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I was out last night.... very attractive young couple in car come in. I let them settle in. Other doggers are constanlty driving around and pulling right up next to them. They get bored and drive off. This keeps on for about an hour or more. The other doggers eventually all get bored and drive off. I sit there for a while just relaxing and then I get out of my car just to have a bit of a stroll about and kick some stones about. Just chiling really. I try not to harass couples in cars because I think they'll normally make it clear if they're interested. This couple flashes their lights, bearing in mind that i'm the only dogger about, I wait assuming that they'll open their window if anything interesting is going to happen. They start their engine and drive around so that they're shining their lights right at me then they move off to another bit of the car park.
I assume that they want me to watch and this is where it gets confusing. I stroll about and the guy opens his window and I have a quick chat to them. It is a very fit young woman, got to be about sexiest long legs you'll ever see. She's half stting on the drivers seat next to her boyfriend who's your standard skinny racer boy. She's got her skirt hitched up and they're are blatantly about to fuck about. If they are then I definetly want to watch so I ask him if he minds if I stick about and he says "No, can you go away please". I said fair enough so I walk away and keep my distance. I hang about for a bit next to my car and they really start to get it on. This girls legs are being pushed very wide and he's really fucking her. She is moaning and groaning and kicking him deeper into her. Very horny scene. Get's me going just thinking about it. Well I think I'll get a bit of a closer look (I know... I Know... He told me to go away) but you'd have to have a hell of a lot of self control to stay away from this one. They're really fucking going for it at this point. The girl I'm fairly sure spots me and they keep fucking. She then reaches out with her legs and kicks on the hazards with her toes. Then turns them off again. They keep going again. I'm fairly close to their car but a few metres away at this point then she reaches out with her feet again and turns on the hazards. THen she turns them off again. They carry on fucking.... I think they're both aware that im watching from quite close now. I think he's too deep into her to really give a fuck hat I'm doing and who can blame him really. He makes one big thrust and then explodes inside her. There's a few seconds, then he reaches around and thumps on the horn in a fairly pissed off looking manner. Shows over and I head off.
What confusing signals huh? She was quite clearly up for being watched and I think he just wanted to be seen to be having none of it but then I wonder why someone would turn up to a well known doggin site for private sex. Girl wants to be watched, bloke doesn't. I don't know what I'm supposed to do so I do the only thing a man can do in that situation...... Enjoy.
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"No, can you go away please"..

Forgive me for being stupid, but whats confusing about the word NO !!
THey may not have known that place was a dogging spot, and after all, they are just as must able to enjoy themselves as doggers, we dont own these places. As for the hazards, its so easy to knock a switch when your at it, I think it was your mind trying to justify your intrusive peeping that made you think she was up for it.
My advice, next time some one says NO, take heed before its no longer the horn he hits!
The hazard lights weren't an accident. She put them ON on purpose thats for definete. She was friendly when we were talking and gave the impression that she wanted to be watched. I think the bloke was just puffing his chest up. The signals themselves weren't confusing: She wanted to be watched, He didn't. WHat was confusing was that they conflicted.
I'm sorry but if they say no thanks...then i think you asking for trouble by getting in close. You have to respect others wishes.....hazard lights ..interior lights can all be confusing...but the word no means keep away.....
lucky he only thumped steering wheel
If it is a couple you are watching, no means no whether it comes from the guy or the girl. I'd say they were taking the piss out of you cos they didn't want to get aggressive with you and risk spoiling their own night. I think you were out of order for sticking around where you obviously weren't wanted. I hope the next couple you do the same thing to aren't so polite. People like you give single guys a bad name.
I'm bored.
If people want to be moral, I suggest they go to church.
Doggers used to be people who watched others having sex , whether or not they wanted it.
Now they're all moral crusaders who police the carparks of England, Scotland and wales. Alert to the possible infringements of the various criminal law and sexual offences acts.
Why didn't you just point out to them that if they continued having sex near you, you would have no choice but to make a complaint to the local constabulary about it ?
The phrase "a bunch of clowns" comes to mind.
Modern "doggers" arrange their "meets" by inet, then first go for a meal with the couple before going to a carpark, where the couple engage in sexual acts together before the female gives all the guys a bj then allows them the priviledge of penetrative sex before wishing them all a safe journey home.
So, why don't you all just piss-off out the carparks and use a travelodge ?
Or just stay in with the wife and kids ?
