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Take care at the well known location in been pulled twice recently in as many weeks late at night by police,conversation goes down the usual route...what are doing here late at night,on your own etc etc..ended up getting a producer both times.(make sure your cars whiter than white..any excuse for these arseholes...)and warning about a letter going to my own address telling me where I was on a certain night etc...well thanks guys,very caring..but i dont have Alzheimers..funny thing is.....they didnt seem to want to tackle the thirty odd Gypsies now descended on the site,and I suppose as a taxpayer,Ill be saddled with bill to clean up after these parasites have left....Glad to see the police have solved all proper crime tho'....Not !!!!!!
hiya john
its not jsut u i know a few of the doggers from there who have had letters home and producers to sad
ive not been there for a while but been told to stay away so will do for now
bump into u soon jo x
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Take care at the well known location in been pulled twice recently in as many weeks late at night by police,conversation goes down the usual route...what are doing here late at night,on your own etc etc..ended up getting a producer both times.(make sure your cars whiter than white..any excuse for these arseholes...)and warning about a letter going to my own address telling me where I was on a certain night etc...well thanks guys,very caring..but i dont have Alzheimers..funny thing is.....they didnt seem to want to tackle the thirty odd Gypsies now descended on the site,and I suppose as a taxpayer,Ill be saddled with bill to clean up after these parasites have left....Glad to see the police have solved all proper crime tho'....Not !!!!!!

first things first
they give you a producer as justification for the "stop2 a policeman needs a reason to ask you what you are doing, they cant just go around stopping people who are minding their own business, if they dont give you a producer they have to fill out acres of paper work , the producer is the justification.
what you need to do is
write to the chief constable and complain, if your situation, ie you arent cheating on your mmissus allows you too, they will take the complaint seriously , they have to, then tell them you are aware that the producer which has cost you several hours of your time was given purely as justification for the stop,
you will then get several letters from different ranks passing the book, eventually you will most likeley get an apology for the way you have been treated ,
the main point is the time they spend sorting your comp-laint out and the fact they will know you realise the game with the producer will cause them to stop and think their policy.
Im speaking from experience here , and had the full agreement of staffs finest when i told them what i thought had gone on.
the police do not need a reason to "stop" you if they give you a producer, dont let them abuse that privalidge
staggy
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Take care at the well known location in been pulled twice recently in as many weeks late at night by police,conversation goes down the usual route...what are doing here late at night,on your own etc etc..ended up getting a producer both times.(make sure your cars whiter than white..any excuse for these arseholes...)and warning about a letter going to my own address telling me where I was on a certain night etc...well thanks guys,very caring..but i dont have Alzheimers..funny thing is.....they didnt seem to want to tackle the thirty odd Gypsies now descended on the site,and I suppose as a taxpayer,Ill be saddled with bill to clean up after these parasites have left....Glad to see the police have solved all proper crime tho'....Not !!!!!!

It just goes to show that money is now the only motivation for the police (which can only come from a higher level), the reasoning behind it is they think people have a lot to lose, which many of us have! They know for a fact that the last thing any guy would want is a letter to there home address. With the gypsies they have no fixed address, just move on etc etc,
The majority of dogging (unless you count the extremely well used sites) happens after dark, when joe public is in bed, even sites like this advocate good practice e.g no litter etc etc.
It seems to have been bought to the attention of the public by a desperate british press, that shows little concern for real news, such as millions are dying every day. And now everyone has to jump on the bandwagon to stamp out this new threat to eveyday people!!
As Im not sleeping very well at the moment (the back problem) we went for a drive in the middle of the night and went past this place. I dont think there will be any problem with the police stopping you, as there is no room to get on the car park :shock:
It is packed solid with Gypsey caravans, no room to park up!
But going back to the police issue, we know of quite a few guys who have had producers/letters from this place. We used to use it very regularly but not anymore, too many police and boy racers, busier than a town centre, but not with doggers wink We just need to find somewhere else to frequent instead lol
I'm not sure the idea of complaining to the police is a good one, although we all know what the situation is. Strictly, if you are driving or in charge of a car, they have the right to stop you to check your docoments or issue a "producer". I know someone who was given a ticket for having a faulty light. When he pointed out that the police car also had a light out, and suggested they call it quits, the ticket was not withdrawn. He wrote a letter of complaint and subsequently got stopped about 6 times further by different PCs over the next few weeks. He complained about this but was told it was just coincidence and his bad luck that different officers had stopped him and that it would only be harassment if the same Pc had stopped him repeatedly!
I think the better approach, if asked what you are doing at a certain place is to politely avoid answering by asking if the Pcs suspect you to be committing an offence and, if so, what. Then take the producer politely on the chin.
Ther overall moral here is that which has been said many times before. We must ensure that our activities do not give any cause for complaint, even by Mr Sad Sexstarved of Surrey (sorry no insult to you good Surrey people, just finishing off the alliteration!).
With ASBOs being issued for all manner of behaviour that "the authorities" disapprove of, and more than 2 kids being unable to meet on the streets because Plod has decreed a dispersal order in the area, I do worry that ABOS could be viewed as a way of getting at us if we are too "in your face", noisy, littering etc. And Plod would love it. Hours spent in warm cars followed by interviews with nice people and hours more preparing reports, statements etc. Think how many muggers you could avoid having to tackle whilst talking to a civilised dogger instead.
So, take care, be sensible and think about those who may follow where you have been.
As Im not sleeping very well at the moment (the back problem)
lol Its those kinky boots Naughty get rid of em :cry: and could you send them my way in the process :lol:
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As Im not sleeping very well at the moment (the back problem)
lol Its those kinky boots Naughty get rid of em :cry: and could you send them my way in the process :lol:

come and collect them wink
:shock: Wow might just do that Naughty. :shock:
Might have a bit of trouble pulling them off, we could always just leave them on redface wink
I trundled over to the aforementioned gypsy site last week and was quite surprised to see so many there. I certainly won't be going back to that place again in a hurry.
Note to NWC - the last time I was involved in any kind of fun there was when i met you two there!
I had stopped quite near to the site as there is a nearby car dealers. A man with an Irish accent who was walking along asked me for directions and a lift into a nearby town! Only when I went on to the site and saw the caravans did I realise he must've been a traveller!
With this particular North West location out of bounds and the closure of the spot near to Warrington last year - I really am starting to wonder if dogging is worthwhile.
It seems highly inlikely that you ever meet people on the off chance - when you do it is usually couples who are unaware of dogging etiquette and are simply looking for fun without attention. That leaves pre-arranged meets with people on this site - and the 'beauty contests' that us single males have to go through to draw attention!!
NWC - let me know if you find the holy grail of a nice quiet dogging spot where the police don't go and where single males are welcome!! Hmmm, now there's an idea for one of those Carlsgberg ads........