We all know that in most cases speed cameras are there to raise money...period.
But in this case the evidence shows the accident rates at this site have risen, but because of the money raised it will be left there.
So it seems that money comes before peoples health and sometimes lives.
Shame on them.
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A ggod example as to why speed cameras should go.
That browning is the major reason why it is there.
Still some will obviously never go too fast or get a bit too close or do anything wrong. Some are road angels..... Anyone could get caught unless someone was in one of those motorised scooter things.
Still have to be an old fogey to have one of those, my Father has one of them but then he never went fast enough .
It is there to get revenue....it really is that simple!
Still some will obviously never go too fast or get a bit too close or do anything wrong. Some are road angels..... Anyone could get caught unless someone was in one of those motorised scooter things.
Still have to be an old fogey to have one of those, my Father has one of them but then he never went fast enough .
It is there to get revenue....it really is that simple!
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It would be interesting to know how many of those involved in the acidents and how many of those caught speeding by the camera were regualr users of that stretch of road and how many were using it for the first time and possibly caught out by bad road sinage....
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UK speed limits are well known.
UK speed limits are taught on the driver training courses.
UK speed limits are well marked and highly visible.
Some UK speed limits are subject to camera enforcement.
Anyone caught by a speed camera CHOSE to be.
Anyone who slams their brakes on cos of a camera CHOSE to speed in the first place.
Anyone who gets caught can bugger off and stop whining about it.
Anyone who gets hit by someone slamming brakes on cos of a camera has my deepest sympathy and should hope the book is thrown at the moron who does it. And should get the biggest compo out of them that they can.
Speeding is a choice. Getting cought by camera/radar gun or police car is TOUGH.
It isn't hard not to speed. Anyone who wants to stop speed cameras being a moneymaker for the government should simply NOT SPEED.
/rantmode
UK speed limits are taught on the driver training courses.
UK speed limits are well marked and highly visible.
Some UK speed limits are subject to camera enforcement.
Anyone caught by a speed camera CHOSE to be.
Anyone who slams their brakes on cos of a camera CHOSE to speed in the first place.
Anyone who gets caught can bugger off and stop whining about it.
Anyone who gets hit by someone slamming brakes on cos of a camera has my deepest sympathy and should hope the book is thrown at the moron who does it. And should get the biggest compo out of them that they can.
Speeding is a choice. Getting cought by camera/radar gun or police car is TOUGH.
It isn't hard not to speed. Anyone who wants to stop speed cameras being a moneymaker for the government should simply NOT SPEED.
/rantmode
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Foxylady you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!!
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Quote by foxylady2209
Anyone caught by a speed camera CHOSE to be.
Anyone who slams their brakes on cos of a camera CHOSE to speed in the first place.
Anyone who gets caught can bugger off and stop whining about it.
I got done by a mobile camera last year. I was driving along within the limit on a dual carriageway and came to a fairly sharp bend in the road. at this point the speed limit changed on the bend and i slowed down as soon as i saw the poorly sited sign post right on the bend....round which there was a camera van waiting. This was nothing to do with speed or safety, this was about making money. I tried to get details about the sign, it's sighting, the location of the van and it's distance from the sign and the police who issued the ticket did as much as possible to restrict this information while all the time theatening to increase the fine, add court costs etc, knowing i was about 100 miles from where the location was ( which was the middle of nowhere on a long road that looked the bloody same for miles).
Some cameras are fine and do help, others are specifically setup to milk the cash cow called motorists, 'the laws' are often manipulated to generate revenue so on my next vehicle i will be making it as difficult as possible for them to read my registration..all within 'the laws' of course
Quote by foxylady2209
UK speed limits are well known.
UK speed limits are taught on the driver training courses.
UK speed limits are well marked and highly visible.
Some UK speed limits are subject to camera enforcement.
Anyone caught by a speed camera CHOSE to be.
Anyone who slams their brakes on cos of a camera CHOSE to speed in the first place.
