I was sent this link recently and wondered what other may think about this?
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9/11 and WT7 your thoughts on this please
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Conspiracy theory garbage. The collapse is consistent with a massive failure across multiple elements as a result of damage to a structural element and consequent overload distribution.
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I was sent this link recently and wondered what other may think about this?
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The trouble with 9/11 is it was so damn convenient for so many of America's most powerful warmongers, I have also heard that Israel were aware that something was going to happen in advance and had called it's top people to make sure they were not there that day. Then you have to wonder why anyone was filming the building if they didn't have a clue something was going to happen. People are reluctant to believe that a government that have been elected via the "democratic" process could be capable of such a cruel and disgusting conspiracy against so many of it's own people, I'm not so sure. The US wanted to start this "war on terror", and it was so easy for them to justify their actions after 9/11.
The London bus bombings 7/7 were more likely to be genuine, although I doubt if the fanatics would have done it had they not believed that Al Quieda had successfully carried out the 9/11 WTC atrocity themselves. It is difficult to remain rational and say I am certain of what really happened on those two occasions, although many of us really did believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, which of course they didn't, indeed they were nowhere near acquiring them.
So we know our governments were determined to have these wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that they were prepared to tell us bare faced lies in order to justify them. So how much further were they prepared to go, and what next?
The London bus bombings 7/7 were more likely to be genuine, although I doubt if the fanatics would have done it had they not believed that Al Quieda had successfully carried out the 9/11 WTC atrocity themselves. It is difficult to remain rational and say I am certain of what really happened on those two occasions, although many of us really did believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, which of course they didn't, indeed they were nowhere near acquiring them.
So we know our governments were determined to have these wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that they were prepared to tell us bare faced lies in order to justify them. So how much further were they prepared to go, and what next?
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Conspiracy theory garbage. The collapse is consistent with a massive failure across multiple elements as a result of damage to a structural element and consequent overload distribution.
I was sent this link recently and wondered what other may think about this?
I know what your saying but it falls so perfect, all the structural supports failed at exactly the same time? This is all quite new to me, I was not aware of a third building collapsing that day.
I do not like these type of theory's either but also don't feel it can be explained as easily as you suggest, what you suggest make as little sense to me as what they are all suggesting!
Another link below
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I think it fell as a result of the airplane crash. The fire ignited the aluminium of the aircraft and then the steel in a central part of the building. Floors from above fell down and the weight was all placed in the centre of the building which just dragged everything down with it. The force of it all headed vertically downward. So the building collapsed into itself.
Aluminium powder is used for welding steel on railways lines. the powder is placed between the ends of the rail track, ignited and it gets hot enough to weld steel. A lot of it will set steel on fire.
Aluminium powder is used for welding steel on railways lines. the powder is placed between the ends of the rail track, ignited and it gets hot enough to weld steel. A lot of it will set steel on fire.
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I think it fell as a result of the airplane crash. The fire ignited the aluminium of the aircraft and then the steel in a central part of the building. Floors from above fell down and the weight was all placed in the centre of the building which just dragged everything down with it. The force of it all headed vertically downward. So the building collapsed into itself.
This building was not hit by any airplane! This building fell 7 hour later
The third building to collapse that day, I was totaly unaware of untill now.
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I think it fell as a result of the airplane crash. The fire ignited the aluminium of the aircraft and then the steel in a central part of the building. Floors from above fell down and the weight was all placed in the centre of the building which just dragged everything down with it. The force of it all headed vertically downward. So the building collapsed into itself.
This building was not hit by any airplane! This building fell 7 hour later
The third building to collapse that day, I was totaly unaware of untill now.
okay
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The building must have been wired with explosives during those 7 hours.
Probably to destroy information.
Probably to destroy information.
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The building must have been wired with explosives during those 7 hours.
