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Just wondering if its still worth going out ??!
Nope, its not dead
no its not!! we agree lol but used to think so till all this bloody hot weather brought everyone out again!!
think the futre is prearanged meets ,well thats what we do now ,most known places are swamped with racers,and as we speak the new single males who are looking to try the scene are askingthis question ,think before posting now boys do some research and look through the advice pages and dogging section to get some info and how to go on and it will make your chances better and read peoples adds and get to know what couples are looking for,we take the piss but do give advice to,just the other day explained this to a single ,we thought he was taking it in then bang asked us withing reading what we after "ya fancy a f@@k tonight" then goes does a twist post about not getting a meet,any no is the answer its just better to plan ,well for us yes but horses for courses . lol
Hi thanks for the reply, I am not a complete novice allthough I wouldnt call myself a pro either ! but I do understand about things having to be more pre-arranged but it just proves hard to try and get across to couples that you are a genuine guy and not a toss pot or timewaster.
Will just have to keep trying !........
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Hi thanks for the reply, I am not a complete novice allthough I wouldnt call myself a pro either ! but I do understand about things having to be more pre-arranged but it just proves hard to try and get across to couples that you are a genuine guy and not a toss pot or timewaster.
Will just have to keep trying !........

some couples want pre-arranged, as do some guys..the couples, and doggers that want to do it the traditionsal way, just do..they ain't here to state their case wink i've no idea what the scene is like in your area..so won't presume to comment..however, here in norfolk, the traditional dogging is much in evidence, something seldom reflected on the dogging boards of various websites..
there is a big difference between arranged and traditional on a mental level..some couples can criss cross the divide with ease, in the same way some swingers can enjoy both the club scene, and the carpark scenario..for many however, going down the arranged route removes most of the point..its too much of a compramise..to say "arranged is the way forwards" is a statement that will hold true for a percentage only :wink: as said before, most couples using the net for dogging, do so to arrange, out of those, many are looking for couple only..it gives an unbalanced picture..for various reasons, and there are more than just the "boy racer" issue :wink: some couples will decide spontaneous isn't for them, fine..if the state of play in the bigger arenas isn't for them, one of four things will happen..they'll give up, they'll do the clubs, they'll go arranged or they'll retreat to the sanctuary of the smaller unadvertised carparks...we're having fun with one of those options ourselves :wink:
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Hi thanks for the reply, I am not a complete novice allthough I wouldnt call myself a pro either ! but I do understand about things having to be more pre-arranged but it just proves hard to try and get across to couples that you are a genuine guy and not a toss pot or timewaster.
Will just have to keep trying !........

some couples want pre-arranged, as do some guys..the couples, and doggers that want to do it the traditionsal way, just do..they ain't here to state their case wink i've no idea what the scene is like in your area..so won't presume to comment..however, here in norfolk, the traditional dogging is much in evidence, something seldom reflected on the dogging boards of various websites..
there is a big difference between arranged and traditional on a mental level..some couples can criss cross the divide with ease, in the same way some swingers can
enjoy both the club scene, and the carpark scenario..for many however, going down the arranged route removes most of the point..its too much of a compramise..to say "arranged is the way forwards" is a statement thast will hold true for a percentage only :wink:
Hi Dirty
Do you think that people who are more into improv are being scared into a meet, we ourselves are coming round to the idea of a meet, due to the fact that if you visit more unknow sites there is usually nobody there, and if you visit the well know one's there's so many people we could imagine it turns into a bit of a circus , who do you two deal with situations confused: or are we reading to much into it :?:
hiya..its the old dilema isn't it? big, well known venues are too "in yer face" whilst the little niches are devoid of dogger activity, most of the time..we recognise that..we've had some success with encouraging doggers to message us with details of carparks that they use, and on which nights...we don't tell them anything about ourselves, nor promise we'll visit on any given night..they take their chances..
