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Suggestions:
1 - Have a full time 'forum chat' room on server 1.
2 - See if any of the members is willing to help with the current site issues. Yeah - I know it sounds like madness... but have you considered that some of the members may have very useful experience. For example, I work for an online business that has 5000+ servers for it's frontline site. I don't work in that part of the business, and personally only look after 30 odd backend servers -- but my point remains somebody in the membership might have useful knowledge and be willing to take a look/help (for free). You never know it might be worth asking...
Quote by 36openminded
Suggestions:
1 - Have a full time 'forum chat' room on server 1.

Thus making it another room that falls into the Chatroom Ops juristiction(sp?)
If it is opened by a chatter then at least that chatter will look after the room for as long as they are present....
Without a host it becomes another room that chat ops have to control...
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Suggestions:
1 - Have a full time 'forum chat' room on server 1.

Thus making it another room that falls into the Chatroom Ops juristiction(sp?)
If it is opened by a chatter then at least that chatter will look after the room for as long as they are present....
Without a host it becomes another room that chat ops have to control...
Good point.
Could make some of the forum chat regulars into chatroom ops... (fire already is, but another might counteract the issue you describe).
Quote by 36openminded
Good point.
Could make some of the forum chat regulars into chatroom ops... (fire already is, but another might counteract the issue you describe).

Not really as chatroom ops are required to use all rooms and not remain in one room....
If they remained in just one room then they are not much use to the rest of the chatrooms really..
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Good point.
Could make some of the forum chat regulars into chatroom ops... (fire already is, but another might counteract the issue you describe).

Fire is an op for ALL rooms, not just the Forum one confused Making forum room members an op, just to control that one room is a ridiculous suggestion - all op's have to float amongst ALL the rooms :?
Besides, if members want to use a room which won't be closed, then they could use the admin rooms, Beach Bar, Jacuzzui, Pool, etc.
Once a certain group of people start suggesting they have a room which remains open after they have left, everyone would want it and since we often have as many as several hundred rooms at any given time to keep an eye on, it is beneficial to close those which do not have a host to control them, thus lightening our workload.
Easiest way to do it is if the current host wishes to leave, someone else can set up a new Forum room and host it. That way the chat can continue without interruption apart from the few seconds or so that it takes to open and move to a new room. Not hard really is it?
TJ
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Good point.
Could make some of the forum chat regulars into chatroom ops... (fire already is, but another might counteract the issue you describe).

Fire is an op for ALL rooms, not just the Forum one confused Making forum room members an op, just to control that one room is a ridiculous suggestion - all op's have to float amongst ALL the rooms :?
Besides, if members want to use a room which won't be closed, then they could use the admin rooms, Beach Bar, Jacuzzui, Pool, etc.
Once a certain group of people start suggesting they have a room which remains open after they have left, everyone would want it and since we often have as many as several hundred rooms at any given time to keep an eye on, it is beneficial to close those which do not have a host to control them, thus lightening our workload.
Easiest way to do it is if the current host wishes to leave, someone else can set up a new Forum room and host it. That way the chat can continue without interruption apart from the few seconds or so that it takes to open and move to a new room. Not hard really is it?
TJ
Ok. Here's another suggestion then: Implement a feature that allows room ownership to be pass on.
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instead of them wasting time creating a new room and everybody moving over.]

A few seconds of time will make *that* much difference? rolleyes
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all op's have to float amongst ALL the rooms confused

I'm sure thats what I said :?
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instead of them wasting time creating a new room and everybody moving over.]

A few seconds of time will make *that* much difference? rolleyes
Hmm - you're right. :shock:
I don't know what the issue is then. It has happened a few times now, we will all be chatting nicely in a room and then an op will come in and say the room has to close as the host has gone. We get asked if anybody wants to create a new room and everybody refuses! .
Odd - oh well maybe everybody was ready to leave anyway...
Personally never had problems opening a room up when host has decided they wish to leave. If we all having a good time then a little commitments to others we know is part of the pleasure and fun. In the event of it being late then everyone will just adjourn back to a main room.
Normally the host should say they leaving and give rest of room a chance to organize something, that if they know how to host a room properly. Then Ops do not have to worry about the room and continue with the other things they have to do.
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Personally never had problems opening a room up when host has decided they wish to leave. If we all having a good time then a little commitments to others we know is part of the pleasure and fun. In the event of it being late then everyone will just adjourn back to a main room.
Normally the host should say they leaving and give rest of room a chance to organize something, that if they know how to host a room properly. Then Ops do not have to worry about the room and continue with the other things they have to do.
:smile2:

