Old school dogger in West Mids

29 Jan 2006

Hi,
I'm a one of a disappearing breed, the old school dogger. I believe in being discreet. I watch from a respectable distance, I respond to the couples wishes. I like the couple to be at ease and really enjoying themselves, not tense and slightly anxious. I like other doggers in the vicinity to behave like myself.
I do not race around, from spot to spot expecting to see couples in action immdiately. I do not walk straight up to couples car's with my cock in my hand and press my face against the window, without a clear invitation to do so. I do not grope women through car windows without invitation. I do not expect a bj or full sex.
Dogging should be a sexually exciting and stimulating pastime for all the participants, the dogger, the man, and paritcularly the woman.
If you would like to be treated with respect, fully appreciated and in control, and you are out and about in the West Midlands then please get in touch.

29 Jan 2006

noooo, muffin...your cv, and the sentiments expressed within make wonderfull reading, but, the "old school" never advertise for meets, for they know, that arranged dogging is the very thing that is taking the food from their mouths..every arranged meet is but another nail in the coffin for proper dogging wink

the "dying breed" tag that you apply to yourself is an illusion..there are many old school doggers in the game, but the influx of guys who's social skills couldn't bag them a kiss on the cheek from a distant aunt are swamping them..the blanket of twat, strangling the bigger carparks has merely served to squeeze the real doggers out from under the edges, and in our experience, most of them have sought sanctuary in more productive places, and at more appropiate times.
the old school dogger is a ninja..and a resiliant, enduring force..likewise, dogging couples, well those not of the increasing number looking for "couple only" are similarly adaptable..since taking our game away from the circus, or when the show's over, we are continually surprised at how many of the "dissapearing breed" are now dogging the smaller venues,once considered "dead", and how many couples we have chanced upon along the way.
if you are serious, you'd sell up and move to norfolk lol

look at it this way..when you "old school doggers" all go down the "arranged" route, which is a contradiction of terms anyway...then where does that leave us? you see, we're only protecting our own interests here :lol: thats why we wouldn't ever do "arranged" ourselves, it would be biting the hand that feeds us :lol:

29 Jan 2006

Ok Dirtydoggers, I think you make a fair point. All my favourite locations have been overtaken by the new breed who charge around from point to point, and expect instant gratification. I think arrangements have there place, as one can arrange more discreet locations, but all the other rules can apply. I fear that genuine couples like yourselves, who get real enjoyment out of the "chance" meeting are being driven out of the pass time. All I am trying to do is re-dress the balance back in favour of the old school.
I hope you have lots of success. I'm sure you provide huge enjoyment for East Anglian old school. If I get over to your part of the world I will look out for you. Equally if you are ever in Shropshire let me know, and I will recommend some locations.
x
ps It is really good to have such a thought provoking and articulate reply. Thanks.

29 Jan 2006

you are right muffin mate, there is now't wrong with arranged,and if thats the avenue you wish to explore, we can only wish you well wink

personally, its not anything we'd do, tried it once, and it was just so un-erotic..that was just the waiting, luckilly for us, the fella never turned up lol

rolled his car en-route apparently, ended up in casualty..anyway, a week later he was "up for it again" :lol: rolleyes

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naa, at the time of writing, there are two posts on the board inviting couples back to their houses for some indoor dogging :roll: so they won't get all cold, and have to contend with those nasty men that hang around in carparks :lol: aahhhh. but thats what its coming to muffin, "armchair dogging"..soon the fishermen will be advertising for times that the next carp is going to happen along, save them the hassle of sitting it out on the riverbank :lol: :lol: many of our larger venues are all but empty outside the weekend "happy hours".these days .naa, it'll all go full circle mate,maybe it'll never get right back to what it was, who cares? and there will always be the arranged alternative for swinging couples that don't wan't to club it, or have strangers around the house, sure, but many of the problems discussed about the negitive aspects of the game are just scape goats to justify not going out and waiting, guys and couples alike..i agree with your points about the "fast flange" seeking brigade, and we frequently see the boy racers too..but for us, the party is FAR from over :lol: the point i was making was that we rely on fellas like yourself doing it the hard way,giving us the luxury that our couple status affords us, namely in the option of being able to go out on a whim, come rain or shine and at any time of night :lol: selfish? you betcha :wink: :lol:
anyway, wish you well with it muffin..it wasn't a critisism of your methods...bet you a drink you'll be back doing it the old way before too long though :wink: :lol:
ps, you don't have to worry about us being driven out of the past-time...hell will freeze over before that happens :wink:
the way we now do it is to ask the lads to avail us of little oasis's around the region, and a brief outline timeslot of hours rather than minutes that they can reasonably be expected to be there on certain days of the week..then, we MIGHT visit them, but its not chiselled in stone, far from it, but they take their chances, and if the place is empty when we arrive, then its fair game..we've been dogging for over two years now, age will get us before the idiots do :lol:

29 Jan 2006

Dogging is dying. I blame the internet totally for killing what was an "old school" system. Years ago all doggers in a locality knew each other. They were discreet, courteous, clean & well mannered. They did not crowd in & if a couple said only one then the others backed off. The internet has opened up the secretive game to every idiot, suit, rep & guy who has access to this medium. That , of course, includes the police local councillors (jumped up little tossers & land owners who are all "outraged" by what has been going on for years, quietly & discreetly. Carparks are barriered or policed or full of total idiots. The game has sadly died a quick & painful death. :cry: What a shame. Such memories, such wonderful times. Goodbye cruel world.

29 Jan 2006

the big, advertised venues have, in some cases become over run, thats true..with gatherings of 40 or more cars driving relentlessly in circles, comes police attention, and in some cases, the closure of the carpark..but, that dogging circus scenario, although the one that grabs press headlines, isn't the whole game..if guys wish to stand in carparks under such circumstances, knowing that couples won't stay, then more fool them..if they wish to throw it all in, fine, thats their call..but couples do adapt, we see evidence of that all the time..the game is in a state of constant flux, this notion of hanging on to nostalgia and ideals is just non productive nonsense.
muffin is changing his play, and fair game to him..but many many couples seek their thrill from non organized chance encounters, and the venues away from the mainstream places are increasingly playing host to such things..what that does involve however, is waiting..which surely was what it was about pre internet? the truth is that the majority coming into the game don't want to wait, they'd rather it handed to them on a plate..most of the real doggers don't use the internet anyway, out of 18 couples we know on the circuit, only one does, namely "doggingtwo", and then only for banter, like us..when did you see "singledogger" advertising for fun? he simply doesn't need to, and my mate "the master" doesn't even use a pc..when i laughingly tell him,according to the net "dogging is dead", he just grins, and waits for the punchline lol