Am I naive but...

10 Oct 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
The labour leader in opposition has never chosen the shadow cabinet,quotas are an interesting debate tho,affermative action v positive discrimination.

There is talk in amongst Labour MP's that they should have changed the rule at the conference before the last election but Brown was so arrogantly convinced of winning that the whole idea was dropped. They now rue the day! Poor young Ed the Red is sent to the despatch box with his hands tied behind his back with silk stockings! If women MP's are so in need of places at the top table (which they are not guaranteed of keeping if they were ever to win another election) why can't they just do it on merit? Yvette Cooper polled the most votes of all the contenders - men and women and she was not in that position, in my best guess, only because her fellow MP's HAD to vote for a certain number of women. Diane Abbott didn't get there but has since been chosen by Ed the Red in a shadow junior rôle.

Quote by Kazzie
Quite what knowledge the future Baron Osborne acquired working as a conservative party researcher i dont least Johnson has had a real job.
My vote for greatest ever chancellor would go to Lloyd George,again not a qualified economist.

As did Mr Osborne... his first job was to provide data entry services to the National Health Service to record the names of people who had died in London. He also briefly worked for Selfridges. He originally intended to pursue a career in journalism, but instead got a job at Conservative Central Office and in 1994 became head of the Political Section.
Real jobs :thumbup:

10 Oct 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Have many of them actually had a PROPER job, outside of politics?
It seems that many MP,s would not know a proper job if it bit them up the arse.
Also I always thought that Labour were always against Grammar school system? Funny how many of these New Labour MP's were actually at the very Grammar schools their own party tried to abolish.
Are the Labour party still opposed to elitest schools, and if so have they actually told their MP's this, the ones that went to those elitest schools?
Fecking two faced hypocritical toss bags .
At least the Toties make no secret of the fact they are toffs, unlike the Labour peeps who think it is fine to send your child to a top Catholic school, like the one Blair used, even though you do not believe in the beliefs of the Catholic church...another hypocrite!
Stand up Nick Clegg!

Hmmmmm Has Nick crossed the floor of the House then kenty?
IMHO, even though he is agnostic, his wife who is Spanish is a Catholic and I think it is right and proper that kids should be allowed to make their own informed decision after they have had experience of the wider world, just than accept matters for what they are - often just foisted on them. I have no difficulty with the Clegg's decision to be honest - even being agnostic as I am.

10 Oct 2010

Quote by GnV
Have many of them actually had a PROPER job, outside of politics?
It seems that many MP,s would not know a proper job if it bit them up the arse.
Also I always thought that Labour were always against Grammar school system? Funny how many of these New Labour MP's were actually at the very Grammar schools their own party tried to abolish.
Are the Labour party still opposed to elitest schools, and if so have they actually told their MP's this, the ones that went to those elitest schools?
Fecking two faced hypocritical toss bags .
At least the Toties make no secret of the fact they are toffs, unlike the Labour peeps who think it is fine to send your child to a top Catholic school, like the one Blair used, even though you do not believe in the beliefs of the Catholic church...another hypocrite!
Stand up Nick Clegg!

Hmmmmm Has Nick crossed the floor of the House then kenty?
IMHO, even though he is agnostic, his wife who is Spanish is a Catholic and I think it is right and proper that kids should be allowed to make their own informed decision after they have had experience of the wider world, just than accept matters for what they are - often just foisted on them. I have no difficulty with the Clegg's decision to be honest - even being agnostic as I am.
We are both agnostic and sent all our children to a church primary school, we even told the head at the time what our beliefs were, and they were all accepted.
We felt, we wanted our children to believe what they want to believe and we shall accept their beliefs.
I don't see that as wrong at all, some might though.

10 Oct 2010

Quote by Theladyisaminx
We are both agnostic and sent all our children to a church primary school, we even told the head at the time what our beliefs were, and they were all accepted.
We felt, we wanted our children to believe what they want to believe and we shall accept their beliefs.
I don't see that as wrong at all, some might though.

Ah right.
So why not send them to a normal school then, instead of a church school?
IF you really wanted them to make their own minds up, then by sending them to a school that did not have their own agendas would have been the best course of action surely?
Lets be honest here fgs....Clegg sent his kids to a Catholic school purely because it was a fantastic school...........period.
Was your kids " church school " also a fantastic school?
See where I am going with this?
We have a Catholic school up the road from here, and it has a brilliant Offsted report. People want to send their kids to it which is fair enough, but I wish parents would be honest and say it has nothing to do with the religion merely it's academic record.

10 Oct 2010

Quote by Theladyisaminx
Isn’t the state of this countries problems partly due to the fact of the conservative government being in power from 79-97 and saying all can have, mortgages boomed credit cards become more widely used. Banks then lent more people became more selfish and wanted, expected. Which drove the banks on more, they I believe caused the starting of the bubble, I don’t let labour off either, but I do believe they had no choice but to invest in the infrastructure Schools, Hospitals that were old grumbling and falling down.
I believe we are suffering now as a result of what both parties have contributed too so I can’t feel comfortable with either of these parties, they have both failed us and caused the problems we are all facing now.
Hopefully with two parties having to work together compromise as most relationship partnerships have to learn to do I feel is the only hope we have left, that they might find an more even balance.
what are you views?

the politicians in westminster, regardless of political colour have absolutely no say in foreign or domestic policy. they are merely pawns or more like actors in the theatre that is the palace of westminster. just like the puppet obama with his "we are change" and then no change but more of the same.
it would have made absolutely no difference who had been elected, the agenda remains the same.

10 Oct 2010

Quote by gulsonroad30664
. just like the puppet obama

Oh yes Guls................I see what you mean.