A good day for democracy?

12 Mar 2010

Agreed.
Professional views and personal views can be kept apart, and as the BNP isn't illegal, then they should have the right to believe and support what ever organisation they wish, provided it doesn't spill over into the workplace.

12 Mar 2010

But what about the Police and another profession I cant think of right now who have already been told they cannot be members of the BNP dunno

Should they now fight for the right to be members if they so desire :dunno:

12 Mar 2010

Quote by Suffolk-cpl
Agreed.
Professional views and personal views can be kept apart, and as the BNP isn't illegal, then they should have the right to believe and support what ever organisation they wish, provided it doesn't spill over into the workplace.

Agree with all that you have said.
Now all we need are the others who deem they cannot be members like....the Police and the Prison Service.
Yes indeed democracy has taken a step closer.
I agree with a lot they say and a lot I do not but.....until as such time they become illegal then IF you want to vote for them or be a member of them, then it should have NO bearing on what job you do.

12 Mar 2010

Quote by Steve
Should they now fight for the right to be members if they so desire

If they believe they are being short changed by the Police Federation, and believe strongly enough that they should have the right to openly support a legal political party, then yes, they should challenge it. I'm sure some human rights expert will find something to make a case on.
If on the other hand, they are content to support behind closed doors, or as is more likely the case, dont give a toss about politics anyway ( wink

)guessing that they are ALL crooks regardless which party they are in (and spending all day chasing crooks, who would want to spend their own time supporting them), then no, they shouldn't challenge it.

12 Mar 2010

Quote by Suffolk-cpl
Agreed.
Professional views and personal views can be kept apart, and as the BNP isn't illegal, then they should have the right to believe and support what ever organisation they wish, provided it doesn't spill over into the workplace.

Seconded
Plim wink

12 Mar 2010

Quote by Steve
But what about the Police and another profession I cant think of right now who have already been told they cannot be members of the BNP
Should they now fight for the right to be members if they so desire :dunno:

I'm not sure on the exact ruling here, but if it is as you state, then the trouble is it's so onesided - and in my view unfair. They allow people to wear turbans in the police instead of helmets, but not let some people in such as the BNP - it's positive discrimination against established British beliefs and any sort of positive discrimination is worst than the original sort in my view.
Plim :sad:

12 Mar 2010

Quote by Plimboy
But what about the Police and another profession I cant think of right now who have already been told they cannot be members of the BNP
Should they now fight for the right to be members if they so desire :dunno:

I'm not sure on the exact ruling here, but if it is as you state, then the trouble is it's so onesided - and in my view unfair. They allow people to wear turbans in the police instead of helmets, but not let some people in such as the BNP - it's positive discrimination against established British beliefs and any sort of positive discrimination is worst than the original sort in my view.
Plim :sad:
Out of date but still relevant

12 Mar 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
But what about the Police and another profession I cant think of right now who have already been told they cannot be members of the BNP
Should they now fight for the right to be members if they so desire :dunno:

I'm not sure on the exact ruling here, but if it is as you state, then the trouble is it's so onesided - and in my view unfair. They allow people to wear turbans in the police instead of helmets, but not let some people in such as the BNP - it's positive discrimination against established British beliefs and any sort of positive discrimination is worst than the original sort in my view.
Plim :sad:
Out of date but still relevant

No Bluefish it IS relevant.
I have said this many times on here. I think by making a Black Officers Association, it is institutionally racist in itself. But you cannot be racist if you are black right?
Black people who support this are just as racist as the BNP in my view, as they are discriminating against whites.
Until EVERYONE is treated the same by EVERYONE else, this is just as bad as the BNP saying whites only. Yes they have had to change this but what white police officer would want to join the Black Association?
It is by nature an institutionally racist organisation.

12 Mar 2010

Quote by Plimboy
But what about the Police and another profession I cant think of right now who have already been told they cannot be members of the BNP
Should they now fight for the right to be members if they so desire :dunno:

I'm not sure on the exact ruling here, but if it is as you state, then the trouble is it's so onesided - and in my view unfair. They allow people to wear turbans in the police instead of helmets, but not let some people in such as the BNP - it's positive discrimination against established British beliefs and any sort of positive discrimination is worst than the original sort in my view.
Plim :sad:
When did being a bigoted racist scumbag become an established British belief?

12 Mar 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
There is a general theory that in order to be racist you have to be coming from a position of privilidge and power,therefore minorities can be prejudiced ,not racist.
just thought i would mention it

That theroy does not sit well with me, however, I cant seem to construct a decent argument as to why.

13 Mar 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
There is a general theory that in order to be racist you have to be coming from a position of privilidge and power,therefore minorities can be prejudiced ,not racist.
just thought i would mention it

I wish you had not lol

13 Mar 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
There is a general theory that in order to be racist you have to be coming from a position of privilidge and power,therefore minorities can be prejudiced ,not racist.
just thought i would mention it

I wish you had not lol

oh go on kenty,rise to the bait,there are 2 rugby games today, i need something to do :lol:
I claim that to be racist is a prejudice based on race.
Me I hate the French , not the Celts.
I hate the American state, but have loved some Americans.
That is why I am prejudice not racist.
Oh I have many other prejudices, but they are not worth mentioning.

13 Mar 2010

Quote by
There is a general theory that in order to be racist you have to be coming from a position of privilidge and power,therefore minorities can be prejudiced ,not racist.
just thought i would mention it

I wish you had not lol

oh go on kenty,rise to the bait,there are 2 rugby games today, i need something to do :lol:
I claim that to be racist is a prejudice based on race.
Me I hate the French , not the Celts.
I hate the American state, but have loved some Americans.
That is why I am prejudice not racist.
Oh I have many other prejudices, but they are not worth mentioning.
In lefty Britain today they are the same thing.

14 Mar 2010

How is it that the Lib/Dems have their own party political Channel on TV?
aka, The BBC.
Paid for 'on demand' by us all, by law, backed up with threats and menaces if we refuse to pay a licence fee!
The left wing biased NUJ will not report any thing that promotes the bnp in a fair and even light thus preventing a fair and even playing field for Every political party.
How they will Howl when the bnp win seats in the next GE.

14 Mar 2010

Quote by Rob_hood
How is it that the Lib/Dems have their own party political Channel on TV?
aka, The BBC.
Paid for 'on demand' by us all, by law, backed up with threats and menaces if we refuse to pay a licence fee!
The left wing biased NUJ will not report any thing that promotes the bnp in a fair and even light thus preventing a fair and even playing field for Every political party.
How they will Howl when the bnp win seats in the next GE.

If you're referring to the unusual amount of covereage lately - it was their party conference this week. There's bound to be a lot.
TBH I mentally switch off when the news moves to politics so I couldn't assess what proportion of time each of the parties gets.

15 Mar 2010

BNP = legal party, so anyone should be able to join them.
Lets just say a police officer joined sinn fien, would that be legal?
As a side note, 1 of our asian female drivers told an asian woman to fold her pram, and 2 asian men called her racist!!!
TBH, i'm just fed up with all this racist bollocks..........