Anyone who gets caught can bugger off and stop whining about it.
Anyone who gets hit by someone slamming brakes on cos of a camera has my deepest sympathy and should hope the book is thrown at the moron who does it. And should get the biggest compo out of them that they can.
Speeding is a choice. Getting cought by camera/radar gun or police car is TOUGH.
It isn't hard not to speed. Anyone who wants to stop speed cameras being a moneymaker for the government should simply NOT SPEED.
/rantmode
Not exactly true if my current knowledge is correct (not now living in UK).
The unsigned 30mph limit has always been contentious as it relies on the distance between lamposts. It's not always clear and sometimes impossible to judge correctly.
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Quote by GnV
The unsigned 30mph limit has always been contentious as it relies on the distance between lamposts. It's not always clear and sometimes impossible to judge correctly.
While that may well be true there is a built in failsafe....
If unsure do 30mph ;-)
Quote by GnV
Not exactly true if my current knowledge is correct (not now living in UK).
The unsigned 30mph limit has always been contentious as it relies on the distance between lamposts. It's not always clear and sometimes impossible to judge correctly.
Not that correct. The DEFAULT speed limit in England is always 30mph. Anything else needs signing. In the event of there being no speed limit signs and having lamposts you then assume a 30mph limit.
You can't have both....that is: after the inital 30mph speed limit imposition AND there being lamposts it is against regulations to have 30mph repeater signs. Any other speed limit will be posted and repeated at regular distances.
And anyone running into the back of someone braking was driving too close anyway !
Only a fool "brakes" the two-second rule !"!
Here is an idea, and it dosn't involve hanging, lol.
How about asking the government to pass new legislation so that after a speed camera has made, say £50,000 prophet, that all proceeds have then to be passes on to local or at least British charities. Obviously by this I do mean Great Ormon Street Hospital and not some stuck up theater. Of course the charities themselves could oversee this, they would have to otherwise the next £100,000 would have to pay for some government appointed regulator to do it for them.
All bow down at the feet of the Geezer in agreement at a splendid idea, with not a noose in sight! :0)
How about asking the government to pass new legislation so that after a speed camera has made, say £50,000 prophet, that all proceeds have then to be passes on to local or at least British charities. Obviously by this I do mean Great Ormon Street Hospital and not some stuck up theater. Of course the charities themselves could oversee this, they would have to otherwise the next £100,000 would have to pay for some government appointed regulator to do it for them.
All bow down at the feet of the Geezer in agreement at a splendid idea, with not a noose in sight! :0)
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Not exactly true if my current knowledge is correct (not now living in UK).
The unsigned 30mph limit has always been contentious as it relies on the distance between lamposts. It's not always clear and sometimes impossible to judge correctly.
Not that correct. The DEFAULT speed limit in England is always 30mph. Anything else needs signing. In the event of there being no speed limit signs and having lamposts you then assume a 30mph limit.
You can't have both....that is: after the inital 30mph speed limit imposition AND there being lamposts it is against regulations to have 30mph repeater signs. Any other speed limit will be posted and repeated at regular distances.
And anyone running into the back of someone braking was driving too close anyway !
Only a fool "brakes" the two-second rule !"!
Remind me, are there 70mph speed limit signs on entering a motorway?
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Quote by GnV
Not exactly true if my current knowledge is correct (not now living in UK).
The unsigned 30mph limit has always been contentious as it relies on the distance between lamposts. It's not always clear and sometimes impossible to judge correctly.
Not that correct. The DEFAULT speed limit in England is always 30mph. Anything else needs signing. In the event of there being no speed limit signs and having lamposts you then assume a 30mph limit.
You can't have both....that is: after the inital 30mph speed limit imposition AND there being lamposts it is against regulations to have 30mph repeater signs. Any other speed limit will be posted and repeated at regular distances.
And anyone running into the back of someone braking was driving too close anyway !
Only a fool "brakes" the two-second rule !"!