we are lucky, in that a few of the carparks we use, have become a "fallout zone" for serious contenders that just got fed up with the shag circus..the lonely nights happen, but we are content with that..when the action arrives, either by way of couple or dogger..the quality is invairably better lol
dunno if you followed our post where we diverted, just for fun, into the world of pre arranged? we invited six fellas, out of which, one turned up :lol: ok, so we were unlucky.. :lol: the fella that did turn up was great company, but it was clear from the start, he was a real dogger as opposed to a cyber typer anyway, so his turn out was no real surprise..
regarding the smaller venues, an important difference for us, is this..doggers go out for one of two reasons, with a little blurring at the edges..one is primarily for mental stimulation, the other, sexual gratification..with the small venues we use, shows are the main deal...in fact, we've yet to see a woman wind down the window, or open the door to suck her vouyers off :lol: quite a contrast to the main sites, where gangbangs and multiple involvement are almost mandatory :lol:
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dunno if you followed our post where we diverted, just for fun, into the world of pre arranged? we invited six fellas, out of which, one turned up lol ok, so we were unlucky.. :lol:
na dont agree dd think it was them who was unlucky there loss
Like you say it's a dilema really, even if you do go down the pre-arranged is that person or persons going to be right confused: , will they respect your boundries, :?: how will it feel to have someone looking at you real near:?: If you have a real strong fantasy and both of you agree should you just go for :?: our thinking is that at least we will sort of control it, but can understand that it could wreck the experience, we have been watched before, but not by an experience dogger, if that makes sense :?: so many :?: but does anyone have the answer :?: The reason we started was to get caught, now that seems to be wearing, don't get me wrong we still have fun, but you always have one eye open in anticipation
ahh, thanks northeastcoupleuk xxx..i guess the prospect of seeing a show was more enticing whilst sat at the pc screen, than it was at the time of reckoning lol :lol:
hotcoupleincar...you are on a journey of sexual discovery, thats exciting..some couples turn to swinging, or dogging in order to lift an ailing relationship..that works for a short time, then the void rears it's head once again, only this time, tinged with emotional strife..when the relationship consequently implodes, the agony aunts leap in with their assertions that dogging, or swinging were the cause, not merely a symptom..
with you guys..i feel the picture is one similar to our's, silky and g's, naughty wigans, shad's and a host of others here...enjoy the bond and security you evidently enjoy in your relationship..whatever you try, whatever you do..matters note of caution regarding fantasy however, would be this.. beware of chasing the thrill, because its a fun servant, but an unforgiving master..fantasy is all about exciting the mind, its not something i do myself :lol: but i expect,..at a level, its safe, and fun..but there is always a price, and the excitement turns to boredom (lack of excitement) most of us will be aware of this natural flipside..but for others, the downer is seen as something they have to climb out of, rather than weather..constantly reaching for a stronger fix can have dire consequences...right, i need a whisky :lol:
for us, dogging isn't about excitement or living out of fantasy as such..if it gets arousing, then we deal with it, either there, or soon after, upon arriving home..if we get that far..we like the "actuality" of dogging..we don't play out scripted scenarios in our minds beforhand, consequently our nights are never dissapointing, as we've never put a yardstick up as a gauge of what it "ought to have been" and other than on the forum, we don't much discuss previous encounters in order to get ourselves all horny :lol: :lol: we'll often talk about the comical aspects, but for always of the moment..its probably the bigger part of not going arranged for us..you might then ask, "well, if it ain't something you think about beforehand, what makes you go out, whats the motivation"? well, again, its just often a snap decision, and more often one made by mrs dirty :lol: sometimes work scheduals dictate when we can go, and in that case, there might be a little advanced anticipation, but more often it'll be an escape from the constraints and restrictions of our working lives, and in that, arranging an appointment would be the opposite of the freedom we're seeking :lol:
that sermon wasn't aimed at you hotcouple, or anyone else on this thread..just me going into silly mode again redface :cry: :lol:
think its the old adage that its "each to their own" again, we doggers are a complex bunch, we prefer pre - arranged meets as i think the emphasis of having some control over the situation suits us but we dont knock the "ye olde style doggers" like DD!! even if they go out dogging in a horse and cart lol!!
