I was speaking to a pal at the weekend and he tells me Wisley has really done down hill. Masses of Internet attention and publicised meets have led to swarms of people being there and the Police are really clamping down. They 'raided' the place and took names, addresses and car numbers of everyone there.
The American School is another Surrey/Sussex location that is going the same way. And legally, it's extremely iffy pretending you're just stopping off for a rest there.
I think it's time we all exercised a bit of caution when arranging meets. It's not just doggers that read these pages. The locals stumble across them and so do the Police. Of course, we'd all want to help serious players have fun.
Does everyone think it's best not to announce specific dates and if you want to arrange stuff, do so offlist via email?
Hi Heather,
I think its much wiser to post meet details and the like off-list, although it still wouldn't stop someone joining and posing as genuine but is really just someone to spoil the fun.
It must have been HORRIBLE for those involved to have their names taken. Not so much the couples there, after all they are doing it with each others consent (well unless they are lovers), but the single people, some married like me, with so much to lose.
I am, however, amazed at the number of people who post on here, requesting to be mailed off list for venues, only to receive replies on list stating just when and where stuff is going on. The people replying need to read my carefully.
Another point, though... just what will the police charge these people with? Unless someone actually there, where it was all going on, obejcted and reported what was going on do they have a case?
mac
I think the Police would rather just leave you alone.... but they are forced to act when local residents start complaining. I'm not aware of any actual charges having been made against Doggers but the potential is there for Gross Indecentcy.
I think I would complain too is things reached the point where they appear to have done at Wisley. I gather it's usual to find around 30 cars there at times.
A couple I know were curious. They only just picked up on Dogging and thought they'd drive down to Wisley for a descreet look. They hadn't turned the engine off before 6 blokes approached the car. The girl was petrified and they drove straight off...
Male Doggers I've come across have all been very nice, polite and respected my boundaries... but get a dozen blokes in once place and they naturally want to outbid each other to get closer to potential action.
It's good that we have a list of places where action can be seen and engaged in to inform people who'd like to get into it... but I've heard tales in some places of even car number plates being advertised in meet set ups.
Can't be smart, can it?
The general word I hear on the ground is the Police would really rather catch real villians. Doggers aren't worth the paperwork, and 99 times out of 100 they'll just tell you to sling your hook. And they can only charge you if they catch you in a sexual act.. But this is a public forum as I said before. Flagging up pre-arranged meets is asking for trouble.
Just my two cents...
Well, let's face it, you can't believe what you read no matter where.
Anyone who reads and replies to an ad expecting to meet the "40FF bi blonde who loves oral, swallows and wants cock in 3 places at the same time" (don't write to me)...(and I *did* read a similar ad) should really think several times before replying.
There are several websites that ONLY take couples, by personal reference, to avoid just such a situation (or so I'm told !)...
Lets face it, loads of people meetimg in car parks and woods for free-and-easy sex is a good story to fill a few columns, and while the law DO have better things to do, catching burglars is hard work and they sometimes fight back....and they also don't advertise they are going to blag a place giving the date and time and location....looking at a naked woman struggling to get dressed fast while various males do the same has got to be better than running after some scrote with a steel bar !
Joe Public, basically, hates someone else having the fun he/she hasn't the bottle to try......so they write letters to hacks who log-on to sites and read what, where and who. Big deal. A few weeks ago various local rags wrote stories about various sites...business hasn't been so good for a while !!
As for Wisley....it's been busy for years, even when someone got topped there it only stopped for a few weeks. If you've got something to hide then don't do the biz...it's that simple. You won't get away with shit in this country.
jomu