We have just come back from a trip to Thetford forest and madam is not a happy bunny nor am I some do'd and don't Gentlemen. ! dont drive past three times in 90 sewcs on full beam shining into car move your car just 60 yards and drive almost into my car get out and walk. remember the lady is there for her enjoyment not for yours only Talk to us first we are human manners get you something. oh also creeping up peering in can frighten ladies if its their first time. If someone is sstanding by a car talking just wait to be invited Not to much is it or is the wife waiting for you why not bring her and be on the receiving end UPDATE Just called in 19th May at 2 mile bottom when we left having spoken to no one and giving no idication we left to go home and were followed by 5 cars on a cross country route and were followed for a good few miles
Excellent comments, couldnt be any more true, all the manners have gone im afraid and they wonder why us cpls dont go out anymore, and like you said respect the lady if it wasnt for them youd get nothing at all, manners cost nothing, make the lady feel special NOT SCARED !!!!
would just like to say good shout had similar situation at a site i took a female friend to the other week and talk about pushy and bad mannered wasn,t the word what happened to all the signals interior lights flash ya brake lights and side lights on and off bring back the good all days
Quote by suck it would just like to say good shout had similar situation at a site i took a female friend to the other week and talk about pushy and bad mannered wasn,t the word what happened to all the signals interior lights flash ya brake lights and side lights on and off bring back the good all days
Know exactly what you mean, and it can be really frightening when the guys get too pushy (especially when there are around 10 of them who just wont take no for an answer and they wonder why you end up driving off)
Quote by Jewlnmart Whilst we agree with most of what's been said we've also witnessed some shocking behaviour from the couples too.
Totally agree Jewlnmart, some very strange new school couples around who totally baffle everyone as to what they want and their manners. However, in what must be nearly 10 years now of outdoor fun we have never encountered what we did the other week. 2 tyres slashed, by kids some may think but no, unfortunately by a dogger who Mrs Scoots turned down due to his lack of manners. This particular dogger has been dogging just as long as we have if not longer. A very sad day when doggers do that to couples.
hope you went back and did that to him what he did to your tyres ? thats just not on at all no wonder the dogging scene is dying ! its about fun and respect !
This topic is the reason that i stopped dogging and now go to the clubs. I am a well built ex military chap who can look after himself and i used to get scared....
slashed tyres???? wtf?? how messed up do you have to be to draw that kind of attention to yourself? at that point even the old bill are gonna side with you as the prat is obviously carrying a blade and 'has' used it.... ffs best advice to any pillocks that have this mentality is get off before you do something incredibly fucking stupid!
The problem is Derby, i think the new style doggers have been attracting plod attention for 3-4 years now. Perhaps it's the rose tinted glasses but the late 90s and early 2000s seemed to be a gentler time. Doggers respected each other and more importantly the couples. There were no pre-concieved ideas and no one expected to be able to do anything other than watch.... You got to know the guys and couples at each spot How i long for those days
i have been dogging some ten years now and just seen a dramatic decline over the last few years i used to enjoy just going out for a few hours and used to get lucky all the time but now i only do arranged meets beacause of this situation of all the idots and pushy people ,unless i,m with a female friend !!!!!!
I have been going out for over 6 years now and over the last 12 months i have not come across a couple that is willing to even speak to me let alone get close enough to be pushy. It seems that if i even park within 50' of them they drive off.... The places i have been going to used to be chocka every night and i made some really nice friends but they all have stopped coming out :0( Are there any nice couples about anymore around Oldham??
We arent talking about manners here, we are talking about preferences. If anyone doesnt like whats happening......................then just stop :-) xx
Quote by funguy500 Perhaps it's the rose tinted glasses but the late 90s and early 2000s seemed to be a gentler time.
They are not tinted - they are hardcore opaque. It may have been the case that in a particular circumstance that doggers respected the female - but NEVER as far as we have experienced. We have been dogging in Livingstone, Sunderland, Derby and Uxbridge over a period of years - and on every occasion there has been clear disrespect. Now... ultimately of course - if you want manners and respect then go to a "Tea and Dance" at a local community centre as opposed to taking your wife to show her cunt off to strangers. We don't anymore, and have not for a long time - nothing to do with manners, though, more to do with danger and damage to the car having had paint thrown over it (luckily we were straight to a carwash within a few mins and after the 3rd time through it was OK).
i'm sorry you have been so unlucky but this is my point. I am going back to the early to mid 90s so some years ago and respect was always shown to all parties. Your paint incident shows just how silly it has got. Theses aren't genuine doggers. It's the same anti-social crowd that gathers anywhere. EVen back then a number of people i met ( all male doggers) had the veiw that"i'm here i have a right to a shag". The same element are now prevalent in the clubs. I've been as a single and a couple so it's not hard to work out how to behave but one guy opened teh door to the couples room in one club, held it open and stood there wanking until somone booted the door closed, busting his nose, his pride and his dick i would imagine.
