess what, everyone shuffles over to where the couple are, and, well, the result was as you described it.
If as you suggest, they all wait for an invitation, who is going to trust that you are going to give an invitation out at all? And if you invite a few people at a time, who wants to be the last one, and risk getting nothing because you will have had enough before you invite him over?
That's the mindset that these guys have I'm afraid. Seen it all before. And I haven't even touched on the thought patterns of the guys whose brains go along the lines of "if I don't get a show, no-one else gets one either". And yes, they do exist.
If only it were a perfect world, but it aint. If only there were more shows to go around, such desparation might not manifest itself, But on that last point, that seems to be an ever downwards cycle that some sites are going down.
Quote by lincskate
We never gave it a thought that there would be such a phone network!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We live and learn!

Aye - one big learning curve innit?
Had one couple by us last year who saw a dogger get on to his phone (rather an indiscreet move on his part) and they just stopped the show, ahnd wouldn't restart til he had gone, and they told the other guys that they too would lose the show if they let him return. Kind of self-policing of the sitution. And good on 'em for doing it too. lol
Quote by lincskate
Any other guidance would help.

Try to get something that can "jam" mobile phone calls. Then you won't have the Notts Derbys and South Yorks Dogging Associaltion coming on top of you like a ton of bricks.
Quote by kinkypal
I'm solo male returning to the 'scene' & dogging after being out of it for a year or two. I'm aware of many of the old popular loctions...any problems with nutters & spoilers - or perhaps increased police activity?

Basically, thanks to people writing rave reviews about Birminghams traditional locations on the web, dogging tourism has over the last 2 years or so virtually killed the game off. People from all corners of the country have flooded the traditional sites out.
There are still the occasional shows, but these now get swamped out. What you used to have to yourself, now gets flooded out by people phoning and texting their mates who all descend on the location within minutes.
I had my first show in 5 weeks last night, then half an hour after the couple had gone home, a car full of yoofs turned up, out of nowhere, not knowing me from Adam, asking me where "the action was". They had been texted by their mate to get to the car park as it was "all happening", and they should get a "slice of the action".
The scary part is, that whereas I can take that sort of approach in my stride, and feign ignorance, the next car that they approach could find what they are after to be offensive, and make a complaint.
So as you can see...all is not well on the Brummie dogging scene...
Quote by lucyweebaps
I won't be posting the name of the venue or club in open forums for obvious security reasons smile
Lucy & Ken xx

Fair enough, but for the sake of the Single Guys who want to go, will it be a Couples Only club that you intend to go to on the Saturday night? Otherwise it might be a bit of a hollow weekend away if the couples go one way on the Sat night leaving the guys to sit back at the hotel twiddling their thumbs.
Quote by piercedJon
Bones is dead, so I believe is scotty, and checkov and lu-hura are still doing the sci-fi conventions, lol.

Not forgetting that Czekov beamed into another Universe as "Bester" in Babylon5
nor, dare we forget that Nurse Chappell from the original ST evolved into Lwaxana Troi (Deanna Troi's mother) and was also the "voice" of every Federation Star Ships' computer throughout the known Universe.
Now, enough jovilaity and onto serious matters, where is that lovely London lass, Marina Sirtis, who played Deanna Troi?
I have always thought that Gabriella was a nice name. But what do I know?
Quote by da69ve
My wife is a twin.......it would never happen in a million years...trust me on that one!!

I have to disagree with you Dave - your wife maybe not, but another pair of twins - yes.

well has anyone really had sex with twins then......because to be honest i don't think it would happen....its a family thing that would probably put them off having sex in front of a sibling.
Kind of agree with you there. I've "scored" with both of two sisters (separately), both of whom know that the other is in the swinging scene, but neither would play in the same bed as the other.
Mind you, maybe it's folklore and all that but I do hear stories about sisters "doing it all night long", and a guy I know did get to play the Generation Game once with the ladies of the house where he was a lodger whilst working in Poland. Well maybe it's true and maybe it's a bit of a "Billy Liar", but who can prove it one way or the other.
Quote by BiWelshMinx
... there won't be many males younger than you allowed to access these Forums

As a point of interest, how do you vet the ages of people in these forums? How do you know whether there are or aren't any schoolkids playing genuine people up on this site?
OK, nowadays you have had to have paid to get this far into the site, but even then there are free offers to trial the full range of facilities given to free members, that get the potentially under-aged in here, and any kids that joined in the days of the old regime will still be able to play their pranks on here.
OK, so you may not want to say exactly HOW you vet peoples ages, but please assure us that you CAN!
If you can find a bath big enough for 3 people, can you let me know please? I'm looking to renovate my bathroon, and I'll be needing a new tub. lol
Quote by PoloLady

Not all swingers clubs are based on the towel-wearing sauna'n'jacuzzi theme. Xtasia and Liberty Elite are based on a Nightclub theme, and the Private Club is based on a brothel.