As I said, I'm bored with carparks and laybys full of fuckwits who couldn't dogg their way out of a portaloo.
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As I said, I'm bored with carparks and laybys full of fuckwits who couldn't dogg their way out of a portaloo.

Well, I dont know about anyone else, but tryinh to dogg in a stinky portaloo dont really do it for me ! As fo being bored, the general jist of jomu's reply is 'to hell with everything, I am going to watch'
The origins of doggin are not in question, What is, however, is Mr Bens reaction to what he witnessed. Had he stayed by his car and observed with no contact and this couple got to it, good luck to Mr Ben, he got a show. However, He raised the stakes, got a refusual and still stayed around. He then gets a mixed reaction and cant understand it.
Normal sane people do not need to read threads to relise NO means NO, and I hope that not one member would ever force the situation. Doggin may have originated as peeping, but things change, and so has doggin. its called evolution, changes with the times. Back in the victorian times, it was a husbands right to have sex with his wife when ever he wanted, I am sure no one would disagree that was wrong and hence today that is .
They say all life on earth orginated from a green slimey goo..... life too has progressed for most life forms, but seems there may still be some slime around.
Yep, loads of slime about.
Mainly on the tissues left strewn about the sites...not to mention the used rubbers...which
VERY FEW bother to clean-up.
As for the morality....no, dogging hasn't changed, it's just that quite a few of you are liars and say anything to get a shag.
Fortunately, the couples are no longer about to hear the comments afterwards.
Dogging is watching. End of comment. The rest is just sex with anyone about, and sod the wife at home.
Oh, and to the guy in the green nissan at the A6 site....the guy in the car told me that you informed them that I am (not) HIV positive.....I think that was a bit over the top...I can stand the usual "I know a quiet place mate, this place is full of queers" method of getting a solo show....but lying is over the top.
We will meet soon. (and I still got more than you did) (shithead)(he also told me you use this site)
Sorry Fella No means No, no matter if you just wanna watch or not. We try to drop polite hints but sooner or later a steel steeringwheel lock round some ones head might just make a point! You cannot go out with an attitude that just because someone turns up it's fair game for anyone or you may soon find a lepper will be enjoying more than you and some prat starts off malicious rumours. Most of the pests at sites we go to are well known and watching them leaves you in no doubt they are just that, so they might as well save their time and fuel and stay at home.
Mixed signals or no mixed signals, if someone asked us to leave them alone, we would.
End of Story.
This is boring. Most couples who don't want to be watched drive away when there's anyone about, in fact they all do.
They certainly don't carry-on with someone wandering about.
Maybe they were waiting for you to get your dick out, and then report you for exposure ?
There are a lot of young couples about now flashing lights and then having a laugh when anyone goes near them, the price of publicity.
Anyway, take heart...it was almost certainly a set-up....just be happy you didn't fall for it.
Now, the sticky point....since you were specifically told "no", when you asked to watch....you should have gone away, in which case they would probably have driven nearer you....
I would also like to point-out that the sexual offences act 2003 makes it a serious sexual offence to watch, without their knowledge, for your sexual gratification, anyone having sex. If you're watching someone WITH their consent and someone SEES them and complains, then you're going to be done as well. I say this just to make everyone happy.
I should also like to point-out, with my greater knowledge of the game (giggle), that many couples wanting to be watched no longer flash any lights.....I've been watching couples shagging, WITH their knowledge (standing by the car) while LOADS of "DOGGERS" have been on the other side of the car parks chatting away about their "experiences"...
I've been in a car park in a wood, and watched the dummies driving around while two law have been taking their plates...only last week...but then, I tend to park up and walk about....I don't sit in the car all night...
Look on the bright side mate....while the others are driving and farting in their motors, you carry-on walking and talking....it'll pay dividends...and if all you get is told to piss-off....you're quids in...at the end of the day...sitting in your motor gets you a sore arse....let the other plops sit in their cars..
This is boring. Most couples who don't want to be watched drive away when there's anyone about, in fact they all do.
They certainly don't carry-on with someone wandering about.
Not quite true sometimes we've had our plans messed up by a guy or group of guys and played a game of "bored" with them
ie: who goes away first biggrin
Yes we do occasionally win, point being we as a couple belong to no one or group of doggers and for guys to assume they "get in first" and take over eveything just won't work. We play when we are ready, run at our pace and if nothing else at least leave folk entertained.