I would say so also, but,
Not according to the official story
Also it is a 47 story building, fast workers and in all that confusion
Sex God
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well possibly such buildings that hold secret information are already prefitted with explosives, in the event of such an attack. It would have taken a few hours to get in there check that it was still possible to blow the building successfully and prepare it for the explosion.
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well possibly such buildings that hold secret information are already prefitted with explosives, in the event of such an attack.
Yes, this holds some logic
Thank you
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The trouble with 9/11 is it was so damn convenient for so many of America's most powerful warmongers, I have also heard that Israel were aware that something was going to happen in advance and had called it's top people to make sure they were not there that day. Then you have to wonder why anyone was filming the building if they didn't have a clue something was going to happen. People are reluctant to believe that a government that have been elected via the "democratic" process could be capable of such a cruel and disgusting conspiracy against so many of it's own people, I'm not so sure. The US wanted to start this "war on terror", and it was so easy for them to justify their actions after 9/11.
The London bus bombings 7/7 were more likely to be genuine, although I doubt if the fanatics would have done it had they not believed that Al Quieda had successfully carried out the 9/11 WTC atrocity themselves. It is difficult to remain rational and say I am certain of what really happened on those two occasions, although many of us really did believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, which of course they didn't, indeed they were nowhere near acquiring them.
So we know our governments were determined to have these wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that they were prepared to tell us bare faced lies in order to justify them. So how much further were they prepared to go, and what next?
That is a scary thought!
But so much here does not make sense, the BBC report the collapse before it happens
More here
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were the Salomon brothers a financial operation? Quite possibly with lots of connections in middle eastern finances?
If so it makes sense that their financial headquarters be destroyed to create chaos throughout the middle east.
I suppose it wouldn't destroy everything, but perhaps intellectual properties and plans for future developments.
Something like that maybe?
If so it makes sense that their financial headquarters be destroyed to create chaos throughout the middle east.
I suppose it wouldn't destroy everything, but perhaps intellectual properties and plans for future developments.
Something like that maybe?
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I think it fell as a result of the airplane crash. The fire ignited the aluminium of the aircraft and then the steel in a central part of the building. Floors from above fell down and the weight was all placed in the centre of the building which just dragged everything down with it. The force of it all headed vertically downward. So the building collapsed into itself.
This building was not hit by any airplane! This building fell 7 hour later
The third building to collapse that day, I was totaly unaware of untill now.
You've not heard of it before now? What kind of internet user are you?
;) Yer internet warriors have been banging on about WTC7, and how no steel framed building has ever collapsed purely as a result of fire ((( Wrong! Yes they have, but in any event, WTC7 fell because of massive structural failure, so the fire thing is a bit of a red herring altogether. ))) and how it must have been a controlled demolition, cos Silverstein said they were gonna 'pull it' ((( Out of context misintepretation of a very simple statement! ))) and how the BBC reported the collapse even before it even happened ((( Wrong! ))) as if they were in on the secret, and how the Jews were evacuated from the area cos they were in on it ((( Lie! ))) and, and everything? :?It is all complete bollox of course, cos what the conspiracy theorists rarely show is the massive damage caused to the south face of the building by the debris from the previous collapse of the twin towers. A cursory examination of a few photographs of the damage to the building will tell anyone with 'alf a brain in their 'ead that massive structural damage to a number of key components in a load bearing system will at some point cause the entire load bearing system to fail, quite catastrophically. At that point, the building will fall down, entirely of its own accord, with no help from anyone.
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I know what your saying but it falls so perfect, all the structural supports failed at exactly the same time?
To reiterate . . . they do not all have to be equally compromised to fail at the same time. A structural system is a system. The integrity of that system depends entirely upon the integrity of every single component within that system. A failure in just one of those components compromises the system as a whole. A failure in multiple components causes multiple failure, so the system as a whole fails. A loss of tensile strength, or load bearing capability in just a few key components will make the whole thing fall down very quickly. The conspiracy theorists are quite frankly talking out of their arse. And they know it!