Has Libby's took out the jacuzzi then????? confused
They've still got it, and Xtasia have one too...but the point is that the whole club doesn't centre around it..At these clubs you can take care over your appearance, chill, socialise, drink, dance, bonk, or whatever, and not have to get wet, or stripped down to the lowest common denominator.
It's not like Chameleons where if you aren't stripped into a towel within nanoseconds of arriving, you are asked to depart again. (OK slight exageration there, maybe... lol )
Quote by twos_company
I would offer to help but think I am the only person who went to a Swingers club and refused to take my towel off to get in the jacuzzi, ended up just paddling my feet in the end confused
Dont think I would be any good at this reviewing business wink

don`t blame you....
can`t see the point of putting on make up , nice clothes doing hair etc-
only to get in the jacussi and wind up looking like a drowned rat!!!!!
Not all swingers clubs are based on the towel-wearing sauna'n'jacuzzi theme. Xtasia and Liberty Elite are based on a Nightclub theme, and the Private Club is based on a brothel.
Oops, sorry, that was a bit misleading. the Private Club isn't based on a brothel, it IS a brothel.
Does the Management want reviews of Brothels as well :shock: , and if so, will they pay for the "expenses" ??? lol :lol: :lol:
Can someone please PM me when this thread gets back "on topic", as I'd like to help out if I can.
Drivers door or Passengers door? Whether to converse before or not? Bi guys or straights only? wow...all good stuff and a thread can be made out of each of them.
Drivers door or Passengers door first - my preference is for the Passengers side (and sometimes getting into a mess when a lady is driving redface lol The reason basically is to send a signal that I'm straight and am interested in females. In mist of the car parks in my neck of the woods (or golf course as the case may be) there are about 10 times as many gays as dogging singles, and gay guys do make a point of being a nuisance to couples in an effort to get rid of the hetero scene on "their cruising patch". What I try to do with "body language" is to say "I'm not gay, I'll not be a nuisance". Admittedly, this may be a local thing and in other areas, as has been said before, the done thing is different.
Pre-show conversation - I don't go in for that unless I get "yoohoo'd" by the couple. I always end a show with a polite thank you and this has often ended with a chat afterwards, when the overwhelming feedback from the couples who I have spoken to is that guys who talk the couples to death are viewed as a pain in the behind. As the couples point out, if they wanted bland conversation, they could have gone to the pub. Very often tyhey are on a tight time scale (OK DD and others make a night of it, but everyone is different I suppose) and they don't want their playtime wasted by idle chit chat over nothing. So, and again being mindful of being wrong on occasions, by the laws of probability, I'll keep my mouth shut. And anyway, waiting until after a show cuts down the chances of having spilled all your beans to an inquisitive press reporter couple.
Bi's or straights - I've been asked what I know of certain people (e.g. that guy in the red Mazda etc) as to whether they are kosha, or if they are gay or whatever, and I do feel that unless the dogging couple's guy is bi, that they only want to mix with straight guys. My patch is known for there being a number of gay cruisers with HIV playing unprotected, so it's natural to want to avoid that risk. Condoms go so far from protecting against the risk of what a bi guy might bring from the gay scene, abstainance is safer still.
Wow, another epistle. Just goes to show though that what's right in one corner of the country might be totally wrong elsewhere. A bit of local knowledge and flexibility of approach does wonders.
Quote by cockslut
wednesdays very quiet at xtasia we found, but suppose it depends what you like.

Their profile suggests that they are into bi-fun, so Wed's ought to be perfect for them. Part of Xtasia is devoted to bi-action on Weds, while the rest of the club does the usual singles / couples thing.
Quote by marriedmale

Contruary to polpular belief there are some of us guys who are genuine and are honest guys who just like some fun in a consenting way with like minded individuals And therefore get really annoyed by these idiots!! I think 2 of us have just spoken up thats all!!

Make that 3 !
You're right, being a single guy is hard enough without hundreds of idiots ruining it still further. What I would say is that there are less and less idiots at the spots around here as the locals know who's genuine and who's new / potentially unwanted, and move areas so only those 'in the know' will be there.
Neverless, it's a sad fact that there will always be a stupid element, and hope that those that know the few of us who really are considerate, etc. etc. continue to do what they do.
Add another to the bandwagon - me! (sorry, just arrived in from a night out redface
But basically, I fully support everything that has been said before me, and compliments on how well it has been said!
Quote by vflange
between jailbait and bus pass

or as one of the presenters on Top Gear described it - "between Suffering from Acne and Suffering from Arthritis" :shock:
I saw all about Lowestoft in that latest series of Rock School...
...I wouldn't like to meet any of the "over 25's" in Lowestoft, by the looks of what I saw on telly. Well, the first person over 25 is already over 55 at the same time. The people there are either extremely old or still at Comprehensive School - one or the other, and as there are no guarantees that the kids in school are of legal age, I'd rather not let my mind drift in that direction, thanks very much...which just leaves the aged ones...hardly inspirational stuff is it? :shock:
The good news is that I have your answer for you...
The bad news is that the nearest horny porny cinema to you is in Birmingham! Birmingham has 4 of them in fact. London, Manchester and Huddersfield are the only other cities known to have Porno Cinema clubs I'm afraid.
Quote by swingpembs
You can search google for dogging sites :shock: blimey
Commercialism what next NCP charging £5 a car