we do prefer cpls however, as for a dogging cpl with a bi fem, we get more out of meets!! We do feel however that in the NE the scene has gotten swamped with ppl who seem intent on ruining dogging either for their own amusement (boy racers etc) or through lack of understanding (turn up at dogging site im bound to get a quick easy and sneaky shag)!! these are the ppl that anoy us.
if there were more genuine guys who could keep to the boundaries and not push there luck, we would definately be dogging with them, but lets face it, how many single guys appear genuine at first then say, "so can i f**k ur lass tonight" like ne cpl uk mentioned earlier! its easy to pretend ur genuine and will not push the boundaries but in the past we have found it a different story on the odd occasion that we met single males! always ends up with something along the lines of "am i ok to get a blowjob/ can i shag her iv got a johny etc etc etc!!
i know we are moaning on in this thread but we are quite passionate about dogging and over the 2 yrs we have been dogging have had some really good cpls meets and some really shi*ty single guy or "known site" meets. We can only comment on our experiences and hence our negative attitude to afore mentioned single guys and known sites!! :shock:
It seems to me that dogging has gone underground, and you cant blame couples for that, if i was to go dogging with my partner to a recognised dogging place i would be very weary of loads of boy racers turning up just to take the urine, ive only had one dogging experiance, that was pre-arranged and very well organised, i have one question though for hardened dogging couples, do you guys tend to invite the same people back, or is it a random thing and you just chance your hand?
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It seems to me that dogging has gone underground, and you cant blame couples for that

hmm, i'm not sure that its gone underground, its just that some couples, and guys, ourselves included have just shunned what we'd describe as the dogging circus..at most mainstream carparks, thats just whats its our local, you could term the whole thing as a swinging party extravaganza, and there is nothing there to excite us lol i'm not knocking it :lol: much of it is regular, often its predictable..it can be, and evidently is loads of fun with some great people..but it simply isn't what we seek from the game..never was..for us, dogging is about being "dogged" :shock: :lol:
its very simple..drive into a carpark, as and when we want..by car or cart! :shock: :lol: (cheeky sods) wink :lol: ..we don't "invite" by signal, as even that implies something other than the caught in the act scenario we seek..if the guys are wary, anxious even, then all the better..it is the "old way" but it'll be around long after the carpark carnival of today's mainstream dogging scene has been resigned to "history of british perversion" books :lol: that scene is already systematically collapsing under its own weight in many areas...Norfolk's backward status is it's dogging saviour, nine couples out at our local last night :wink: lots of lovely people, having lots of fun, and power to them..but we desire something much more sutle..out of the top five most erotic dogging moments we've seen..four of them would have been in the small carparks..its mental stimulation, whereas much of dogging is now about sexual gratification, and with that, comes much of the frustration and attitude we see today..
I have been hanging back from commenting on what is an excellent thread, mainly because I feel a bit of a 'turn-coat'.
We have always gone down the route of 'spur of the minute' dogging rather than advertising something. Two reasons for this, one - we feel that by advertising it, you are taking away the sponenatay (SP), it is becoming contrived and unnatural, and more of an outdoor swinging experience, and two, from our limited experience of arranging meets (only done this twice very early on in our time on here) we felt the guys expected more if it was pre-arranged, rather than if you just pull into a car park and did your stuff.
However, that all said, we have been talking about going over to the pre-arranged stuff. Mainly because the usual sites we visit are now full of boy racers, full of guys/girls who we actually know (from here and with them coming over and talking to us) and because of the numerous guys who just turn up cause their mate told them about it and they wondered if we (me) fancied a shag :shock:
We are thinking of possibly trying the pre-arranged thing, trying a few places which are not the 'normal' dogging locations, but with a message on here saying voyers only. We would arrange to meet at a certain time, we would arrive earlier and hopefully be nicely settled before anyone attended. We would 'hopefully' have more control over who came along.