N x x x ;)
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I think it fell as a result of the airplane crash. The fire ignited the aluminium of the aircraft and then the steel in a central part of the building. Floors from above fell down and the weight was all placed in the centre of the building which just dragged everything down with it. The force of it all headed vertically downward. So the building collapsed into itself.
This building was not hit by any airplane! This building fell 7 hour later
The third building to collapse that day, I was totaly unaware of untill now.
You've not heard of it before now? What kind of internet user are you?
;) Yer internet warriors have been banging on about WTC7, and how no steel framed building has ever collapsed purely as a result of fire ((( Wrong! Yes they have, but in any event, WTC7 fell because of massive structural failure, so the fire thing is a bit of a red herring altogether. ))) and how it must have been a controlled demolition, cos Silverstein said they were gonna 'pull it' ((( Out of context misintepretation of a very simple statement! ))) and how the BBC reported the collapse even before it even happened ((( Wrong! ))) as if they were in on the secret, and how the Jews were evacuated from the area cos they were in on it ((( Lie! ))) and, and everything? :?It is all complete bollox of course, cos what the conspiracy theorists rarely show is the massive damage caused to the south face of the building by the debris from the previous collapse of the twin towers. A cursory examination of a few photographs of the damage to the building will tell anyone with 'alf a brain in their 'ead that massive structural damage to a number of key components in a load bearing system will at some point cause the entire load bearing system to fail, quite catastrophically. At that point, the building will fall down, entirely of its own accord, with no help from anyone.
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I know what your saying but it falls so perfect, all the structural supports failed at exactly the same time?
To reiterate . . . they do not all have to be equally compromised to fail at the same time. A structural system is a system. The integrity of that system depends entirely upon the integrity of every single component within that system. A failure in just one of those components compromises the system as a whole. A failure in multiple components causes multiple failure, so the system as a whole fails. A loss of tensile strength, or load bearing capability in just a few key components will make the whole thing fall down very quickly. The conspiracy theorists are quite frankly talking out of their arse. And they know it!N x x x ;)
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The building was a lattice work of structural members, each dependent on the integrity of the others.
The structural damage from the other building caused an overload on the structure.
The way it collapsed doesn't surprise me since the building was wider than its base; it was built above an electricity substation and above a vehicle access. So when the structure gave way the base will have collapsed around the substructure - hence it all went down at once.
I know what your saying but it falls so perfect, all the structural supports failed at exactly the same time? This is all quite new to me, I was not aware of a third building collapsing that day.
I do not like these type of theory's either but also don't feel it can be explained as easily as you suggest, what you suggest make as little sense to me as what they are all suggesting!
Another link below
The structural damage from the other building caused an overload on the structure.
The way it collapsed doesn't surprise me since the building was wider than its base; it was built above an electricity substation and above a vehicle access. So when the structure gave way the base will have collapsed around the substructure - hence it all went down at once.
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Conspiracy theory garbage. The collapse is consistent with a massive failure across multiple elements as a result of damage to a structural element and consequent overload distribution.
I was sent this link recently and wondered what other may think about this?
I know what your saying but it falls so perfect, all the structural supports failed at exactly the same time? This is all quite new to me, I was not aware of a third building collapsing that day.
I do not like these type of theory's either but also don't feel it can be explained as easily as you suggest, what you suggest make as little sense to me as what they are all suggesting!
Another link below
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please read all articles from here, there is also some good stuff on regarding 9/11 conspiracy theories
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please read all articles from here, there is also some good stuff on regarding 9/11 conspiracy theories
Thank you I will
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I think it fell as a result of the airplane crash. The fire ignited the aluminium of the aircraft and then the steel in a central part of the building. Floors from above fell down and the weight was all placed in the centre of the building which just dragged everything down with it. The force of it all headed vertically downward. So the building collapsed into itself.
