I was reading a magazine today and came across a story of a 13 year old boy who has fathered a child to a 15 year old girl.
The girl was on the pill but had missed taking one and had got pregnant.
How can society have let these young children to make such important decisions on their own? To have been allowed to walk out of the Dr’s office advising them to tell their parents is surely wrong? Do we as adults not have a responsibility to protect and guide children? Shouldn’t it have been the Dr who immediately spoke to the parents?
But if they missed a day at school their parents would have been told and maybe even imprisoned!
In my opinion the current rules on patient confidentiality are ridiculas in this case and surely some provision should be written in to the rules Drs have to practice under.
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Sex God
Jades getting Married? No, get away, really? Since when blimey wondered what she's been up to since BB.
Its a hard one this.......
Leaving those two apart for now.
Two of my kids are girls, but did not have sex till 21 and 19.
We used to chat loads about sex, prenancy, stds, aids and such like.
The key is communication. They have always come to me, and did at the time, and both asked to go on the pill, so both went down to family planning by Mums taxi. Both know to use condoms as well. (still dont do it at my house though, unless I am away!)
If mine had gone to the Doctors under age and asked for the pill, I would want to know, and expect the Doctor to tell me, as their parent. The trouble is, the Doctors do not by law have to.
I as an adult forgot to take my pill at times, so a 15 year old would as well, I'm sure.
Under age sex is always going to happen what ever we do.
Kids having kids, not good.
Good luck to them all, with a lot of support and guidance lets hope all is well.
Ten years ago this happened, the young children involved are still together raising they child!
Lucys post.
Leaving those two apart for now.
Two of my kids are girls, but did not have sex till 21 and 19.
We used to chat loads about sex, prenancy, stds, aids and such like.
The key is communication. They have always come to me, and did at the time, and both asked to go on the pill, so both went down to family planning by Mums taxi. Both know to use condoms as well. (still dont do it at my house though, unless I am away!)
If mine had gone to the Doctors under age and asked for the pill, I would want to know, and expect the Doctor to tell me, as their parent. The trouble is, the Doctors do not by law have to.
I as an adult forgot to take my pill at times, so a 15 year old would as well, I'm sure.
Under age sex is always going to happen what ever we do.
Kids having kids, not good.
Good luck to them all, with a lot of support and guidance lets hope all is well.
Ten years ago this happened, the young children involved are still together raising they child!
Lucys post.
Warming the Bed
I think another two teenage lads have now claimed to be the father as they had also slept with her around the same time she got pregnant.
Sex God
apparently the original lad has heard about the others claiming the child is theirs and he has joined fathers for justice.....................................................
..........hes not worried about the custody really, but he thought since he already had the spiderman suit what the heck.
..........hes not worried about the custody really, but he thought since he already had the spiderman suit what the heck.
Sex God
Quote by Silk and Big G
apparently the original lad has heard about the others claiming the child is theirs and he has joined fathers for justice.....................................................
..........hes not worried about the custody really, but he thought since he already had the spiderman suit what the heck.
OMG i have tears rolling down my cheeks thats just toooooooooooooo funny :giggle:
Master of Sex
It shocked me in this day and age that kids that age are having sex without using condoms with all the information they have thrown at them at school about sexual health and unplanned pregnancies.
I have 4 children the eldest of which is now 18 but once he turned 14 I brought him some condoms cause I knew there was a boy he was at school with who had got his 12yr old g/f pregnant. I did however explain that it wasnt the green light to go out having sex with any girl but for when he felt ready to try sex (which i must add took him almost another 2yrs and being with the same girl for almost a year). I also told him once he did start having sex to let me know once he was down to his last condom and I would get him more. We have always had a very oepn trusting relationship where we can talk about difficult subjects.
I have since repeated that with another son who has just turned 14, although I varied it slightly with my daughter I explained about unprotected sex and the dangers as she went on the pill for medical reasons at 15. I did make sure that being on the pill didn't mean it was ok to have unprotected sex, telling her that she doesnt know someones sexual history so she would be risking her sexual health without using a condom, The practice nurse resounded this to her when she went to get the pill.
I know some people will think me irresponsible but if i can protect my children from unplanned pregnancies at an idiotically young age and make sure their health is not jepodised then I'll continue to carry on this way with my youngest child when they reach the age.
I have 4 children the eldest of which is now 18 but once he turned 14 I brought him some condoms cause I knew there was a boy he was at school with who had got his 12yr old g/f pregnant. I did however explain that it wasnt the green light to go out having sex with any girl but for when he felt ready to try sex (which i must add took him almost another 2yrs and being with the same girl for almost a year). I also told him once he did start having sex to let me know once he was down to his last condom and I would get him more. We have always had a very oepn trusting relationship where we can talk about difficult subjects.
I have since repeated that with another son who has just turned 14, although I varied it slightly with my daughter I explained about unprotected sex and the dangers as she went on the pill for medical reasons at 15. I did make sure that being on the pill didn't mean it was ok to have unprotected sex, telling her that she doesnt know someones sexual history so she would be risking her sexual health without using a condom, The practice nurse resounded this to her when she went to get the pill.
I know some people will think me irresponsible but if i can protect my children from unplanned pregnancies at an idiotically young age and make sure their health is not jepodised then I'll continue to carry on this way with my youngest child when they reach the age.
Even if there are laws about under age sex etc. it does not prevent kids developing and maturing at a young age. Along with this is the obvious developing sexuality.
There are some youngsters who sexually mature during school years. They also recognise that this could well be the optimum period in their lives to attract potential spouses and breeding partners. Sounds incredible but not impossible.
So quite often they obey the law of the land, but form the relationship and the sexual bond during those early years, and patiently wait until one at least becomes of age.
Generally I expect with the attitude that 'its my life, this is my time and I can do it'.
There are some youngsters who sexually mature during school years. They also recognise that this could well be the optimum period in their lives to attract potential spouses and breeding partners. Sounds incredible but not impossible.
So quite often they obey the law of the land, but form the relationship and the sexual bond during those early years, and patiently wait until one at least becomes of age.
Generally I expect with the attitude that 'its my life, this is my time and I can do it'.
Sex God
The doctor is stuck between a rock and a hard place though aint he?
If he does not tell the parents he gets flamed for not telling them, If he does he could lose his job for breaking code of practice or what ever it is called!
Would you risk losing your job to tell some ones parents??
If he does not tell the parents he gets flamed for not telling them, If he does he could lose his job for breaking code of practice or what ever it is called!
Would you risk losing your job to tell some ones parents??
I shall tell you how mad we have become.
If a child had a headache and wanted paracetemol, they would need the parents permission to issue it.
Give kids the pill or condoms, or no doubt an abortion, and the parents have NO right to know.
Now if anyone can tell me which one should the parents know about, I know which one I would.
No wonder we are having to talk about such sad subjects as this, on what seems a oh so regular basis now.
Highest pregancy rate in the Western world.....I wonder why that is.
If a child had a headache and wanted paracetemol, they would need the parents permission to issue it.
Give kids the pill or condoms, or no doubt an abortion, and the parents have NO right to know.
Now if anyone can tell me which one should the parents know about, I know which one I would.
No wonder we are having to talk about such sad subjects as this, on what seems a oh so regular basis now.
Highest pregancy rate in the Western world.....I wonder why that is.
Whatever the doctors position on disclosure, once the baby is into full term it will conclude with the birth and the obvious signs will tell anyway. All of which the youngsters will know, largely due to their comprehensive sexual education.
So I don't think the 'deceit' from all participants is that relevant.
So I don't think the 'deceit' from all participants is that relevant.
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The doctor is stuck between a rock and a hard place though aint he?
If he does not tell the parents he gets flamed for not telling them, If he does he could lose his job for breaking code of practice or what ever it is called!
Would you risk losing your job to tell some ones parents??
It's not the doctors I question, its the system or code of practice that I question.
kentswingers777 well put. No wonder I get out on my bike to free myself of all the crap in this world.quote]
Dont get caught out by those dodgy people in their 4x4's though.