But this is all an 'ideal world' fantasy and as others have said before, there is always the issue of will they actually turn up? Will they be the nice genuine guy they described themselves to be? Will they be voyers, or have they just agreed to that to get an invite and really do expect to get a shag? I dont know the answers to these questions, and probably wont until we try it. But then again, every meet would be different. How many do we invite, what will the 'drop out' rate be like?
So, I dont have any answers, just loads of questions. Pre-arranged is something we are going to try at some stage this summer, but one thing I can say is dont give up on the 'traditional' dogging, come winter, when the kids are back home playing on their PS2's and the guys who fancied a change, are back home watching the box with their misses, we will be out, having loads of fun in some car park or other, knowing that only the genuine, respectful doggers seem to brave the icy winter nights wink
in our very limited experience naughty...if you want five watchers, invite thirty lol the thing for us, is this...many couples that look to dogging as a fun erotic pastime, do so through having been "caught in the act" in situations unrelated to the accepted "scene"..many guys that are looking for a vouyeur experience, have had situations in their past where they have stumbled upon, quite accidently, a couple having sex or making love..the feelings they felt, were powerfull enough for them to seek out the experience, only this time, in the consentual world of dogging..
in its basic form, the one that we are involved in..the scenario is as close to that "accidental encounter" as possible...without dwelling too much on the "causing offence" aspect of exhibitionism in non established carparks :lol: our game is very much back to bare roots..all the arranged stuff is great, not without its problems, but non the less, a very valid option..but a plant that is modified in order to look perfect, often loses much of its fragrance along the way..we're just more into cottage gardening than minimalist crisp clean forms :lol: :lol:..two of the best "shows" we ever saw, were by couples that had no intentions of being seen :lol: but having been spotted, were evidently aroused by the experience..maybe those couples are now regular showcouples on the dogging circuit, but one things for sure, the laughter and general good humour from the accidental exhibitionists spoke volumes..the key being, carparks are public spaces..which is how it all started i guess :lol: i ain't really talking much sence this morning am i? even i can't make out what the fuck i'm on about redface
interestingly "the master" has, during his explorations, been witness to many similar situations..often the couple want privacy, obviously..in such circumstances, they'll stop..my mate "truckstop" once got floored by a disgruntled partner :lol: but surprisingly often, not only do the couple find their exposure, funny, or exciting..but actually return the following week, at the same time, in order to play up to their audience..maybe i already told the story, where over a period of several weeks, the "master" witnessed a couple's coy fumblings in their darkened interior advance to a full, over the bonnet shag-show..on each occassion, he was the only vouyeur :lol: and to this day, we can virtually predict "shows" at various carparks, at certain times that are a result of such oppertune encounters :lol:
in contrast..last week we gave a couple off this doggingboard, directions to one of our more productive carparks..this couple were looking for partner swaps as the main agenda for their visit..last night i recieved many text messages from "the master" ..the couple were there, and even he was surprised by the amount of activity in the forest :lol: he mentioned nine couples, some turn out eh? even later, he added two more to that list..i'm sure our visitors had fun, i hope so anyway..its the other end of the scale from what we seek..but who's to knock it? that was one helluva night, and there were couples going off with couples, and guys throughout the night..is that "dogging"? dunno, but sounded like fun, if thats yer thing eh? :lol:
jomu said something quite interesting to a newbie couple last week..well, jomu says something interesting most of the time, but you know what i mean? :lol: he suggested to the couple, in reply to their asking him if their show had been good, that they didn't pander to what they felt their audience wanted..its something we've been looking at ourselves, for a while now..most of the real erotic stuff we see, are made erotic by virtue of the experience being "real"..ok, we've done the big shows, where our whole session has been choreographed for maximum audience appeal, and the clothes mrs dirty has chosen, are those which might excite the senses :lol: thats all fine in those big carpark situations, and the clothing aspect continues to be important..however, frequently now, our shagging is as it would be if nobody were there to witness it..our photographs suggest something somewhat different, but of course, they are done as a fun diversion only..i think our shows were just too "showy" :lol:
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if there were more genuine guys who could keep to the boundaries and not push there luck, we would definately be dogging with them, but lets face it, how many single guys appear genuine at first then say, "so can i f**k ur lass tonight" like ne cpl uk mentioned earlier! its easy to pretend ur genuine and will not push the boundaries but in the past we have found it a different story on the odd occasion that we met single males! always ends up with something along the lines of "am i ok to get a blowjob/ can i shag her iv got a johny etc etc etc!!