This building was not hit by any airplane! This building fell 7 hour later
The third building to collapse that day, I was totaly unaware of untill now.
You've not heard of it before now? What kind of internet user are you?
;) Yer internet warriors have been banging on about WTC7, and how no steel framed building has ever collapsed purely as a result of fire ((( Wrong! Yes they have, but in any event, WTC7 fell because of massive structural failure, so the fire thing is a bit of a red herring altogether. ))) and how it must have been a controlled demolition, cos Silverstein said they were gonna 'pull it' ((( Out of context misintepretation of a very simple statement! ))) and how the BBC reported the collapse even before it even happened ((( Wrong! ))) as if they were in on the secret, and how the Jews were evacuated from the area cos they were in on it ((( Lie! ))) and, and everything? :?It is all complete bollox of course, cos what the conspiracy theorists rarely show is the massive damage caused to the south face of the building by the debris from the previous collapse of the twin towers. A cursory examination of a few photographs of the damage to the building will tell anyone with 'alf a brain in their 'ead that massive structural damage to a number of key components in a load bearing system will at some point cause the entire load bearing system to fail, quite catastrophically. At that point, the building will fall down, entirely of its own accord, with no help from anyone.
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I know what your saying but it falls so perfect, all the structural supports failed at exactly the same time?
To reiterate . . . they do not all have to be equally compromised to fail at the same time. A structural system is a system. The integrity of that system depends entirely upon the integrity of every single component within that system. A failure in just one of those components compromises the system as a whole. A failure in multiple components causes multiple failure, so the system as a whole fails. A loss of tensile strength, or load bearing capability in just a few key components will make the whole thing fall down very quickly. The conspiracy theorists are quite frankly talking out of their arse. And they know it!
N x x x ;)
Thank you,
But not sure all you say is correct
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Is Elvis still alive too?
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Is Elvis still alive too?
Of course he is, he works down our local chipshop, the ones those Geermens didn't bomb in WW2. You didn't really believe he died on the bog, did you? He stole that story off Steptoe & Son, apparently he was their biggest fan.
Easy to ridicule Kenty, even though the public have been constantly lied to by politicians and before them monarchs throughout the whole of history.
Brighton Geezer, doubts the official story!
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i dont know if 9/11 was an inside job or not.
what i do know, and everyone else on the planet know's, is that over a 3 hour period or more if you include the building "world trade centre 7" that the most sophisticated, advanced, most powerful military defence (defense in america) system on earth was "stood down" on the direct orders of the then vice president, dick cheney. ref: congressional report on 9/11. we also know that the f.b.i.'s investigation which led them to publish the names of the hijackers with photo's within 48 hours was based on the material evidence of "the green saudi passport of mohammed atta" being found at "ground zero" in perfect condition.
now that begs a few questions, also in the 9/11 report, are f.b.i. suvellance and agent reports that the f.b.i. was aware that some of the named kamakazi pilots were trained in the u.s. just prior to the attack and that the trainers reports of at least two of them was that they were totally incompetent as pilots. there have been no sackings or trials of anyone for incompetence. strange ?
since 9/11 the americans and british have invaded afghanistan and occupied it on the basis of "al quaeder" and the war on terror, invaded iraq and occupied it initially based on the war on terror, then regime change/weapons of mass deception, now bringing democracy, have bombed (with drones) and special forces northern pakistan and now yemen. news stories now abound from "our" intel services and politicians of "al quaeder" trained female suicide bombers emmanating out of yemen and we are at "code red" for a new attack. sounds good for the scanner bussiness to me. also, creating fear in the populus helps bring in new laws to curtail civil liberties and freedom in the interests of "protecting our freedoms"? it also helps to get people to go along with new wars and invasions. when the next "terrorist" event takes place, we should ask ourselves, "in who's interests does this serve?". just like the train that was cancelled from luton on 7/7 and the well heeled muslim provocation demo that never was going to be at wooton bassett i only have this to say :- you can fool some of the people some of the time but....