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Whatever the doctors position on disclosure, once the baby is into full term it will conclude with the birth and the obvious signs will tell anyway. All of which the youngsters will know, largely due to their comprehensive sexual education.
So I don't think the 'deceit' from all participants is that relevant.
Very often by the time a pregnancy is visable to the naked eye its already past the legal deadline of having a termination, therefore how then can the parents of the children be in a position to advise the youngsters of all of the options available to them. Or do we just accept that 12 year old children can make life changing decisions, not only for themselves but for the unborn child?
There seems to be an element of thinking that some parents suddenly become out of their depth when their underage child becomes a parent. I don't think most 'grandparents' have become so dependent on the nanny state that they can no longer think for themselves.
They can still advise and help as much as they can. because they already have the experience and in particular the knowledge of their own progeny. You know family love and knowledge is still the best thing for bringing up kids. Or is that something else that people seem to think they no longer have any ability to do?
If its a 'problem' family then I expect social services will become involved fairly soon.
The same options exist as much as they ever did really. Its either the family take on the new child or its adopted or social services intervene and take over.
They can still advise and help as much as they can. because they already have the experience and in particular the knowledge of their own progeny. You know family love and knowledge is still the best thing for bringing up kids. Or is that something else that people seem to think they no longer have any ability to do?
If its a 'problem' family then I expect social services will become involved fairly soon.
The same options exist as much as they ever did really. Its either the family take on the new child or its adopted or social services intervene and take over.
That'll be: "if social services take over and get the child adopted"
Maybe not, if it is from a "deprived" or "problem" family....they're harder to get adopted, so less likely to be taken into care ( for each child in care placed in adoption....as in gov payola)
I await the prosecution of the 15 year-old girl for having sex with a 13 year-old boy, or vice-versa.
Almost certainly the older males can expect a knock on the door....
As for the abortion... can have that done anyway, without either the parents or child consenting....they just get a protection order for the girl etc...but then there is the possibility of getting to split.
Or am I a cynic ?
Maybe not, if it is from a "deprived" or "problem" family....they're harder to get adopted, so less likely to be taken into care ( for each child in care placed in adoption....as in gov payola)
I await the prosecution of the 15 year-old girl for having sex with a 13 year-old boy, or vice-versa.
Almost certainly the older males can expect a knock on the door....
As for the abortion... can have that done anyway, without either the parents or child consenting....they just get a protection order for the girl etc...but then there is the possibility of getting to split.
Or am I a cynic ?
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That'll be: "if social services take over and get the child adopted"
Maybe not, if it is from a "deprived" or "problem" family....they're harder to get adopted, so less likely to be taken into care ( for each child in care placed in adoption....as in gov payola)
>snip<
As for the abortion... can have that done anyway, without either the parents or child consenting....they just get a protection order for the girl etc...but then there is the possibility of getting to split.
Or am I a cynic ?
Ummm I am unsure that I am able to understand exactly what you are implying or saying. Let me just check.. you think that social services will leave a child with a 'problem' family because they will find it harder to have it adopted by a family that isn't classified as 'problem'? If that is what you have said... you clearly no nothing about those children that are up for adoption.
the next bit you have written I think you are saying or implying that it is possible for an abortion to be carried out on a child against her or her parent's will if certain agencies follow a certain procedure? Again, you know nothing about social services/ medical services or ' the way that it is done'.
Are you a reporter for the Sun or the mail by any chance?
Sex God
Quote by splendid_
That'll be: "if social services take over and get the child adopted"
Maybe not, if it is from a "deprived" or "problem" family....they're harder to get adopted, so less likely to be taken into care ( for each child in care placed in adoption....as in gov payola)
>snip<
As for the abortion... can have that done anyway, without either the parents or child consenting....they just get a protection order for the girl etc...but then there is the possibility of getting to split.
Or am I a cynic ?