That is often the issue; not everone knows how to keep the room rolling
Quote by 36openminded
Suggestions:
1 - Have a full time 'forum chat' room on server 1.
2 - See if any of the members is willing to help with the current site issues. Yeah - I know it sounds like madness... but have you considered that some of the members may have very useful experience. For example, I work for an online business that has 5000+ servers for it's frontline site. I don't work in that part of the business, and personally only look after 30 odd backend servers -- but my point remains somebody in the membership might have useful knowledge and be willing to take a look/help (for free). You never know it might be worth asking...

Hi hun
I don't think this would work . "Forum" by its very definition means that most of the people in it prefer to post rather than chat. It's only us gobby one's that quite like a foray into chat from time to time therefore it's very rare the room is ever full or even halfway full. So a permanent room would probably be surplus to requirements.
I do agree with the comments about opping being more a of a requirement in a more permanent room too. I did once share your opinion about the forum room being a set room, but that was when my world of chat revolved around this room alone. Since being an op, I need to go and visit all the rooms and now fully understand the implications and it has now changed my view.
With regard to peeps that have computer experience in their careers, very often their help is found in abundance in their posts and in their responses to people who need help so alot of them certainly are'nt backward in coming forward when their help is needed wink I'm going to bear you in mind now too whenever I have a techie problem smile
Sorry a bit of a ramble but had a chaotic weekend and still having it confused
Love
FIRE xx
Yes Gnv must admit been in rooms where the host has little or no idea of what is actually happening in there. Or even actually care about the other roomies or site rules.
When I have/do host a room try to ensure keep an eye on the room and roomies rather than get too deeply involved in one conversation. Just my personal view point as host nothing more.
Nothing worse than the room's atmosphere being ruined by problems and if that happens can appreciate more what the Ops and Mods do. Thankfully never had to call upon an Op or mod when hosting a room.
Highlights the fact as host must be fair and unbiased in those situations irrespective of how well know the persons concerned are to you.
By setting out the room rules and remaining consistent in applying them in accordance with site rules with luck helps reduce potential problems happening,though not always.
Those who have been in rooms I've hosted know my pet phrase of.. 'I take no prisoners'..
Much preferring everyone has a good time and enjoys themselves without too much hassle.
Off my soap box now!!!!!
:smile2:
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Yes Gnv must admit been in rooms where the host has little or no idea of what is actually happening in there. Or even actually care about the other roomies or site rules.
When I have/do host a room try to ensure keep an eye on the room and roomies rather than get too deeply involved in one conversation. Just my personal view point as host nothing more.

That's the way I see it too! The enjoyment I get from hosting a room makes it all worthwhile. I've also turned round quite a few "rowdy" rooms where the Host has lost control of the room - without even having access to the kick tool!! An Op would have just closed it because they don't have the time to be interactive and calm things down. I measure our performance against being able to run a room without having to kick anyone - no matter what is going on.
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I measure our performance against being able to run a room without having to kick anyone - no matter what is going on.

Does that include removing single males from a room because they are just that......Single males..... confused
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That's the way I see it too! The enjoyment I get from hosting a room makes it all worthwhile. I've also turned round quite a few "rowdy" rooms where the Host has lost control of the room - without even having access to the kick tool!! An Op would have just closed it because they don't have the time to be interactive and calm things down. I measure our performance against being able to run a room without having to kick anyone - no matter what is going on.

Sorry GnV but you have no idea what a Chat OP would have done rolleyes
I for one have never closed a chatroom because I can't gain control and to suggest that is shocking :eeek:
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An Op would have just closed it because they don't have the time to be interactive and calm things down.

You have no idea how disappointed I am with that comment GnV !!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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An Op would have just closed it because they don't have the time to be interactive and calm things down.