what i do know, and everyone else on the planet know's, is that over a 3 hour period or more if you include the building "world trade centre 7" that the most sophisticated, advanced, most powerful military defence (defense in america) system on earth was "stood down" on the direct orders of the then vice president, dick cheney. ref: congressional report on 9/11. we also know that the f.b.i.'s investigation which led them to publish the names of the hijackers with photo's within 48 hours was based on the material evidence of "the green saudi passport of mohammed atta" being found at "ground zero" in perfect condition.
now that begs a few questions, also in the 9/11 report, are f.b.i. suvellance and agent reports that the f.b.i. was aware that some of the named kamakazi pilots were trained in the u.s. just prior to the attack and that the trainers reports of at least two of them was that they were totally incompetent as pilots. there have been no sackings or trials of anyone for incompetence. strange ?
since 9/11 the americans and british have invaded afghanistan and occupied it on the basis of "al quaeder" and the war on terror, invaded iraq and occupied it initially based on the war on terror, then regime change/weapons of mass deception, now bringing democracy, have bombed (with drones) and special forces northern pakistan and now yemen. news stories now abound from "our" intel services and politicians of "al quaeder" trained female suicide bombers emmanating out of yemen and we are at "code red" for a new attack. sounds good for the scanner bussiness to me. also, creating fear in the populus helps bring in new laws to curtail civil liberties and freedom in the interests of "protecting our freedoms"? it also helps to get people to go along with new wars and invasions. when the next "terrorist" event takes place, we should ask ourselves, "in who's interests does this serve?". just like the train that was cancelled from luton on 7/7 and the well heeled muslim provocation demo that never was going to be at wooton bassett i only have this to say :- you can fool some of the people some of the time but....
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i dont know if 9/11 was an inside job or not.
what i do know, and everyone else on the planet know's, is that over a 3 hour period or more if you include the building "world trade centre 7" that the most sophisticated, advanced, most powerful military defence (defense in america) system on earth was "stood down" on the direct orders of the then vice president, dick cheney. ref: congressional report on 9/11. we also know that the f.b.i.'s investigation which led them to publish the names of the hijackers with photo's within 48 hours was based on the material evidence of "the green saudi passport of mohammed atta" being found at "ground zero" in perfect condition.
now that begs a few questions, also in the 9/11 report, are f.b.i. suvellance and agent reports that the f.b.i. was aware that some of the named kamakazi pilots were trained in the u.s. just prior to the attack and that the trainers reports of at least two of them was that they were totally incompetent as pilots. there have been no sackings or trials of anyone for incompetence. strange ?
since 9/11 the americans and british have invaded afghanistan and occupied it on the basis of "al quaeder" and the war on terror, invaded iraq and occupied it initially based on the war on terror, then regime change/weapons of mass deception, now bringing democracy, have bombed (with drones) and special forces northern pakistan and now yemen. news stories now abound from "our" intel services and politicians of "al quaeder" trained female suicide bombers emmanating out of yemen and we are at "code red" for a new attack. sounds good for the scanner bussiness to me. also, creating fear in the populus helps bring in new laws to curtail civil liberties and freedom in the interests of "protecting our freedoms"? it also helps to get people to go along with new wars and invasions. when the next "terrorist" event takes place, we should ask ourselves, "in who's interests does this serve?". just like the train that was cancelled from luton on 7/7 and the well heeled muslim provocation demo that never was going to be at wooton bassett i only have this to say :- you can fool some of the people some of the time but....
Well sourced and referenced articles which debunk what you just wrote.....
incase you cant be bothered to read them, here is an example...
(12) We are being asked by the conspiracy theorists to assume that NORAD was stood down on the morning of 11th September 2001 so as to enable the success of the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon. NORAD is a combined command, not a purely American one - it has a binational staff drawn from the US military and the Canadian Forces (CF). We are either supposed to believe that the CF personnel assigned to NORAD were too stupid to notice anything amiss in their headquarters - and query it - or that the Canadian government and the CF were complicit in 9/11. Which of these scenarios is true?