Remind me, are there 70mph speed limit signs on entering a motorway?
Yes and occasionally there will be a round sign with a red outline and white background with the maximum speed in digits ...
I assume that those here who are anti speeding, are ermmmmm not speeders?
They have never ever gone over the speed limit...hog wash.
We are all guilty of it at some point, be it on purpose or by accident.
I was done last year on a road that had only been changed from a 40mph to a 30mph limit the week before. It was not a camera that got me but a sneaky mobile one parked round a blind corner.
Now yes I was speeding, yes I accepted the fine and the points, but jeeeeeze..........you would think from some peoples comments they have never done it.
ANYONE that drives can be caught, it is probably just some have been lucky.....so far, and when those are caught watch the moans and groans appear.
They have never ever gone over the speed limit...hog wash.
We are all guilty of it at some point, be it on purpose or by accident.
I was done last year on a road that had only been changed from a 40mph to a 30mph limit the week before. It was not a camera that got me but a sneaky mobile one parked round a blind corner.
Now yes I was speeding, yes I accepted the fine and the points, but jeeeeeze..........you would think from some peoples comments they have never done it.
ANYONE that drives can be caught, it is probably just some have been lucky.....so far, and when those are caught watch the moans and groans appear.
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all within 'the laws' of course
you will be using a standard plate then as the law doesnt allow you to change your number plate away from standard size or font at all even having a screw in the wrong place can lead to a rectify notice ,i'm not sure if they have got round to banning anti flash plates yet but even if having them is legal using them leaves you open to "perverting the course of justice"
as for the slowing down when you see a camera,you dont need to be speeding to do this its a human reaction regardless of if your doing 20 or 40,theres been numerous studies to back up that people panic brake or look away from the road to check their speedometer causing more crashes
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Quote by leatherednperky
all within 'the laws' of course
you will be using a standard plate then as the law doesnt allow you to change your number plate away from standard size or font at all even having a screw in the wrong place can lead to a rectify notice ,i'm not sure if they have got round to banning anti flash plates yet but even if having them is legal using them leaves you open to "perverting the course of justice"
as for the slowing down when you see a camera,you dont need to be speeding to do this its a human reaction regardless of if your doing 20 or 40,theres been numerous studies to back up that people panic brake or look away from the road to check their speedometer causing more crashes
I'm much more sneaky than that, it's all to do with the cameras angle on incidence
Quote by meat2pleaseu
all within 'the laws' of course
you will be using a standard plate then as the law doesnt allow you to change your number plate away from standard size or font at all even having a screw in the wrong place can lead to a rectify notice ,i'm not sure if they have got round to banning anti flash plates yet but even if having them is legal using them leaves you open to "perverting the course of justice"
as for the slowing down when you see a camera,you dont need to be speeding to do this its a human reaction regardless of if your doing 20 or 40,theres been numerous studies to back up that people panic brake or look away from the road to check their speedometer causing more crashes
I'm much more sneaky than that, it's all to do with the cameras angle on incidence
i see where your coming from i had a similar idea with my bike number plate :wink:
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There are SOME bikes that have a flip up number plate, that when you flick a switch the number plate vanishes under the seat.
I cannot imagine why anyone would want one of those on a powerful....very fast motorbike.
because gatsos work on vehicles upto about 200mph!!!!
the problem with those number plates is if you actually get pulled the cost for perverting the course of justice is far more than the 60 quid and 3 points for speeding,the good thing about gatsos is they will only do you for speeding..get pulled and you run the risk of getting done for speeding,dodgy number plate,race can,dark visor riding without due care etc,doesnt matter how fast your bike is if you get blue lights in your mirrors
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Quote by kentswingers777
I assume that those here who are anti speeding, are ermmmmm not speeders?
They have never ever gone over the speed limit...hog wash.
We are all guilty of it at some point, be it on purpose or by accident.