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yer tell me about it ,had that to,going off dogging a tad we go to our local club and a cpl we used to go with ,mrs n always played with ,ill call her mrs x. any having a crack we all wanted something a bit different so,we put a add on lmu,asking for a single male who would put his money where his mouth was,and come to the club,to WATCH a fem to fem show with toys the lots,was cleary stated it was a hands off situation ,it was watch and if he wanted a tug ok with the girls,eny way after lots of emails we whittles them down to the one the girls wanted ,we met at the club explained once again the rules he was very happy with that,up the apples and pears a good night he had a good 2 hour show ,he was well over the moon ,remember he knew what we were a few weeks later we got a email from the guy asking if he could meet mme mrs on her own for the works lol yup some spoil it .back on track we have had emails to our dogging add asking "well why this age why not me,will i get more than stated in your adds if i am good" ffs its here in b/w what we want dont knock us for it ,we dont knock any ones taste each to there own,swinging dogging whatever we all here for same thing just different tastes ,there are gen people out there ,some say the single fem is hard to find we have met a few ,but sometimes its the same when we look for a single watcher ,the gen ones who comes into what we are looking for spoil it asking for more ,any way lol the search continues lol
The scene is dead up here in Aberdeen,we have met a couple of couples on here and have met up with them and had some good racers meet down the beach front and seem to leave us well alone biggrin
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Hi thanks for the reply, I am not a complete novice allthough I wouldnt call myself a pro either ! but I do understand about things having to be more pre-arranged but it just proves hard to try and get across to couples that you are a genuine guy and not a toss pot or timewaster.
Will just have to keep trying !........

some couples want pre-arranged, as do some guys..the couples, and doggers that want to do it the traditionsal way, just do..they ain't here to state their case wink i've no idea what the scene is like in your area..so won't presume to comment..however, here in norfolk, the traditional dogging is much in evidence, something seldom reflected on the dogging boards of various websites..
there is a big difference between arranged and traditional on a mental level..some couples can criss cross the divide with ease, in the same way some swingers can enjoy both the club scene, and the carpark scenario..for many however, going down the arranged route removes most of the point..its too much of a compramise..to say "arranged is the way forwards" is a statement that will hold true for a percentage only :wink: as said before, most couples using the net for dogging, do so to arrange, out of those, many are looking for couple only..it gives an unbalanced picture..for various reasons, and there are more than just the "boy racer" issue :wink: some couples will decide spontaneous isn't for them, fine..if the state of play in the bigger arenas isn't for them, one of four things will happen..they'll give up, they'll do the clubs, they'll go arranged or they'll retreat to the sanctuary of the smaller unadvertised carparks...we're having fun with one of those options ourselves :wink:
HERE and stating their case ! :-) xx
At the risk of sounding a bit glib ( but then dont I always) if you are scared of heights dont go parascending if you are scared of water dont go scuba diving if you are afraid of large crowds dont buy a season ticket to Chelsea and if you are scared of doggers dont go dogging . There is nothing in those carparks that hasnt always been there to one degree or another , its just peoples expectations and perceptions that bring them stress and dissapointment .
If it causes anyone such fear and trepidation they should just try something else they are comfortable with .