Orgasminator
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i dont know if 9/11 was an inside job or not.
what i do know, and everyone else on the planet know's, is that over a 3 hour period or more if you include the building "world trade centre 7" that the most sophisticated, advanced, most powerful military defence (defense in america) system on earth was "stood down" on the direct orders of the then vice president, dick cheney. ref: congressional report on 9/11. we also know that the f.b.i.'s investigation which led them to publish the names of the hijackers with photo's within 48 hours was based on the material evidence of "the green saudi passport of mohammed atta" being found at "ground zero" in perfect condition.
now that begs a few questions, also in the 9/11 report, are f.b.i. suvellance and agent reports that the f.b.i. was aware that some of the named kamakazi pilots were trained in the u.s. just prior to the attack and that the trainers reports of at least two of them was that they were totally incompetent as pilots. there have been no sackings or trials of anyone for incompetence. strange ?
since 9/11 the americans and british have invaded afghanistan and occupied it on the basis of "al quaeder" and the war on terror, invaded iraq and occupied it initially based on the war on terror, then regime change/weapons of mass deception, now bringing democracy, have bombed (with drones) and special forces northern pakistan and now yemen. news stories now abound from "our" intel services and politicians of "al quaeder" trained female suicide bombers emmanating out of yemen and we are at "code red" for a new attack. sounds good for the scanner bussiness to me. also, creating fear in the populus helps bring in new laws to curtail civil liberties and freedom in the interests of "protecting our freedoms"? it also helps to get people to go along with new wars and invasions. when the next "terrorist" event takes place, we should ask ourselves, "in who's interests does this serve?". just like the train that was cancelled from luton on 7/7 and the well heeled muslim provocation demo that never was going to be at wooton bassett i only have this to say :- you can fool some of the people some of the time but....
Well sourced and referenced articles which debunk what you just wrote.....
incase you cant be bothered to read them, here is an example...
(12) We are being asked by the conspiracy theorists to assume that NORAD was stood down on the morning of 11th September 2001 so as to enable the success of the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon. NORAD is a combined command, not a purely American one - it has a binational staff drawn from the US military and the Canadian Forces (CF). We are either supposed to believe that the CF personnel assigned to NORAD were too stupid to notice anything amiss in their headquarters - and query it - or that the Canadian government and the CF were complicit in 9/11. Which of these scenarios is true?i must be totally wrong then. the whole thing came out of the blue and was organised, planned and supervised by osama bin liner out of a cave in tora bora afghanistan, who fell out with his previous supporters who helped him get the commies out of afghanistan bananistan cos alah told him to and now he's taking over the world. once upon a time.....
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i dont know if 9/11 was an inside job or not.
what i do know, and everyone else on the planet know's, is that over a 3 hour period or more if you include the building "world trade centre 7" that the most sophisticated, advanced, most powerful military defence (defense in america) system on earth was "stood down" on the direct orders of the then vice president, dick cheney. ref: congressional report on 9/11. we also know that the f.b.i.'s investigation which led them to publish the names of the hijackers with photo's within 48 hours was based on the material evidence of "the green saudi passport of mohammed atta" being found at "ground zero" in perfect condition.
now that begs a few questions, also in the 9/11 report, are f.b.i. suvellance and agent reports that the f.b.i. was aware that some of the named kamakazi pilots were trained in the u.s. just prior to the attack and that the trainers reports of at least two of them was that they were totally incompetent as pilots. there have been no sackings or trials of anyone for incompetence. strange ?
