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Its a shame that some guys get off on such a wrong foot in here , and I for one will admit that when youve been here a while you can maybe get a bit too keen to have a go at a first poster .
Its been said many times in different ways , but wont hurt to say it all again now and then .
If youre new to Swinging Heaven you will be surprised to find , as we were , that it is a very different place to almost all the other forums about swingers you have travelled on the net . Firstly , there actually are a great number of genuine regular swingers here who arent pretending to be couples or ladies , but actually are what they say they are . Also many , in fact the majority of them are friendly and welcoming to newcomers and often intelligent people who like to have conversations about all sorts of things , including , but not exclusively swinging or dogging.
Its an easy mistake to make to come in here and just post a quick and dull note in the hope of a reply , since the chances are that you'll get knocked back or nothing at all , because all the other forums youve tried have been just like that . Most of them are just a long long long list of posts like " 32 male , big cock , at Something or other Carprk seeks blowjob" , and thats what youve grown used to . However Swinging Heaven isnt like that , partly because its very well run and moderated , but mostly because there are actually dogging couples here , who will shoot those posts down in flames and then ignore them until you go away .
Put yourself in their shoes for a second , they get PM's ,e-mails and messages ad-infinitum offering " fit male" " non-pushy" " long stayers" and " heavy cummers" every day , and they can read posts which pretend to be asking advice but actually just mean " tell me where youre showing" all day long at any number of forums . They have all answered patiently- possibly dozens of requests for infomation on sites , etiquette and rules and regulations of behaviour and thats why they dont feel they should have to keep doing it again and again .
The Gods of the forum have wisely put the answers to all such questions in the stickys about behaviour and the dogging sites section that are permanently available for you to read before you post and ask the same questions again .
Its fair to say that if youre too lazy to read the answers to your questions yourself , and want them repeated by a forum member , then the chances are youre selfish and lazy enough to be a rubbish dogger , which is why the couples dont rush into your inbox.
We always give doggers the credit they deserve , and we know that exhibitionists like ourselves cannot exist without voyeurs . You guys are important , and this forum has its fair share of pleasant interesting and funny doggers . Thats even more reason to avoid posting the same old tired questions .
We love to read about your experiences , about your real desires and fantasies about dogging . About the funny things that have happened whilst out dogging , and the events that led you to it in the first place . Even the odd serious post about the dangers , or the moral issues surrounding it . All of the above with the odd completely off topic but entertaining post will ultimately lead to some exchange of views and some sense of who you are , and ultimately to a relationship with the board members . It is that which will lead to you being invited to watch a show , and not just the fact that youre in the area that night .
Come on guys we need good doggers posting , we all cant wait !
Apologies to the successful doggers for revealing your secrets , but a level playing field and all that LOL
G
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Well said!
Good work G :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
yeah i agree well said silk n big g,
being a 'virgin' dogging/swinging couple and new round here too we didnt know what to expect, but we have been given some great advice from the ppl round here and they have made us feel more at ease and gave us more of a clue on what to do (our first time was very dissapointing and we were nearly put off).
now we have regained faith and cant wait to try again. i did make a couple of mistakes on these forums but the kind ppl showed me the way instead of making pointless threads which i apolagise for.i dont want to cause more work for the great mods round here and they do a great job.
thanks to you lot for making a great welcoming place to cum.
2b2h
as you can imagine silk and big g,we agree with all the points you have put much thought into compiing this informative thread,and so,with pleasure,i'll bump it to the top of the page,thus giving the guys here the benefit of your wisdom...
Just this second regestered and was pleased to see your
It is very nice to see that we can get help and positive support on here
keep up the good work
TEZ
Sils and Big G, I am now convinced that you have a very special ability No, not that ability, I mean the ability to read the minds of all the genuine doggers on here.
Excellent advice, very genuine and not overpowering or scarey enough to frighten off any new doggers! Wish something like that had been posted just prior to Mr Naughty and myself joining the forum, it would have definately made our first post a much more enjoyable experience!
Even the people who have been posting or dogging for a what now seem like ages, sometimes need some advice, and I certainly could have done with some this week, when I totally misread a situation and ended up offending a very nice and genuine person from this site. I owe this person a very big apology and will also be sending him a private message saying this, so Steve, if you are reading this post I AM VERY, VERY SORRY.
On a lighter note, 2BIG2HANDLE, haven't you realised, you are now 'old pros' on here (sorry, probably wrong expression, but you know what I mean lol ) and we are now waiting for stories of your little escapades!
Blue,
Very useful post which will be inform the chancers and ill-informed here. Not that I have been any better myself, not setting myself up as white as the driven snow, as I have been in the mentioned group before. There's a preconception with some lads who visit the site, that this is like Pandoras Box - trouble is if you open it there can be an almighty can of woopass opened on you biggrin So if you are saving newbies and the more experienced of this site from the well-trodden path of mistaken ill-judged posts all credit to you.
I have personally really enjoyed using the site for fun in terms of getting a feel for the people who enjoy the lifestyle, information for club visits and more latterly being invited to munches. As a lady or couple visiting the site only someone who is an extreme risk-taker would respond to a 2 line advert without querying who the guy was and seeking more info. Doggers are perceived as risk-takers but I guess by the pure high risk strategy of the past-time the couples are only trying to minimise the risk they are exposed to by asking for in-depth info - it makes perfect sense to me as I used to be involved in Risk Management smile
I am discovering the virtue of being patient, building trust and ultimately meeting people for funtimes with no guilt or danger. So guys be patient, the site members are really friendly here if they are given the chance.
Play safe
andyjohnny
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Blue

Errrr, why are you replying to me... it was Silk and Big G that deserve the credit foir this thread. Have I missed something?
Blue,
Apologies at this time of the year the booze cupboard is a little too full and the old short-term memory (5 secs) goes wonky. So Silk and Big respect where it is due from a guy with the memory of a goldfish at the moment. Just going to swim off behind the coral redface
Play safe
andyjohnny
i think that this needs to be a sticky like jumos post for doggers. Maybe they could be sent out with the confirmation email when you first reg? just an :idea:, i have to lay down now as it hurt a lot. :shock: