Am I naive but...

7 Oct 2010

Quote by Google
Kids travelling up to 70 miles to go to school? In Northumberland we even have to provide a state boarding establishment for kids who live outside the maximum 75 minutes travel time for a conventional road journey from their pickup point - you can learn about it here -

Ermmmm excuse me, exactly how big is Northumberland as a county?? Because here is a link of all the schools listed in that county.

There seems to be a lot of schools, yet you are still telling me that kids have to travel up to 70 miles to get to school? Rubbish. Give me an example, an area where a child is 70 miles away from a school.
Oh look here is another web site detailing schools in Northumberland.

70 miles to travel to school? Are they taking a very scenic route, or what?

Quote by Google
Now, you've accused me of making stuff up - want to retract it Ken or do you want to drag this thread down into the mire again?

ME? dragging a thread down the mire?
I think some might say you do a very good job of that, all on your own Googs.

7 Oct 2010

be prepared for the mire...

7 Oct 2010

Quote by GnV
:thumbup: from me on that kenty.
I watched his speech with a lump in my throat (which is much nicer than some have to suffer in England's second city.. usually a knife in their froat or a broken beer glass or bottle) and his customary rallying call at the end of his speech was marvellous.
I also think that his decision not to do the usual "gloat" and 5 minute standing ovation was the measure of the man. He is a true statesman and I think will rank amongst Britain's Best when history is written.

What I have noticed in all the parties whether you agree with them or not, is their age there are a lot of younger members talking look at all the leaders, their are some older wiser heads too in the background, but it is also good to see younger members stepping forward at least hopefully there will be some newer and fresher ideas.
Rather than stayed and stuck in the old parties ways.
I am finding politics a little more interesting recently

7 Oct 2010

Quote by Theladyisaminx
The thing is in all this is I don't know who I despise the most, Thatcherite I am all right Jack sod everyone else types

WHY are you still blaming Thatcher fgs??
Are you doing a Jethro Tull here?

Come on she was ousted over 20 years ago now. There have been other Tory leaders and 13 years of another party in power.
Why are you still harping on about a PM who left so long ago?
BUT btw.............
Thatcher's tenure as Prime Minister was the longest since that of Lord Salisbury and the longest continuous period in office since Lord Liverpool in the early 19th century.
She was the first woman to lead a major political party in the United Kingdom, and the first of only four women to hold any of the four great offices of state.
She holds a life peerage as Baroness Thatcher, of Kesteven in the County of Lincolnshire, which entitles her to sit in the House of Lords.
Must have done something right then eh?
Sounds very much to me as if you have been a tad influenced Minxy....some people are led astray very easily ya know.

7 Oct 2010

Quote by Theladyisaminx
What I have noticed in all the parties whether you agree with them or not, is their age there are a lot of younger members talking look at all the leaders, their are some older wiser heads too in the background, but it is also good to see younger members stepping forward at least hopefully there will be some newer and fresher ideas.

They are only getting younger Minxy, simply because you are getting older.
Twenty years ago a politician of say 45 would have been oldish to you, but now fast forward 20 years, and a 45 year old politician is now not old at all.
Forward another twenty years time and you will be thinking a 50 year old politician is a young man.
Perception my dear............perception.

7 Oct 2010

Quote by GnV
(which is much nicer than some have to suffer in England's second city.. usually a knife in their froat or a broken beer glass or bottle)

Firstly can I say I live 30 minutes or so away from Birmingham....and so visit on a regular basis......It is a great city, built on great tradition. It has a great diverse mix of all nationalities, and a great respect and tolerance of others. Great strides over the last 20 years have been made in regeneration, away from the dark industrial town it once was, to now the cosmopoltion city it is today. It was one of the biggest and most swish shopping centres in the all New Bull Ring. Every designer and high street name pays highly to be there !! It has now fantastic canalside eateries and bars. It has the NEC which hosts many presitigious events and exhibitions and concerts. It has the NIA where the conferance was held, listed amost the top 10 conferance centres in the world. Birmingham is a great city....and I love to visit the city....never have I had, as you say is usual, a knife at my throat....or broken bottle in my face !!!

7 Oct 2010

Quote by kentswingers777

The thing is in all this is I don't know who I despise the most, Thatcherite I am all right Jack sod everyone else types

WHY are you still blaming Thatcher fgs??
Are you doing a Jethro Tull here?