Ummm I am unsure that I am able to understand exactly what you are implying or saying. Let me just check.. you think that social services will leave a child with a 'problem' family because they will find it harder to have it adopted by a family that isn't classified as 'problem'? If that is what you have said... you clearly no nothing about those children that are up for adoption.
the next bit you have written I think you are saying or implying that it is possible for an abortion to be carried out on a child against her or her parent's will if certain agencies follow a certain procedure? Again, you know nothing about social services/ medical services or ' the way that it is done'.
Are you a reporter for the Sun or the mail by any chance?
Certainly a Solcredulist*, methinks
*with thanks to Robert Swindells for teaching me that perfect word!
Sex God
Quote by splendid_
Certainly a Solcredulist*, methinks
eh ? :shock:
One who believes what they read in The Sun and its ilk.... :wink:
going back a bit , i had my son at 15 me and his dad are still together and very happy so a child haveing a child can sometimes work not that i would want that for my son , i explained to him from an early age the need for protcetion not just against the chance of haveing a child but stds ,
Sex God
Quote by Dirtydiane28
going back a bit , i had my son at 15 me and his dad are still together and very happy so a child haveing a child can sometimes work not that i would want that for my son , i explained to him from an early age the need for protcetion not just against the chance of haveing a child but stds ,
Ah but Di, the thing is, young mums and dads who do a good job and bring their kids up well etc don't make good headlines do they?! That's part of the problem: we only ever get to hear about the bad stuff so some people constantly think the worst.
In edit: one of my best friends had her son when she had just turned sixteen. She had to leave school. Aaaanyway, she has since brought him up (and she is still with his Dad - who was 15 at the time their son was born) to be a bright, articulate, respectable young man who has an incredibly bright future ahead of him. Once he was in full-time school, she went back to college and did A-levels, an undergrad degree and a Masters: all this while she and her partner were looking after a house, bringing up a young child and having battled against all the "teenage mother" stereotypes. Sixteen years later, she's about to open her own business.
But again, her story would never have made front page news would it?
Sex God
Quote by noladreams30
going back a bit , i had my son at 15 me and his dad are still together and very happy so a child haveing a child can sometimes work not that i would want that for my son , i explained to him from an early age the need for protcetion not just against the chance of haveing a child but stds ,
Ah but Di, the thing is, young mums and dads who do a good job and bring their kids up well etc don't make good headlines do they?! That's part of the problem: we only ever get to hear about the bad stuff so some people constantly think the worst.
In edit: one of my best friends had her son when she had just turned sixteen. She had to leave school. Aaaanyway, she has since brought him up (and she is still with his Dad - who was 15 at the time their son was born) to be a bright, articulate, respectable young man who has an incredibly bright future ahead of him. Once he was in full-time school, she went back to college and did A-levels, an undergrad degree and a Masters: all this while she and her partner were looking after a house, bringing up a young child and having battled against all the "teenage mother" stereotypes. Sixteen years later, she's about to open her own business.
But again, her story would never have made front page news would it?
Well it bloody well should. THAT'S important!!!
Quote by splendid_
That'll be: "if social services take over and get the child adopted"
Maybe not, if it is from a "deprived" or "problem" family....they're harder to get adopted, so less likely to be taken into care ( for each child in care placed in adoption....as in gov payola)
>snip<
As for the abortion... can have that done anyway, without either the parents or child consenting....they just get a protection order for the girl etc...but then there is the possibility of getting to split.
Or am I a cynic ?
Ummm I am unsure that I am able to understand exactly what you are implying or saying. Let me just check.. you think that social services will leave a child with a 'problem' family because they will find it harder to have it adopted by a family that isn't classified as 'problem'? If that is what you have said... you clearly no nothing about those children that are up for adoption.
the next bit you have written I think you are saying or implying that it is possible for an abortion to be carried out on a child against her or her parent's will if certain agencies follow a certain procedure? Again, you know nothing about social services/ medical services or ' the way that it is done'.
Are you a reporter for the Sun or the mail by any chance?
Such a bitchy comment. Unlike you.
Sex God
I had to Google that :lol: wait does that makes me a Goocredulist ?