The tyre slashing has not put us off dogging as such as we love dogging, made us more paranoid though as to who is around our car. Sad times and we agree that the last 3-4 years has seen a steady increase in bad manners. We have found out that we are the third couple in 2 months to have had our tyres slashed. However, there are still good singles and couples out there and people who mess it up for people do normally have a short shelf life as doggers.
we used to go to bolton we just like one guy on us,guy comes up i start to strip then i seem like a magnet as many as 10 come rushing over,star to dress no one goes stat the car and go no fun any more guys dont get the mesage now they used to
I've noticed this too... If i ever get close to a couple and things begin to happen , other guys seem to pop out from everywhere and don't give a t*ss about your fun. Always makes the couple wrap up and drive off ! I have been told by the couple to follow them to another location only to have a convoy behind me that don't get the message.... :sad:
Comes back to the lack of respect in my earlier post. If i saw on eor two guys round a car i would either back off as first come first go or wait to be waved over, i would not spoil somone else's fun. Same with how close you park, i would leave at least 10-15 yds but another moron would park closer, knowing he was blocking my view and scare the couple off. I've had to remonstrate several times over the years.
hi All thanks for the replies Friday night we were just sitting in a car that was totally new the the forest and one used by plain cloth cops blacked out rear windows. Now we like people to talk to us first before Madam will play. perfectly fair. As I say a couple of guys came up and one got his cock out and started wanking that put her off straight away after about 15 minutes she asked him to go away and perhaps he should start by talking to us to be told that that was a dogging area and thats whats done. Bloody good job we were not the fuzz or s worse the press and another dogging area bits the dust
Quote by scoots200 Whilst we agree with most of what's been said we've also witnessed some shocking behaviour from the couples too.
Totally agree Jewlnmart, some very strange new school couples around who totally baffle everyone as to what they want and their manners. However, in what must be nearly 10 years now of outdoor fun we have never encountered what we did the other week. 2 tyres slashed, by kids some may think but no, unfortunately by a dogger who Mrs Scoots turned down due to his lack of manners. This particular dogger has been dogging just as long as we have if not longer. A very sad day when doggers do that to had both drivers side tyre valves opened one night at location in surrey so wen we drove off they were flat all because missus wasn't prepared to do anything for the guys hanging around us for no reason watsoever
will people understand that the whole point of dogging is that couples come out because they are exhibitionists or just like to wtach and be watched but it is their choice!. They can sit there and drink tea all night should they choose. If the lady offers anything above and beyond that then we are very lucky. At a well known spot outside Nottingham one night there must have been 25 blokes just standing around chatting. I pulled in and straight out again so god knows what a couple must have thought. The same is seen on posts on here sometime " single male looking for fun" type adverts who then complain if they don't get a reply after ten minutes ( ok i exagerate a bit there), but you get my drift. It's not a right that you will see anything or do anything.
Well having tyres let down, or worse slashed is of course unacceptable in any situation and I would have to assume that it is very rare since we have been around and about for quite a while and never encountered the like. That said if you go to a dogging site then the idea of manners is a difficult one. For a start off part of the whole lure of dogging to a greater or lesser extent is the very unexpectedness and randomness of the situation and so it should be. Of course there is basic human curtesy involved, and the over reaching one is that if anyone involved (dogger or player) says it isn't working or they want to stop, then it stops. Of course we all have personal preferences and they need to be expressed, after all the strangers you encounter don't know them. You may want one individual at a time watching whereas we may want every window occupied for the show - unless you tell them they wont know that. In the same way as some couples are intimidated by being approached by only one of the doggers present you will see as many complaints that people were disappointed at the response. In our experience nine times out of ten if you just make it known to the parties involved they will accommodate - a brief statement like " just one on the car please guys" will result in the others backing off and hoping for a turn later you will only have to tell a few of em and it will get passed around the others. Similar instructions work for whatever your preferences, and in truth these are every bit as much about 'manners' as the moaning about not getting exactly what you imagined before you set off that night. I don't wanna sound like I am making rules because I have spent many threads explaining that rules are exactly what dogging doesn't need, but I have to say that if what you want is a totally controlled situation , with your choice of individual and to know exactly what to expect for the outcome, then dogging isn't for you. If that's what you want you should just invite someone to your house ( or go to theirs) or if you like a breeze on your bits then arrange something in the garden. Now its a well known fact, although not often discussed or owned up to, that for a few couples part of the thrill of dogging is a power trip. That is to say they like the idea of keeping men waiting and teasing, sometimes taking hours to do anything, or its not unknown for some to drive off after doing nothing at all after hours of teasing and leading people around car-parks. I'm sure you have all seen it doggers even if the culprits wont own up. When I read some posts I cant help but detect a less extreme version of this attitude. There's sometimes a prevailing sense that the couples involved are doing the doggers a favour and that as such the doggers should be on their best behavior in order to 'earn their reward', you will meet some couples with this outlook in all aspects of swinging, but in dogging most of all. We have never seen it that way ourselves, we see doggers as just other people looking for sexual thrills and excitement and they are just as essential in the dogging world as we are , after all there is no exhibitionism without voyeurs. So I reckon its worth giving the guys a bit of help when you express what you want. I'm betting they will be more often accommodating than not, and if they are not then just leave. Peace
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