Come on she was ousted over 20 years ago now. There have been other Tory leaders and 13 years of another party in power.
Why are you still harping on about a PM who left so long ago?
BUT btw.............
Thatcher's tenure as Prime Minister was the longest since that of Lord Salisbury and the longest continuous period in office since Lord Liverpool in the early 19th century.
She was the first woman to lead a major political party in the United Kingdom, and the first of only four women to hold any of the four great offices of state.
She holds a life peerage as Baroness Thatcher, of Kesteven in the County of Lincolnshire, which entitles her to sit in the House of Lords.
Must have done something right then eh?
Sounds very much to me as if you have been a tad influenced Minxy....some people are led astray very easily ya know.
I like the way you quoted one part of what I wrote and not all that sentence. You are so selective, I guess you didnt digest the rest of what I wrote.
I particularly loved the part where you state I have been a tad influenced, so funny as I guess you haven't been.
I just judge my beliefs on what I have witnessed and able to reflect in my own little weird mind and make my own opinions.

7 Oct 2010

Quote by Theladyisaminx
and able to reflect in my own little weird mind

:gagged:

7 Oct 2010

Quote by deancannock

(which is much nicer than some have to suffer in England's second city.. usually a knife in their froat or a broken beer glass or bottle)

Firstly can I say I live 30 minutes or so away from Birmingham....and so visit on a regular basis......It is a great city, built on great tradition. It has a great diverse mix of all nationalities, and a great respect and tolerance of others. Great strides over the last 20 years have been made in regeneration, away from the dark industrial town it once was, to now the cosmopoltion city it is today. It was one of the biggest and most swish shopping centres in the all New Bull Ring. Every designer and high street name pays highly to be there !! It has now fantastic canalside eateries and bars. It has the NEC which hosts many presitigious events and exhibitions and concerts. It has the NIA where the conferance was held, listed amost the top 10 conferance centres in the world. Birmingham is a great city....and I love to visit the city....never have I had, as you say is usual, a knife at my throat....or broken bottle in my face !!!
Nor did I say that!! But someone, somewhere in Birmingham at some stage or other has suffered that, sadly. There are many casualty hospitals in Birmingham and I'm sure their records will show that to be the case.
I too have visited Birmingham. I worked there for a number of years over 30 years ago. I remember the old canal areas before they were upgraded and the old bull ring. I was there at the time of the IRA cellar pub bombing just off the Bull Ring - a place I used to frequent and, but for other circumstances, may well have done the night of that awful tragedy.
I think I'm qualified to have made a measured comment, not a sensationalist one as you suggested.
Clearly, not everyone is as nice as you are and don't find themselves in such danger.

7 Oct 2010

Quote by kentswingers777

Kids travelling up to 70 miles to go to school? In Northumberland we even have to provide a state boarding establishment for kids who live outside the maximum 75 minutes travel time for a conventional road journey from their pickup point - you can learn about it here -

Ermmmm excuse me, exactly how big is Northumberland as a county?? Because here is a link of all the schools listed in that county.

There seems to be a lot of schools, yet you are still telling me that kids have to travel up to 70 miles to get to school? Rubbish. Give me an example, an area where a child is 70 miles away from a school.
Oh look here is another web site detailing schools in Northumberland.

70 miles to travel to school? Are they taking a very scenic route, or what?

Quote by Google
Now, you've accused me of making stuff up - want to retract it Ken or do you want to drag this thread down into the mire again?

ME? dragging a thread down the mire?
I think some might say you do a very good job of that, all on your own Googs.
Check what I said in the original quote Kenny boy. 70 mile round trip - Northumberland in about 65 miles long North south and about 35 miles wide east west. Half the population live in the densely populated south eastern corner of the county - about ten miles by seven miles. The rest are scattered around hills, dales, and market towns in some of the most isolated communities in England - which is why Northumberland is often described as th emost sparsely populated county in England.
Here's a newspaper article giving you some numbers about the catchment area of Haydon Bridge High School.
You've accused me of making stuff up. Your choice if you apologise or not.

7 Oct 2010

Nothing at all for me to say sorry about.
Ok you say a round trip of 70 miles.....35 miles each way then yes?
Right tell me an area where the nearest school is 35 miles AWAY then.
I have picked at random areas that are very isolated, yet I cannot find any place or village that is that far away from a school.
The remote villages even the schools are a fraction of the 35 miles you claim.
Now obviously I am sure there are some whose nearest school is not their desired choice, so then may make a decision to take their child to another school further AWAY....that is different.
So............can you give me say two examples of an area where the nearest schools are a 70 mile round trip please. That is the NEAREST school.