All drivers at some time break the speed limit,I've done it on/in nearly every vehicle I've ever been in control of (including my bicycle, you motorbike riders have no idea what 45 m.p.h. REALLY feels like)..The thing is not all drivers whine constantly about how hard done to they are.
As far as I can see there are two ways to view speed cameras...
No.1 speed cameras are just there to raise revenue....GOOD, if more funding improves services then how the funds are raised is not an issue..if people who are breaking the law are caught and discouraged from doing it again this is just a bonus.
No. 2 speed cameras are there to discourage speeding and catch those that do...GOOD if revenue is raised into the bargain and that keeps the overall tax burden down...bargain!
However you look at it what is peoples problem with speed cameras?if they were for catching thieves or hooligans would We complain? if we're breaking the law we deserve to be caught and punished.
(not aimed at kenty though it may read that way,)
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I assume that those here who are anti speeding, are ermmmmm not speeders?
They have never ever gone over the speed limit...hog wash.
We are all guilty of it at some point, be it on purpose or by accident.
All drivers at some time break the speed limit,I've done it on/in nearly every vehicle I've ever been in control of (including my bicycle, you motorbike riders have no idea what 45 m.p.h. REALLY feels like)..The thing is not all drivers whine constantly about how hard done to they are.
As far as I can see there are two ways to view speed cameras...
No.1 speed cameras are just there to raise revenue....GOOD, if more funding improves services then how the funds are raised is not an issue..if people who are breaking the law are caught and discouraged from doing it again this is just a bonus.
No. 2 speed cameras are there to discourage speeding and catch those that do...GOOD if revenue is raised into the bargain and that keeps the overall tax burden down...bargain!
However you look at it what is peoples problem with speed cameras?if they were for catching thieves or hooligans would We complain? if we're breaking the law we deserve to be caught and punished.
(not aimed at kenty though it may read that way,)
agreed..in general i am all in favour of speed cameras,as with all things in life you weigh up the risks and base your actions on your assesment of those risks if you get caught you have only yourself to blame especially with speed cameras which are normally well signposted and highly visible,pay the fine take the points and carry on
If and this is a big IF, the revenue went towards further road safety people might be more approachable towards them but......the money raised is just like the road tax, it just gets swallowed up into the big pot.
I agree speed cameras are a good idea, but not in Swansea.
They have decided as a trial to stop using them.
The whole point is for them to be visible so when a motorist sees it...they slow down. That is good sensible logic. But some are hidden and if a driver does not see them, yes they will be flashed, but that does not stop the driver from doing the most important thing, and that is to slow down.
Cameras in the main are there for the money. All this bullshit about safety is a white elephant.
Of course on me big motorbike I only speed when I have to which is every Sunday whilst out with me mates. 
Funny though I have never been done for speeding on me bike, only once in me car...being a very sensible driver.
I agree speed cameras are a good idea, but not in Swansea.
They have decided as a trial to stop using them.
The whole point is for them to be visible so when a motorist sees it...they slow down. That is good sensible logic. But some are hidden and if a driver does not see them, yes they will be flashed, but that does not stop the driver from doing the most important thing, and that is to slow down.
Cameras in the main are there for the money. All this bullshit about safety is a white elephant.
Of course on me big motorbike I only speed when I have to
which is every Sunday whilst out with me mates. Funny though I have never been done for speeding on me bike, only once in me car...being a very sensible driver.
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Speeding? You callous bastard, death to you!
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An indication of the real attitude of the powers that be regarding speed/safety cameras.
On the MOT, your speedo is not checked to make sure that its within tolerance and giving an accurate indication of your speed. They do check your numberplate is readable so they can identify whose wallet they can raid for more money.
Just what role does a numberplate play in the roadworthyness of a vehicle?
On the MOT, your speedo is not checked to make sure that its within tolerance and giving an accurate indication of your speed. They do check your numberplate is readable so they can identify whose wallet they can raid for more money.
Just what role does a numberplate play in the roadworthyness of a vehicle?