You have no idea how disappointed I am with that comment GnV !!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
You have no idea how unsurprised I am by the comment Sarge rolleyes
As yet have never encountered an Op who hasn't solved any major problem which has occurred in rooms I've been in. Even though I have sat silently fuming at the treatment they have got along with other roomies.
Harder after such disturbances is to stop roomies keep going on about what has happened and therefore prevent room settling back down again. Yet provided everyone agrees to let the matter rest then it sure can.
Have rarely had to resort to using the kick button preferring to allow the person a chance to settle down after any necessary warning.
As for rooms I have run all have been made welcome and certainly do not discriminate by sexual orientation or gender.
Many a time I have stayed up later than planned when hosting a room so everybody can have fun and enjoy the evening. Yes being a host has a certain amount of satisfaction but temper that with the odd abusive comment thrown our hey got a fairly thick skin and those sort of comments tend to bounce off.
Why let the odd one or two spoil it for the majority.
Ooops here I go again on that soap box!! Honest stepped off it again now.
:smile2:
Quote by GnV
An Op would have just closed it because they don't have the time to be interactive and calm things down. I measure our performance against being able to run a room without having to kick anyone - no matter what is going on.

:shock: evil You have no idea how offended I am by that remark GnV rolleyes
As for your own performance as room hosts . . . . . Shut your mouth TJ and don't say a word :dry: :gagged:
TJ :undecided:
Quote by Mallock2006
I measure our performance against being able to run a room without having to kick anyone - no matter what is going on.

Does that include removing single males from a room because they are just that......Single males..... confused
I don't do that Steve. I also stop others from doing it.
Have I touched a nerve somewhere?
I would never suggest that Ops were anything less than helpful... bolt
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Have I touched a nerve somewhere?
I would never suggest that Ops were anything less than helpful... bolt

If you have a specific complaint about the behaviour of the Ops (or Mods) then please raise it with Admin and don't use the forum to scatter non-specific and veiled hints.
rolleyes
Quote by Sgt Bilko
An Op would have just closed it because they don't have the time to be interactive and calm things down.

You have no idea how disappointed I am with that comment GnV !!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
On reflection, it might have been better to say "an Op might be tempted just to close it (but they won't because they are all nice people and really want to help recalcitrant morons (sorry, members) take the pledge and die of polish poisoning" rolleyes
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Have I touched a nerve somewhere?
I would never suggest that Ops were anything less than helpful... bolt

If you have a specific complaint about the behaviour of the Ops (or Mods) then please raise it with Admin and don't use the forum to scatter non-specific and veiled hints.
rolleyes
whoa whoa whoa.... I have no problem with any of the Chatroom Ops or Mods and have no reason to in any way consider taking anyhing like this up with admin!! I think you have misread some harmless banter Jags dunno
Quote by GnV
Have I touched a nerve somewhere?
I would never suggest that Ops were anything less than helpful... bolt

If you have a specific complaint about the behaviour of the Ops (or Mods) then please raise it with Admin and don't use the forum to scatter non-specific and veiled hints.
rolleyes
whoa whoa whoa.... I have no problem with any of the Chatroom Ops or Mods and have no reason to in any way consider taking anyhing like this up with admin!! I think you have misread some harmless banter Jags dunno
No, I haven't misread anything - you may have taken the banter to a new and unfathomable level, something which is obvious from the responses to your 'banter'.
:roll:
Quote by GnV
I measure our performance against being able to run a room without having to kick anyone - no matter what is going on.

Does that include removing single males from a room because they are just that......Single males..... confused
I don't do that Steve. I also stop others from doing it.
:doh: Our memories must be playing up then GnV rolleyes
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Sorry GnV but you have no idea what a Chat OP would have done rolleyes

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You have no idea how disappointed I am with that comment GnV !!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

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:shock: evil You have no idea how offended I am by that remark GnV :roll:

It's official GnV!!! .............. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
...........You have no idea!! confused :? :? lol :lol: wink
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It's official GnV!!! .............. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
...........You have no idea!! confused :? :? lol :lol: wink

rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
:wink:
and I was only trying to be helpful.....
dunno