Or how about NCP buying up the car parks listed in the Dogging Locations section, and charging membership and admission charges to gain access to them after 7pm at night. :shock:
Quote by spook384
Thanks for link, have been looking at that.
I was just wondering if anybody has found any new places

I take Spooks point on board...some of those locations are well out of date.
That said, the lessons have been learned. anywhere new will be kept quiet so that the journalists, boy racers, idiots and dogging tourists don't muck things up. There ain't no easy way to find out without getting to know someone and being trusted first any more.
I don't think that Toolman has quite got a grip on what dogging is all about. there's more to it than just being in a car instead of a hotel room. Much of the thrill and enjoyment of dogging is the spontinaety and unpredictability of it, and the anonymity that goes with it as well. That just doesn't fit in with the need for photos and autobiographies of potential doggers to his wifes show.
So what will happen if someone's photo and life history isn't suitable? What then if that person happens to drive onto the car park? What if someone not from this site stumbles on the show? These things are perfectly possible in public places.
As has been mentioned, photos and written descriptions are needed...WHY? Which journalist will the information be passed on to?
I suggest that if Toolman wants to have a pre-vetted meeting, in a car or elsewhere, that he should advertise in the Photo Ads section, with a photo and autobiography of himself and his wife, to do the courtesy to others what he is asking them to do to him. Then maybe advertise in LMU, as aside from the car seat being where the wife sits, there's nothing here in common with dogging. IMHO
A thread like this was locked the other day. i suspect that the Moderators will have a sense of humour failure if this keeps on cropping up against their wishes.
Oh, c'mon, there can be only one...the same song that has been banned from nearly every guitar shop in the country...namely "Smoke On The Water" by none other than the great Deep Purple.
Yep that's the one...the song that virtually invented the concept of Air Guitar. There can be no other.
(BTW, #2 in the Air Guitar charts just has to be the live version of Freebirdby Lynyrd Skynyrd!)
Quote by PoloLady
Only loosley related. In a small given period your body mass remains constant. If your member increases in size, then what shrinks to maintain the mass-balance? confused

edit - reply removed... too sensible.
Why do I suspect that the answer there was going to be "brains"??? lol :lol: :lol: It would have been wrong anyway, as at the time of erections, the brains move into the bollocks. :shock: wink
Quote by BLUERAMMER
At the end of the day, Photoshop is an AppleMac programme that allows you to recreate everything you like in a photographic format. I use it everyday in work, yes, I'm a graphic designer! I've touched up Paris Hiltons spider legs on a bikini shot!

AppleMac...appleschmack!!! OK, it used to be so, but that's no longer the case. It's dual-platform, with Adobe's development policy having been switched to get the first releases out for PC (Proper Computers) first!!! :wink: cool :lol: AppleMac users have to wait that much longer for any new releases to come their way. Mind you Photoshop is that good now, it boggles my mind as to what it can do to improve anyway.
BTW, is Photoshop ported for Linux, does anyone know, or do Linux users still have to use GIMP?
Quote by marriedmale
Got to agree with Partyman !

Apparently, and I've not met the guy, but I've been told he is known as the *Director* in that he tells the couples where they can park, who they can show to and who they can have any form of interaction with :shock: confused
Even on the rare nights he is not out there, his *friends* are said to hold the fort and make sure peeps stick to *the rules*. They'll be selling tickets next :huh:
Tracy-Jayne
That's outrageous - why do people still go there though ?
I for one would vote with my feet (or any other part of my anatomy that 'came to hand' - there's a joke in there somewhere)
Tony
I suppose it's because not everyone lives in car parks and so it takes time for the word to get out and about.
Believe it or not, but some people will only go dogging once every several months, and to all of them there is "that" first time.
Bournmouth will have it's fair share of Holidaymakers looking for a spot of dogging whilst in town, and these people won't have a clue what they are letting themselves in for.
Quote by doggingtwo
Hi Uncle,
I also took a pic of the same car park,but i,me sorry to say somebody got in the way so theres no nice moonlit scenery to admire only Mrs Dirty having her bottom smacked by Mrs D2. :shock:

You ought to sell that photo to the makers of that Sheilaswheels Advert! lol