7 Oct 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
So............can you give me say two examples of an area where the nearest schools are a 70 mile round trip please. That is the NEAREST school.

Maybe he got 2 kids, one each side of the county and he lives in the north dunno

just trying to be helpful (as ever) pmsl

7 Oct 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
So............can you give me say two examples of an area where the nearest schools are a 70 mile round trip please. That is the NEAREST school.

:giggle:

:lol: :lol: wink

7 Oct 2010

70 mile round trip to get to school.
I was thinking earlier we live in Britain not Africa.
I looked at so many areas in that county and then picked the nearest school....the average was a round trip of 15 miles and that was the exception, all the other were much closer than that.

7 Oct 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
70 mile round trip to get to school.
I was thinking earlier we live in Britain not Africa.
I looked at so many areas in that county and then picked the nearest school....the average was a round trip of 15 miles and that was the exception, all the other were much closer than that.

Or the outback of Australia... Perhaps the 70 mile round trip is just to get to a decent dunny?

7 Oct 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Nothing at all for me to say sorry about.
Ok you say a round trip of 70 miles.....35 miles each way then yes?
Right tell me an area where the nearest school is 35 miles AWAY then.
I have picked at random areas that are very isolated, yet I cannot find any place or village that is that far away from a school.
The remote villages even the schools are a fraction of the 35 miles you claim.
Now obviously I am sure there are some whose nearest school is not their desired choice, so then may make a decision to take their child to another school further AWAY....that is different.
So............can you give me say two examples of an area where the nearest schools are a 70 mile round trip please. That is the NEAREST school.

Have you tried distinguishing between primary schools and high schools? Probably not.
Do some sums Kenny. If the catchment area of a school (Haydon Bridge High) is 700 square miles, what dimensions do you think that gives the catchment area? 35 miles by twenty miles perhaps? Haydon Bridge is in the Tyne Valley, at the very south of the county.
is illuminating too - according to this Bellingham Middle's catchment area is even bigger than Haydon Bridge's (though I'm not sure of that) and has 9-13 year old kids doing 20 miles each way - unlike HB Bellingham doesn't need a boarding wing, so, by deduction, the kids who board at HB must live more than 20 miles away. It's actually 31 miles from Falstone to Haydon Bridge, and somethign like 38 miles to the Scottish Border.
For kids from Alwinton it's 25 miles to Morpeth, and 23 miles to Alnwick. These are the realities of life outside the south east Kenny, but you seem to think I'm making up geography.

7 Oct 2010

Quote by awayman
For kids from Alwinton it's 25 miles to Morpeth, and 23 miles to Alnwick. These are the realities of life outside the south east Kenny, but you seem to think I'm making up geography.

Is that north of Watford Gap?

7 Oct 2010

Quote by GnV
For kids from Alwinton it's 25 miles to Morpeth, and 23 miles to Alnwick. These are the realities of life outside the south east Kenny, but you seem to think I'm making up geography.

Is that north of Watford Gap?
Oh yes....

7 Oct 2010

I had a student dentist call Morpeth over 40 years ago...
Bleeding animal he was...

7 Oct 2010

Right Away I am getting bored with this.
Give me a town...any town in Northumberland.
Then people will be able to see how far a child is away from a school in that area.
You stated kids are having to travel 70 miles round trip.
Can you show me a area where the nearest school is over 35 miles away please.
I am sure you can do that.

7 Oct 2010

Quote by awayman
Nothing at all for me to say sorry about.
Ok you say a round trip of 70 miles.....35 miles each way then yes?
Right tell me an area where the nearest school is 35 miles AWAY then.
I have picked at random areas that are very isolated, yet I cannot find any place or village that is that far away from a school.
The remote villages even the schools are a fraction of the 35 miles you claim.
Now obviously I am sure there are some whose nearest school is not their desired choice, so then may make a decision to take their child to another school further AWAY....that is different.
So............can you give me say two examples of an area where the nearest schools are a 70 mile round trip please. That is the NEAREST school.