since 9/11 the americans and british have invaded afghanistan and occupied it on the basis of "al quaeder" and the war on terror, invaded iraq and occupied it initially based on the war on terror, then regime change/weapons of mass deception, now bringing democracy, have bombed (with drones) and special forces northern pakistan and now yemen. news stories now abound from "our" intel services and politicians of "al quaeder" trained female suicide bombers emmanating out of yemen and we are at "code red" for a new attack. sounds good for the scanner bussiness to me. also, creating fear in the populus helps bring in new laws to curtail civil liberties and freedom in the interests of "protecting our freedoms"? it also helps to get people to go along with new wars and invasions. when the next "terrorist" event takes place, we should ask ourselves, "in who's interests does this serve?". just like the train that was cancelled from luton on 7/7 and the well heeled muslim provocation demo that never was going to be at wooton bassett i only have this to say :- you can fool some of the people some of the time but....
Well sourced and referenced articles which debunk what you just wrote.....
incase you cant be bothered to read them, here is an example...
(12) We are being asked by the conspiracy theorists to assume that NORAD was stood down on the morning of 11th September 2001 so as to enable the success of the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon. NORAD is a combined command, not a purely American one - it has a binational staff drawn from the US military and the Canadian Forces (CF). We are either supposed to believe that the CF personnel assigned to NORAD were too stupid to notice anything amiss in their headquarters - and query it - or that the Canadian government and the CF were complicit in 9/11. Which of these scenarios is true?i must be totally wrong then. the whole thing came out of the blue and was organised, planned and supervised by osama bin liner out of a cave in tora bora afghanistan, who fell out with his previous supporters who helped him get the commies out of afghanistan bananistan cos alah told him to and now he's taking over the world. once upon a time.....
yep, you are totally wrong
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Come on you guys....are you really implying that the American Administration took down the twin towers themselves, just so as to have an excuse to go into Iraq?
Listen to what Blair " apparently " said about WMD....even if they did not exist he would still have gone to war.
I believe the Yanks would have taken exactly the same stance, regardless of the twin towers or not.
I cannot believe that people can even consider this.
Still plenty of people are still convinced Diana was " bumped off " by some insider working for HMG.
Jeeze.....I do love a good conspiralist story but...........really.
Listen to what Blair " apparently " said about WMD....even if they did not exist he would still have gone to war.
I believe the Yanks would have taken exactly the same stance, regardless of the twin towers or not.
I cannot believe that people can even consider this.
Still plenty of people are still convinced Diana was " bumped off " by some insider working for HMG.
Jeeze.....I do love a good conspiralist story but...........really.
Orgasminator
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so, cos i is a bit daft and dont believe the story we've bin told so far, what is the truth then? did saddam hussein really av weapons of mass deception or wos ee a member of al quaeder? could he hit cyprus in 45 minuets? did the vietnamese really attack the americans in the gulf of tonkin? did doctor david kelly really commit suicide? do we really need a carbon tax cos the earth is warmin? did lee harvey oswald really shoot the president in the head throwing his head forward in the car, then run round the front and shoot im making his head go the other way? is osama bin liner still alive and is he and all his followers really that cleva? did sum burke try to blow his socks off by litin his shoelace? did an even bigger burke try to blow his balls off? is sum siren tryin to kill us all wiv explodin bras and knickers? i know wot your gonna say, i'm sum kinda conspiracy anorak and i should believe all this stuff and not question official government explanations cos they wud neva lie to us. everyfin we are told must be true and we should neva question anyfin and keep payin our sweat and blood.
Sex God
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i dont know if 9/11 was an inside job or not.
what i do know, and everyone else on the planet know's, is that over a 3 hour period or more if you include the building "world trade centre 7" that the most sophisticated, advanced, most powerful military defence (defense in america) system on earth was "stood down" on the direct orders of the then vice president, dick cheney. ref: congressional report on 9/11. we also know that the f.b.i.'s investigation which led them to publish the names of the hijackers with photo's within 48 hours was based on the material evidence of "the green saudi passport of mohammed atta" being found at "ground zero" in perfect condition.