Peace
think thats a bit harsh silk and big G, normally read through ur threads and seem like sound ppl but dont agree with ur thread, some people are new to "the scene" and like to dip there toe in the water and sound it out before diving right in!!
dont wanna sound like we are spoiling for an argument but best to consider how you felt when u guys first started out in the swinging scene, no offence meant or taken guys but a little more consideration is always better we think!!
Well now I didnt mean to be harsh ( youd have known LOL ) its just that its been discussed and eloquently answered so many times I was being as succint as I could . Truth is there are hundreds of people go dogging and then come back on here and moan and whinge because it wasnt what they expected - and thats because they have completely the wrong idea about what it is . I was trying to clarify for them . If they want to meet in safe predictable environments and have no fears or worries then there are any number of ways to do it . the point I was trying to make ( apaprently clumsily ) was that you shouldnt choose an activity which has as some of its integral parts things that you know disturb you - you should simply do something you are happy with . Failing that if you dont like the way something goes down , then dont try and change it to suit your needs , simply do somethng else . Thats all - it wasnt an aggressive post trust me - I know one when I see one .
Thanks for the comment anyways xx
Peace
thats the part i dont like when you have made contact and already set your rules out ,they know the score then spoil it for them selfs ,had meets aranged then just before ou get a extra email asking"shall i bring a jonny" not so bad if he was thinking of keeping the envirement clean lol
lol yeah, its no good ditching your fat onto the floor, the cows might lick it up and get pregnant :lol: best off taking it home with you and disposing of your bodily fluids properly, in the correct manner as stated by government guidelines. wink
dogging is dead, long live dogging
Tell you what it’s a real hard choice, there’s plenty of fore’s and against, I suppose it’s really an individual decision. Is the fun spoilt confused: or is it just as exciting :?: , Don’t know what to really expect from people, the shocking thing is that couples are actually saying they are having trouble arranging a meet, talk about the tables turning. Think at the moment we are going to go with the Dirtydoggers old fashioned way, but if the right person turns up you never know, like they say it’s the thrill after all (but a meeting could also be classed as a thrill) :? , We where once given the location of some quite unused bits of paradise (well ok car parks) by a friend who told some couples and a few single doggers, so in theory we should have a bit of a chance?. :twisted:
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Well now I didnt mean to be harsh ( youd have known LOL ) its just that its been discussed and eloquently answered so many times I was being as succint as I could . Truth is there are hundreds of people go dogging and then come back on here and moan and whinge because it wasnt what they expected - and thats because they have completely the wrong idea about what it is . I was trying to clarify for them . If they want to meet in safe predictable environments and have no fears or worries then there are any number of ways to do it . the point I was trying to make ( apaprently clumsily ) was that you shouldnt choose an activity which has as some of its integral parts things that you know disturb you - you should simply do something you are happy with . Failing that if you dont like the way something goes down , then dont try and change it to suit your needs , simply do somethng else . Thats all - it wasnt an aggressive post trust me - I know one when I see one .
Thanks for the comment anyways xx
Peace

ooow silk i feel real bad now redface
i know that there are lots of moaning tw*ts come online and thoroughly agree with ur comment that lot of ppl think dogging is something that it isn't, we are sometimes one of the ones who do the moaning lol, but i think everybody has there own little idea of what they want/expect from a meet, be it dogging or whatever!!
when we started out we didnt know a great deal of what to expect and in some ways we had little idea of what we actually wanted :shock: !!
We were a little niave and through time. lots of waiting around and therefore ample time to discuss (and a good few no shows and the odd unpredictable dogger) we have gone the journey and discovered what suits us and what we want from our little dabble into this crazy world we call swinging.
i think that unless somebody is being a danger to others or deviated, we all have our place in the tapestry that is "the scene" and im sure that for every whim or desire (no matter how warped some of us may find it) there are those that will cater for it.
suppose what im trying to say is sorry if you misinterpreted my interpretation of what you were trying to interpret, if you can interpret that lol :shock: :shock: rolleyes my head hurts im going for a lie down,
big hugs and olive branches,
steanrachy..x