Have you tried distinguishing between primary schools and high schools? Probably not.
Do some sums Kenny. If the catchment area of a school (Haydon Bridge High) is 700 square miles, what dimensions do you think that gives the catchment area? 35 miles by twenty miles perhaps? Haydon Bridge is in the Tyne Valley, at the very south of the county.
is illuminating too - according to this Bellingham Middle's catchment area is even bigger than Haydon Bridge's (though I'm not sure of that) and has 9-13 year old kids doing 20 miles each way - unlike HB Bellingham doesn't need a boarding wing, so, by deduction, the kids who board at HB must live more than 20 miles away. It's actually 31 miles from Falstone to Haydon Bridge, and somethign like 38 miles to the Scottish Border.
For kids from Alwinton it's 25 miles to Morpeth, and 23 miles to Alnwick. These are the realities of life outside the south east Kenny, but you seem to think I'm making up geography.
I would also have to add, that just because you may be in a catchment area for a school does not mean that you are guaranteed a place, you could find your self having to travel further afield to a neighbouring school

7 Oct 2010

will site help?

7 Oct 2010

Quote by awayman
For kids from Alwinton it's 25 miles to Morpeth, and 23 miles to Alnwick. These are the realities of life outside the south east Kenny, but you seem to think I'm making up geography.

Is that north of Watford Gap?
Oh yes....
By a fair margin?

7 Oct 2010

Quote by GnV
For kids from Alwinton it's 25 miles to Morpeth, and 23 miles to Alnwick. These are the realities of life outside the south east Kenny, but you seem to think I'm making up geography.

Is that north of Watford Gap?
Oh yes....
By a fair margin?
Oooh, can I play, I like guessing games lol

8 Oct 2010

Quote by GnV
will this site help?

Kenny will accuse them of making up geography

8 Oct 2010

Quote by awayman
will this site help?

Kenny will accuse them of making up geography
pmsl

8 Oct 2010

Quote by awayman
will this site help?

Kenny will accuse them of making up geography
rotflmao

Are you saying he could be cynical or maybe be Delusional
bolt

10 Oct 2010

After so many years of Brown being Chancellor, and taking us almost to ruination....does anyone actually believe a word that this muppet says?

I would not trust him to put petrol in my car. Read his article and have you heard all this clap trap shite before from a Labour Chancellor?
Miss Harmen as deputy.....now that is scary shit, but Johnsons article in the paper today makes my blood curl, after his party and his Chancellor ruined this country.
Do these people actually believe the shit they write???
Or is being delusional part and parcel, of being a Labour supporter??
God help us all if this party get back into power in the next 20 years.

10 Oct 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
After so many years of Brown being Chancellor, and taking us almost to ruination....does anyone actually believe a word that this muppet says?

I would not trust him to put petrol in my car. Read his article and have you heard all this clap trap shite before from a Labour Chancellor?
Miss Harmen as deputy.....now that is scary shit, but Johnsons article in the paper today makes my blood curl, after his party and his Chancellor ruined this country.
Do these people actually believe the shit they write???
Or is being delusional part and parcel, of being a Labour supporter??
God help us all if this party get back into power in the next 20 years.

I heard on TV that, on appointment as shadow Chancellor, Mr Johnson suggested that he might need to read up a bit on economics.... :shock::shock:
His only experience on economics so far, prior to becoming an MP, was pushing electricity bills through peoples door when he was a postie...
The Political pundits have been saying that the Labour front bench is a bit lightweight - another throwback from earlier times before they came into Government. They have 4 years in which to make an impression. Johnson is probably the hardest hitter and, as the oldest, the only one credible enough to take on Osborne. It is not thought though that this front bench will survive the 2 year round till it all happens again.
And what about discrimination? Requiring Labour MP's to vote for a set number of females for the shadow cabinet rather than allow the leader to make his own choice? Bit like Obama as a Democrat but with the Senate and the HoR both with Republican majorities. No teeth! This has certainly weakened Labour - to the benefit of the ConDem Alliance of course.

10 Oct 2010

Have many of them actually had a PROPER job, outside of politics?
It seems that many MP,s would not know a proper job if it bit them up the arse.
Also I always thought that Labour were always against Grammar school system? Funny how many of these New Labour MP's were actually at the very Grammar schools their own party tried to abolish.
Are the Labour party still opposed to elitest schools, and if so have they actually told their MP's this, the ones that went to those elitest schools?
Fecking two faced hypocritical toss bags .
At least the Toties make no secret of the fact they are toffs, unlike the Labour peeps who think it is fine to send your child to a top Catholic school, like the one Blair used, even though you do not believe in the beliefs of the Catholic church...another hypocrite!
Stand up Nick Clegg!