now that begs a few questions, also in the 9/11 report, are f.b.i. suvellance and agent reports that the f.b.i. was aware that some of the named kamakazi pilots were trained in the u.s. just prior to the attack and that the trainers reports of at least two of them was that they were totally incompetent as pilots. there have been no sackings or trials of anyone for incompetence. strange ?
since 9/11 the americans and british have invaded afghanistan and occupied it on the basis of "al quaeder" and the war on terror, invaded iraq and occupied it initially based on the war on terror, then regime change/weapons of mass deception, now bringing democracy, have bombed (with drones) and special forces northern pakistan and now yemen. news stories now abound from "our" intel services and politicians of "al quaeder" trained female suicide bombers emmanating out of yemen and we are at "code red" for a new attack. sounds good for the scanner bussiness to me. also, creating fear in the populus helps bring in new laws to curtail civil liberties and freedom in the interests of "protecting our freedoms"? it also helps to get people to go along with new wars and invasions. when the next "terrorist" event takes place, we should ask ourselves, "in who's interests does this serve?". just like the train that was cancelled from luton on 7/7 and the well heeled muslim provocation demo that never was going to be at wooton bassett i only have this to say :- you can fool some of the people some of the time but....
Well sourced and referenced articles which debunk what you just wrote.....
incase you cant be bothered to read them, here is an example...
(12) We are being asked by the conspiracy theorists to assume that NORAD was stood down on the morning of 11th September 2001 so as to enable the success of the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon. NORAD is a combined command, not a purely American one - it has a binational staff drawn from the US military and the Canadian Forces (CF). We are either supposed to believe that the CF personnel assigned to NORAD were too stupid to notice anything amiss in their headquarters - and query it - or that the Canadian government and the CF were complicit in 9/11. Which of these scenarios is true?i must be totally wrong then. the whole thing came out of the blue and was organised, planned and supervised by osama bin liner out of a cave in tora bora afghanistan, who fell out with his previous supporters who helped him get the commies out of afghanistan bananistan cos alah told him to and now he's taking over the world. once upon a time.....
Not as much a fairy tale as your version of events!!
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so, cos i is a bit daft and dont believe the story we've bin told so far, what is the truth then? did saddam hussein really av weapons of mass deception or wos ee a member of al quaeder? could he hit cyprus in 45 minuets? did the vietnamese really attack the americans in the gulf of tonkin? did doctor david kelly really commit suicide? do we really need a carbon tax cos the earth is warmin? did lee harvey oswald really shoot the president in the head throwing his head forward in the car, then run round the front and shoot im making his head go the other way? is osama bin liner still alive and is he and all his followers really that cleva? did sum burke try to blow his socks off by litin his shoelace? did an even bigger burke try to blow his balls off? is sum siren tryin to kill us all wiv explodin bras and knickers? i know wot your gonna say, i'm sum kinda conspiracy anorak and i should believe all this stuff and not question official government explanations cos they wud neva lie to us. everyfin we are told must be true and we should neva question anyfin and keep payin our sweat and blood.
You should always question everything, I don't blindly believe everything i've been told, however you need to look at all sides of a story, not just the opposite side of the story that the government tells you.
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When you go to court and you are told to put your hand on the bible and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, you can be jailed for perjury if you are caught deliberately telling lies. It doesn't matter if you are the accused or a witness on either side you are expected to tell the truth. Unfortunately politicians and leaders who are sworn into office have a different set of rules, they tell us. nothing but lies and expect us to believe them and they are never brought to book. Nothing is ever really what it seems, take Gordon Brown for an example, he has been pissing up our backs and telling us it is raining for years, since his days as chancellor. Her Majesties Prisons are still used as gulags, I know a few people either in there or awaiting trial just because of things they gave written or said.
No conspiracies? My arse, it's all a conspiracy, and it is going to get worse! :0(
No conspiracies? My arse, it's all a conspiracy, and it is going to get worse! :0(
